Chemtrail pushers/believers: you should be ashamed of yourselves

originally posted by: Char-Lee

originally posted by: howmuch4another
So sinister that if it existed the lid would have been totally blown off by now by either whistleblowers or concerned citizens doing exactly what the OP suggests.

That is not even a reasonable statement knowing what we do of the world and how it has always worked! In that case how did all those children continue to be molested in Britain in everyones face? This is a tiny little sample of how the real world works. BIG things are going on around us and we are nothing but a pasture full of fools!

police forces across the UK. It described the alleged abuse as being "on an unprecedented scale", and the number of potential victims as "staggering"

en.wikipedia.org...

No it's completely reasonable. Mass spraying of poison on the general population,including themselves and their families takes a complete leap in critical thinking if not lapse. What air do the people, making,loading,transporting,servicing,storing,spraying this stuff breathe and where do I get some of THAT air.? I don't know any real facts about the case you reference and I'm sad it involves children but for it to be the same the parents would have to be abused in addition to willingly and knowingly be the ones pimping their children into victimhood. Instead of some morally bankrupt corrupted adults in the entertainment business. Maybe that's the case I don't know.

a reply to: network dude

Why do you think that's the base this is happening out of, and do you think that's the only base, for the entire planet?

Kristen Meghan would be my guess...

a reply to: AgentShillington

How does one become a "9/11 Expert"?

What are the qualifications?

Believe the government did it as a false flag, and as for qualifications all you have to do is stay at a Holiday Inn Express.

originally posted by: AgentShillington
a reply to: Char-Lee

How does one become a "9/11 Expert"?

What are the qualifications?

If you can't figure out how someone becomes an "expert" at a subject I can't help you.It is like a Duh... sort of thing.

adjective
1.
having or involving authoritative knowledge.

Thought I'd post some personal pictures I've been taking of "Contrails" in Socal.
















I've been seeing quite a few Moon "contrails" also, but it's harder to get quality phone pictures of them.

originally posted by: Char-Lee

originally posted by: AgentShillington
a reply to: Char-Lee

How does one become a "9/11 Expert"?

What are the qualifications?

If you can't figure out how someone becomes an "expert" at a subject I can't help you.It is like a Duh... sort of thing.

adjective
1.
having or involving authoritative knowledge.

No, you misunderstood me. I understand how people become experts. Generally things like this take years of dedicated training, mastery of your discipline, with workable knowledge.

I asked specifically how someone becomes a 9/11 expert.

If you don't have an answer, that's okay. I don't actually expect one that I will be able to understand.

Here's a video I took of a hazy rainbow around the sun on a clear blue cloudless day in June 2013 in El Dorado County, California. West of Tahoe, East of Sacramento:

I think the argument that it couldn't be kept secret is a red herring. I don't have the energy to expand on this now, as it is bed time, but would be happy to when i have more time. Thanks for the great and thought provoking thread OP!

a reply to: ZzurvanN

I hope you do feel able to come back and expand on that thought about secrecy. Personally, I find it impossible to believe that the entire supply chain and operational set up required to spray chemtrails globally could be kept completely secret and untraceable for 20 years and that, even if it could, the result of such an operation could only remain undetected by the regular air quality tests done daily all over the planet if it left no trace and had no effect, then what would be the point?

David keith on geo engeneering.

theres no reason to try to debunk this anymore, its being done. its not a secret. the UN has recognized it, Russia has recognized it, we know how and why it is being done and by whom it is being done. david keith is as far as you gotta look.

What is actually being debated here?
That it can be done or it is being done?
I believe the former is yes and the latter is probably no.

To spray something from a plane can be done let's be honest here, with some of the technology we have
to think something simple like this can't be done is irrational.

To say every major airliner is trying to poison the oxygen or other things is also probably irrational.

originally posted by: ZzurvanN
Here's a video I took of a hazy rainbow around the sun on a clear blue cloudless day in June 2013 in El Dorado County, California. West of Tahoe, East of Sacramento:

I've seen that happen up here in Seattle, WA. We were playing softball on an incredibly hot day. Everyone couldn't stop talking about it, it looked weird. I vaguely hinted "chemtrails", full of sarcasm, but all I got were weird looks like I was crazy. Some people just don't get my sarcasm.

Anyways... my 2 cent, IF it's real/true, I always just suspected it to have something to do with HAARP.

originally posted by: Taggart
What is actually being debated here?
That it can be done or it is being done?

The biggest problem is understanding and outright lies. Look at the post above yours. I believe that is a simple case of not understanding. Nowhere in that video, or any other video, does David Keith say they ARE doing any of this. It's all proposed ideas. They have been discussing this for a while.

A few things like reforestation, and painting all the roofs white in an area have been tried, but those are very tame ideas that will only give localized results. Then there was they guy who illegally dumped iron into the ocean.

This group wants to believe the worst so badly, that they let people mislead them, lie to them, and even take their money while doing so, just to say they are "in the know". And they aren't.

Sure it could be done. Sure they are talking about what affects this might have, and if they should try doing it. But so far, all the information presented says they are not doing it. That is not to say we shouldn't be looking and talking about it. Just not be so damned gullible.

a reply to: 3danimator2014

You want fries with that?

They have been doing it for a long time. Between 1953 and 1964 top secret trials were carried out using a chemical concoction of zinc cadmium sulphide to simulate how a cloud would disperse biological agents. This was an experiment to see how Biological Warfare in the Cold War could affect the population of the UK. These trials were carried out in the Norfolk and Bedfordshire area on South East England. The unsuspecting population was sprayed covertly with the poisonous compound at least 76 times.

The BBC did a report on it and produced a documentary and down played the affects on the people.

In actual fact over the course of years after the spray trials the Cancer rates quadrupled in these counties. Funny that isn't it.

The Ministry of Defence has consistently said that there was no significant health hazard as a result of the experiments.

Arial Spraying 1963

Then we have this:

The Dorset Biological Warfare Experiments 1963 - 1975

Which probably means BBC is speaking a load of Bullsh*t............As usual!

Great thread.

The average chemtrail believer is too stoned to do anything that doesn't involve the internet and their chair.

Just the fact people think aviation fuel is tampered with is great. Erm nobody heard of quality controls/audits... love chemtrail delivers.

Woah dude man heavy

a reply to: Eunuchorn

I've been seeing quite a few Moon "contrails" also, but it's harder to get quality phone pictures of them.

Run for the bunker they know, you know they are spraying to block out the moon...Oh the humanity.

Nice pics btw...

a reply to: and14263

The average chemtrail believer is too stoned

Well they say the chemtrails give it a better flavor and makes it more potent.

So you could be on to something.

a reply to: Deveron

The unsuspecting population was sprayed covertly with the poisonous compound at least 76 times.

About those done in the US...

www.nytimes.com...

In actual fact over the course of years after the spray trials the Cancer rates quadrupled in these counties. Funny that isn't it.

Have a source for these facts?