Cia Interrogation Report, Another Obama Political Move!

what they diverting the public from by releasing this?

a reply to: neo96

Some people cry over those same things you posted, the knowledge of them just isn't as widely known, those experiments come from a different time in our history. Torture while happening some in the past has really only been a hotbutton issue since 9/11 when we legalized it.

Many people don't even realize that MKULTRA actually happened, they think it's just some weird conspiracy theory without a true basis in fact.

It doesn't matter how this will be reported in the MSM. It will disappear under a wash of Christmas Shopping commercials and "news" stories.

Not that it matters. Sorry to be cynical, but torture is known to happen and it is known not to work. Too bad that doesn't mean it will stop...because it wont.

a reply to: Leonidas

The only people saying it 'doesn't work are politicians, and their pundits.

To repeat if it didn't work mankind would not have used it since he began calling himself 'civilized'.

originally posted by: haven123
what they diverting the public from by releasing this?

Jonathan Gruber testified today.

Well, at least he sat there and used one buzzword over and over.

Conjecture

originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: Leonidas
Why can't people stay on point?

Predictably the conversation devolves into partisan political fear-mongering unrelated topics.

Yo the only reason that report was release was because PARTISAN political fear mongering.

So there we have it: A vote FOR partisan fear-mongering. Gee, I wonder why things don't get better...

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Leonidas

The only people saying it 'doesn't work are politicians, and their pundits.

To repeat if it didn't work mankind would not have used it since he began calling himself 'civilized'.

It doesnt work. Never has. You watch too many movies.

originally posted by: haven123
what they diverting the public from by releasing this?

It's just more rebuttal ammo for:

Official Obama Administration Scandals List!

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
I love threads like this. It's like free giggles all around.

Something happened? It's OBAMA and his dirty MUSLIM TERRORIST friends trying to do something underhanded and unethical!

It's a dirty Barack HUSSEIN Obama tactic to divert attention! It's the failed Demo senate's last thumb in the eye of us poor, demonized, peace loving republicans!

Please do continue, I've got my popcorn at the ready and my laughin' jammies on.

Let's no forget Obama has soiled hands to. JSOC and the Obama Kill List killed many including children, with no trial or due process. Further some of those people where US Citizens whose 5th amendment rights where trampled upon. How logical person can defend Obama considering all his lies is beyond me

a reply to: neo96



The reason torture is so evil is because it can inflict significant psychological damage to an entire nation, and destroy its will to live. It's hard to explain, but as a species, we put far more emphasis on certain concepts such as slavery, rape and the genitals than genocide(probably because you can always repopulate), even if it occurred in the past. Honestly, at this point, I don't even care if we get nuked. In fact, I've told our people to stop having kids altogether, because this world is just getting extremely inhumane. This is not fun, and we've decided to exit this game altogether.

In the end, if you bomb an entire country or even use nuclear weapons, then even if you kill a lot of innocents, it will actually be far less offensive than torturing just a few individuals(once the country is recovered and can look at the past). See, we weren't offended by the Napalms and Agent Orange(since we overcame it), but after reading Nick Turse's book and what the CIA did, urgh...Torture is the ultimate war crime, which is why it must be outlawed, and the punishment extremely severe. If you torture, then it's pretty much the same as hacking a nuclear plant, use WMD, put poison in the water, etc. it's the ultimate form of blackmailing. I mean, why even pretend that you are trying to save innocents and fight for the good side, if you're going to destroy their will to live? Why not just nuke the entire world and get it over with?

To me, until we stop this group think and associate a few actions of an individual to an entire nation, in the name of nationalism, and treat each individual as human beings, we are truly no better than animals. To me, it's time for everyone to become mix race, because this is just pure evil. As far as a religion like Islam, well, in the end, it's just a belief. Remember that they weren't born this way, and are just humans like us, somehow we've just gotta find a way to convince them that this belief is wrong. Hopefully, in the future, we will be able to track our ancestry back to the Middle East, or find out that this is a simulation, or that there is a Creator, or that UFOs exist, because this is simply...unacceptable.

a reply to: sirlancelot

Doesn't everything piss off the terrorists? I'm glad the report is released! It's about time we saw some transparency from an administration that boasted about being the most transparent admin ever.

Everyone wants the govt to be transparent until they are. Geez.

Does anyone actually believe anything that comes out of this administration? Even the media is getting sick of his constant lies and arrogance. What about Obama killing innocents with his drone assassinations? Lots of innocent civilian collateral damage their....and Bush had nothing to do with Obama's cold-blooded drone murders---where's the liberal outcry?

So is Obama closing down the gulag at Guantanamo like he promised during his election campaign?, no?, oh right. Yeah im sure he really cares deep down inside lol.

Right on cue. This Cia Report was released today as a deflection. Look at the trash NBC news focused on tonight.

Source

MSM for the most part is such a joke!

a reply to: neo96

Your right. Let's go for full transparency. Let's let all out there for the world to see.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: Patriotsrevenge

Whether the CIA killed Kennedy is up for debate...
At least in some circles.


I don't believe so however.


I think if the CIA were that powerful they would control the government and wouldn't give a # what people think.

However I don't see them as they are portrayed.

A good pair of sides to a still spinning coin Charlie. After this
I'll star you too.

From my end of it, and listening to Colonel Prouty; any agency--
covert or not that can assassinate a President on live TV is not
only in control of the present situation, but capable by now of
a lot more than playing cartoons from New York.

I won't get started on CGI ghosting, missing gigantic chunks of
titanium at impact zones (that used to be Rolls or GE turbofans)
or anything else. "Portrayed" is exactly spot on.. kudos, I mean it.
All i personally know for sure is that when somebody on mike, and
off-camera is telling me what I'm seeing in the file tape:
it's called a psyop. Every Time.

And nobody will see anything on TV or maybe here that wasn't
released by the people that own all the Big Clubs.. Shop included.

No Wonder Impeachment Was “Off the Table”: Democrats Approved Mass Surveillance and Torture … and the Subsequent Cover-Up

this was a SENATE report, not Obama's !!!.......jesus, can't you people on the right even get that part correct?......the administration didn't order it, finance it, or compile it.....what's wrong with you people?

they are releasing it now, because they know that republicans would never let this see the light of day, once they take over in January...the republicans want to cover up as much as possible about presidents Cheney and Bush ordering the torture even though it's illegal.

www.washingtonsblog.com...

And both Democrats and Republicans approved torture. As we noted in 2009:

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy told the New York Times:

The temptation to abuse powers in a crisis is bipartisan and the [proposed truth] commission’s review should include the role of Democrats in Congress in approving the Bush policies.

As I have previously written, Nancy Pelosi was secretly briefed on torture many, many years ago, and yet did nothing to stop those unlawful programs. Indeed, she egged the torturers on. Pelosi was also secretly tipped off about warrantless spying on Americans. And Pelosi hid from the 9/11 Commission and the American people the fact that the interrogations of 9/11 suspects were videotaped, and that the alleged “confessions” of those held at Gitmo were wholly unreliable. She could have stopped the whole farce cold — but chose to go along with it.

Leading democrats Harman, Rockefeller and others in Congress were also war criminals, accessories after the fact, and co-conspirators.