Target Australia pulls GTA V from the shelves due to ignorant PC whining....

So first it was Woolworths here pulling a "if you don't love it, leave" shirt from their shelves due to some whiny little turd posting on social media about how the slogan is racist, and offensive to Muslims. Enough ill-informed, whiny little voices got behind a cause they knew nothing about, disguised as nothing more than having a shot at big retailers, and of course they caved, and removed it from show. A three second look showed that most people here didn't think it was racist, or even offensive. Just a simple truth. If you aren't happy here, and are content to cause our society problems, then leaving is probably your best option. (Don't get me started on Halal in this country.....)

Now Target Australia, after claims by the PC groups (aka the loudest, ill-informed bunch of whiny little scumbags this country has to offer) that GTA V promotes violence against women, has elected to pull the game from it's shelves.

I often wonder if the "yeah" crowd has ever even seen the game, or played it. Or perhaps looked on the label and gone "Oh, look at that. It's R18+. My 14 year old Johnny should probably not own or play that, because I'm a responsible parent."

Yes, that means that if you are under 18 years of age, it is illegal for you to buy it or even play it. No less illegal than cigarettes, alcohol, or any other 18+ movie on the shelf. But to hide behind the excuse that it promotes violence against women?

C'mon. Seriously. I have played the games from the original way back in the late 90s. So have many of my friends. Do I get off the game and think to myself, "right, I'm gonna go king hit some poor woman on the street, shoot a few cops and steal a car." Of course not. Since games began, there has been cries of how it warps young minds, turns men in misogynistic wife beaters, gun toting loonies and the typical scum of the earth that will either wind up in a shoot-out with the cops, in jail or dead.

So here's a tip for anyone who thinks their little 14 year old Johnny is going to suit up as Trevor, Michael or Franklin and go on some real world course of mayhem or go out and beat his girlfriend to a pulp.

Monitor what your kids do. What they play, what they see online. Be open and honest with them that the games they play are just that - games. That real world actions have real world consequences. Teach them to respect others, men and women included, and that violence, whether it be against either sex is DEAD WRONG. I know, some real pioneering stuff there huh?

And sorry to say, but if you let your underage kid play a game like GTA V, then you are part of the problem. My daughter is almost 14, and I WILL NOT either play the game in her presence or allow her to play it. When she's 18? Being an adult, she can then make her own informed decisions, with my help and guidance, should she so desire it.

But for god's sake, jumping on the bandwagon because you know someone who knew a guy who played GTA V and was found out later to have beaten his wife, and using that justification to tar every single man and upcoming man with the same brush, then using that ignorance and the screaming voices of your 1000 other ignorant-minded friends to push your idiotic agenda, is really just the absolute ceiling of ignorance and stupidity.

And Target? You are just as much to blame for allowing the ignorant masses to once again take the "we're too lazy, so someone else can decide for us" way out of the problem.

It's called parenting 101 people. Try it for yourself. You'd be amazed at the results.

a reply to: 74Templar

So first it was Woolworths here pulling a "if you don't love it, leave" shirt

Damn. I thought that was a shirt commenting on modern marriages. It's not?

I wonder if I can try the web for one.

Could not agree more.

The PC crowd are a pox on our society.

And so are the weak bastards that cater to them.

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You got me excited for a moment that somehow they had gotten the PC version of GTAV! Almost jumped in the car! Seems though I had the wrong PC Master Race, the other PC Master Race is a stupid recipe for ignorant victimisation and a very dull populous.

Stupid decision by Target, but what else is knew - Surely they wrung this story out to death when the game came out the first time around? *sigh*

Sounds like some Anita Sarkeesian BS!

Violence in video games does not make people more likely to be violent in the world outside video games! Let alone toward women.

I was just listening to one of the youtube channels i am subscribed to talk about it

www.youtube.com...

This is all sorts of stupid.
too much ground is being given to a group of bitter see you next Tuesdays that have no interest in the feminist movement or equality, they just want to suck the joy out of life and make people as miserable as they are.
and it's makes me so angry when people bow their empty heads, (like when they banned the breaking bad toys from toys 'r us) to their stupid demands.

this has NOTHING to do with the feminist movement, or with protecting children or baby seals.
And the fact that people even take these idiots seriously is beyond me.

Why do you seemingly care so much about this? It's not like you can't go elsewhere and buy it if you want to play it.

You and others should be more concerned about Target and it's links to child labor...

Video games aren't a huge profit maker for Target in Australia. They mostly throw these things in with electronics, books, games, dvds, and a pile of other things (stats wise). Their prices are often not competitive in this area, they don't stock with confidence, and almost every single one of their competitors out do them in even the tiniest areas such as return policy and staff training.

Regardless of how persons feel about the content of this game, this is very likely a cynical low risk move from a store chain that doesn't cater to gaming demographics in the first place. I don't buy many video games and even I know this.

