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originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: FearYourMind
But....isn't it inevitable then? If things are so vast and wide reaching as you say, we'd never be able to elect a third party president anyway. And if somehow we managed to do so....how much do you think that president would be able to do?
originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
a reply to: Shamrock6
If a third-party president ever came to office in the United States, I'm 100% certain that some "unforseen tragedy" will result in his/her untimely death.
originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Alternatively, he could probably be bought. Money and Power is always a tempting combination.
originally posted by: Shamrock6
But....isn't it inevitable then? If things are so vast and wide reaching as you say, we'd never be able to elect a third party president anyway. And if somehow we managed to do so....how much do you think that president would be able to do?
"Governments do not govern, but merely control the machinery of government, being themselves controlled by the hidden hand." ~ Benjamin Disraeli; Prime Minister of England
originally posted by: Ex_MislTech
The whole game is rigged end to end, top to bottom. As Dr. Paul Craig Roberts said " It isn't getting fixed" Our politicians don't run any of this, its the round table groups.
It is quite sad that so many still believe in the scam known as voting. What is it going to take for people to realize that it is rigged and predetermined whether it is politicians up for office or major laws and legislation on the ballot. Actual real voting did exist at one time but those days are long gone before any of us were born. Real presidents don't exist anymore, only puppets (Kennedy was a prime example of why there are none anymore).
It is a mere illusion to make us slaves believe we have choice and that we are free to determine our future and way of life. It keeps us from getting angry by realizing how screwed up the world really is and overthrowing the powers that be. It keeps the two sides of the populous in both political parties pointing fingers blaming each other instead of the real culprits. While being indoctrinated by the major cable news channels that represent the two political parties fueling your disgust and animosity for those who vote for the other party.
Both opposing beliefs of the 2 party system serve the same beast in playing their roles of polar opposites. These type of people only sided with the truth movement because they hate Obama and for good reason however if you think that getting rid of Obama and congress etc is the answer then you are clueless and don't even know what the problem really is which means you are not capable of knowing the solution.
Haven't you learned that every few years you keep repeating the same madness and expecting positive results when things just keep declining more and more while what little freedoms you have left are being stripped away each passing year.
The scam known as voting
originally posted by: SenterSun
Deposing tyrants is another matter, but must be done through prayer.
originally posted by: EnochWasRight
When a nation turns on its last vestiges of faith, it is doomed to fall by the tyranny it creates. The US is on the path to this tyranny.
originally posted by: EnochWasRight
God has an answer to the tyranny around us. That answer is to turn to the one that can help.
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
I don't recall a corrupt government ever being overthrown by prayer, but your other points are valid.
"So when the angel of the United States of America came and stood before me, …I tremble and quake every time I see an angel of a nation, he told me, “An awesome judgment is going to come upon America very soon.” An awesome judgment. When he spoke, I felt a fear, a Godly fear running through my bones and my spirit. This is not a judgment that would destroy the entire nation, but something quite similar to what happened with the twin towers."
"My dear brothers and sisters, I tell you one more truth today. As the chief prince angel of the United States of America stood before me, he said, “Like the angels that went out to spy out Sodom and Gomorrah, a host of angels are walking the length and breadth of your country, spying out the land in a similar manner to how the two angels did (at Sodom).”
"I was in the nation of Indonesia... On the first day that I was in that nation, the chief prince angel over Indonesia entered into my room, and he said, “Whatever has happened in this nation has been decreed and ordered by the watchers in Heaven. They decreed and they said, let there be a change.” And overnight, the dictator of thirty-two years was overthrown. Overnight -- it did not happen over a long period of time. Overnight, he was overthrown -- decreed by the Watchers...." "You (America) are in that stage (or situation) right now, and your only appeal is to the Heavenly Father. The final pardon is in His hands."
www.telusplanet.net...
Suharto of Indonesia, whose 32-year dictatorship was one of the most brutal and corrupt of the 20th century, died Sunday in Jakarta. He was 86.
Suharto Dies at 86; Indonesian Dictator Brought Order and Bloodshed
originally posted by: FearYourMind
originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: FearYourMind
But....isn't it inevitable then? If things are so vast and wide reaching as you say, we'd never be able to elect a third party president anyway. And if somehow we managed to do so....how much do you think that president would be able to do?
We the people possess the greatest power. One man or woman will never be able to change anything. The people are who the elites fear the most and once we wake up to the corruption and suppression we are under, maybe we'll do something about it. It might take a new type of revolution and we would have to tear it all down and start from scratch again. That's the only way I see anything changing. Otherwise the war machine will keep on and on.