Congress sends Obama $1.1 trillion spending bill

AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — Congress cleared a $1.1 trillion spending bill for President Barack Obama's signature late Saturday night after a day of Senate intrigue capped by a failed, largely symbolic Republican challenge to the administration's new immigration policy.

The vote was 56-40 in favor of the measure, which funds nearly the entire government through the Sept. 30 end of the fiscal year. It also charts a new course for selected shaky pension plans covering more than 1 million retirees, including the possibility of benefit cuts.

Well, there goes the little bit of economic recovery we had.

An exception to full funding......

While the legislation assures funding for nearly the entire government until next fall, it made an exception of the Department of Homeland Security. Money for the agency will run out on Feb. 27, when Republicans intend to try and force the president to roll back an immigration policy that removes the threat of deportation from millions of immigrants living in the United States illegally.

Hmmm.

Where the hell is this trillion coming from?



And why the hell is Homeland Security the sacrifice?
That sounds a little risky.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
Where the hell is this trillion coming from?



And why the hell is Homeland Security the sacrifice?
That sounds a little risky.

The money comes from tax collection.

DHS is a bargaining chip hostage.

a reply to: xuenchen

Ok yeah, a trillion is about right.
By my maths, say 5000 dollars a year in tax per person, times 225m people that is about right.



That's strange about the DHS though.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Where the hell is this trillion coming from?

The same place all our money comes from the Federal Reserve.

And why the hell is Homeland Security the sacrifice?

To make it easier for America to be attacked that way they can cry it was Obama's fault. I may not like that agency but it is stupid to cut money for security here at home.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

The U.S. Treasury keeps balance sheets every day.

Sometimes hard to decipher, but they are fairly accurate.

Treasury Balance Sheets

Since Oct 1st (the beginning of the 2015 fiscal year), they have spent over $2 trillion.

a reply to: buster2010

The same place all our money comes from the Federal Reserve.

That sounds more likely than just taxes to be honest.

To make it easier for America to be attacked that way they can cry it was Obama's fault. I may not like that agency but it is stupid to cut money for security here at home.

In a time where the media is perpetuating a race war and holy war, it's a bit of a dangerous tactic to be miserly with the Department that's in charge of stopping such bullsh*t from occuring.

a reply to: xuenchen

That is quite difficult to understand due to the format of the text file.

The list mostly made sense... healthcare, energy, education etc..

But what's "Federal Reserve Earnings"?...
I'd have thought it would be a non-profit organisation.


Is it ok for them to skim off the top?

It was seperate from Fed employee payments.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Federal Reserve "Earnings" go into the U.S. Treasury.

a reply to: xuenchen

Thanks for explaining.

They don't teach us this stuff in London

Here's what actual Socialists have to say about the spending bill.

World Socialist Website

In other words, the bill makes it possible for the administration to continue waging war around the world and building up the apparatus for a police state at home.

Attached to the funding bill are hundreds of policy measures, many of them added at the last minute with no public discussion and, in many cases, without most congressmen or senators even being aware of what was being proposed before they rubber-stamped the bill. These include, most notoriously, the repeal of a major section of the Dodd-Frank legislation that sought to place some restrictions on the speculative activities of the banks following the 2008 financial crash.

The article also gives a breakdown of the 'nonmilitary spending' which is still majorly defense spending then goes into one bit of praise... the elimination of the Race to the Top program:

used for six years to promote private charter schools and attacks on teachers in public schools. Republicans attacked the program as an effort to impose federal standards in education.

Much like the geniuses attacking Obama for Obamacare which is a corporate give away. All these years attacking his education plan they were attacking their own agenda, corporatizing public education.

Stupid does do some good once in a while after all huh?

so i guess everyone wants too skip past the "War with Russia/Sanctions&UkrainGovt. support bill. ????

a reply to: BobAthome

Will President Obama be forced too sign the Bill that Leads too War with Russia,, or comanly known as ww3.

Stay tuned.

a reply to: BobAthome

Obama isn't 'forced' to sign anything. He not only said he'd sign the bill, he actively worked with Boehner to get the required votes to pass the bill in Congress. This gives him funding for eight months into what could have been a complete Republican controlled budget following this 'lame duck' Congress.

This way Obama gets the funding to continue his personal agenda.

DHS is viewed as Obama's tool to enforce his agenda internally.

The increase in corporate donations have two explanations from the Republicans. Rhino/Republican Establishment say it's to allow private funding for Political National conventions- federal funding having been stopped?- the Tea party side says it's to overwhelm the Tea party via Corporate donations as their funding is more from individual contributions with little Corporate support.

At a guess, this move is the compromise between the two parties. The Dems get most of the monies they want. The Republicans avoid being blamed for a shutdown and make their points forcing Obama vetos via regular bills for the next two years.

It all adds up to little to no change...surprise, surprise.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

That sounds more likely than just taxes to be honest.

The taxes our government collects goes straight to the Fed Reserve. Then they turn around and loan it back to us with interest.

In a time where the media is perpetuating a race war and holy war, it's a bit of a dangerous tactic to be miserly with the Department that's in charge of stopping such bullsh*t from occuring.

It's kind of hard to have a police state when everything is peaceful so the media is just doing their job. Not to mention the more hate they spread the more money they make.

originally posted by: Kali74
AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — Congress cleared a $1.1 trillion spending bill for President Barack Obama's signature late Saturday night after a day of Senate intrigue capped by a failed, largely symbolic Republican challenge to the administration's new immigration policy.

The vote was 56-40 in favor of the measure, which funds nearly the entire government through the Sept. 30 end of the fiscal year. It also charts a new course for selected shaky pension plans covering more than 1 million retirees, including the possibility of benefit cuts.

Well, there goes the little bit of economic recovery we had.

here's some more tidbits:
www.washingtonpost.com... 0-7ef6-11e4-9f38-95a187e4c1f7_story.html

how about cuts to the EPA?....we need fewer watchdogs for businesses, resulting in more pollution?
how about cuts to the IRS?...we need less auditing, leading to less tax collection?

the citizens of this country are now being ruled by business, why even have representatives?

a reply to: jimmyx

why even have representatives?

I'm worried that the answer to that question might be that not enough people understand how things are supposed to work.

The reason this passed was because it was going to be the "best deal" the current potus was going to get.

As of next year when the republicans control the majorities in both houses. The Potus was really screwed.

That's why the potus called his party,and told them to pass it.

Politics is like chess people. They are always several moves ahead.

Are YOU KIDDING ME ?

ALL of the tax money collected DOES NOT go to federal reserve.

IT's gone the minute they get it.

From defense spending to agri subsidies to the big three,and everything else in between like foreign aid.

The federal reserve generates 'income' from them evil bankers charging them interest when we take out loans etc.

Then more 'income' with treasury 'notes'.

People need to stop with the misnomer 'our money'.

IT's the Feds money.