Lol, you're title is a bit misleading OP. I thought you meant they weren't going to sell the game due to PC players whining about the January release date. But yeah, this whole politically correct crap nowadays is so stupid. Everyone seems to be so easily offended and make a big deal out of nothing.

This is what happens in a free market. Instead of cry about it, you should embrace it. Imagine if all manufacturers of products and services had to be 100% transparent, disclose all ingredients in their products, and people could make the decision whether or not to buy them.. Wouldn't that be great?

Don't whine that people are exercising their freedoms - particularly against something so meaningless as a video game.

I do believe video games enforce ideas for people that are already predisposed to those types of behavior. I also think it's just as prudent to remove an adult themed game from store shelves as it is to choose not to sell pornography.

Freedom means giving and taking, not just taking. Stop crying about other people's freedoms to express themselves, and stop crying when people have different opinions than you.

a reply to: 74Templar

Im more shocked that woolworths still exists. We had one in boston many many years ago...cant wait for the pc version!!!!!

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

I agree with you for the most part, bit a game like GTAV, placed into the hands of someone who is let's say less than stable, could make them more pron to act out. I am just saying.

I have not played the game, but will in a few months. Right now I am far to busy playing Wii U on my down time.

Wii U is the best system out there right now for 1st party games, and Bayonetta 2 which is 18+ has been bashed for being too sexist, and racy, which is kind of funny for a Nintendo game, but hey its M for MATURE. AMAZING game too.

originally posted by: TinkerHaus
This is what happens in a free market. Instead of cry about it, you should embrace it. Imagine if all manufacturers of products and services had to be 100% transparent, disclose all ingredients in their products, and people could make the decision whether or not to buy them.. Wouldn't that be great?

Don't whine that people are exercising their freedoms - particularly against something so meaningless as a video game.

I do believe video games enforce ideas for people that are already predisposed to those types of behavior. I also think it's just as prudent to remove an adult themed game from store shelves as it is to choose not to sell pornography.

Freedom means giving and taking, not just taking. Stop crying about other people's freedoms to express themselves, and stop crying when people have different opinions than you.

Except that's infringing on everybody elses freedom isn't it? What people need to do really is... Wait for it.... MIND THEIR OWN DAMN BUSINESS! I cannot express how much this pisses me off! Express yourself all you want but stop interfering with my freedoms. The game isn't illegal therefore how is it right to get it banned or removed just because it's against someone's uptight morality? If this was the case then I want X Factor, all reality TV, pop music, celebrities, the bible and politics banned immediately before I cause a serious mess!

If someone is 'predisposed' to certain behaviour then it doesn't matter whether or not they play the game because anything could set it off. Film, book or (shock horror) real life? If they are predisposed then it is because of things in their upbringing like lack of discipline, crap parents, no care etc.

Don't you think it's a little strange how millions of people play violent computer games all their lives and live perfectly normally without killing anybody? Yet if someone is violent to somebody and it just so happens they play games then that is the reason for the violence? Like people were less violent before games and film....don't make me laugh

And whether you understand it or not computer games aren't worthless. They are where people go to get away from the utter crap that seems to be dumped on us daily from this completely oppressive system that smothers us everyday and allows to act out mentally what we aren't allowed to do physically. You need to be thankful they do... Saves them taking it out on you

a reply to: 74Templar

I'm way behind on video games, but is this the one that allows the "first-person shooter" to have virtual sex with a willing female? If so, I can understand the complaints.

So many people have no idea what they are buying when they buy a video game that the kid is simply dying to have.

I'm a little on the fence about this and it's causing me problems.

One the one hand although I dont play games anymore I remember playing the first to GTA's and loving them. Now I am a parent and dont like the idea of my son playing it before he is an adult(exactly like I did)

If Target is a general type shop then I think I agree with there decision in the same way they proberblly don't sell pornography.

If your an adult then you can go and support a dedicated games store where they take more care in who they sell things to and keep a few quid out of the big boys pocket.

a reply to: nonspecific

Well, no need to be on the fence because Target also sells carving knives. Any kid could go in and buy a set of knives as a gift for 'mum', and then go around actually causing risks to himself and others. If we keep letting the PC brigade rule things by chipping away at consumer rights inch by inch, soon shopping online will be the only place to go because all the Targets are filled with padded walls and pillows. Oh crap, pillows can be used to smother...

So no need to try and justify which way on the fence to sit, don't forget we spent 10 years practically jumping up and down to demand we get an R18 rating for games. Before that, GTA type games kept going under the 16 age group and getting into slightly younger and even less mature teens hands. If they keep to the rules and only sell to adults, and make sure they are kept high or behind the counter I see no need for a knee jerk response.

I grew up with violent videos games and have never once gone on a killing spree so I am not too worried about that. I do not know what kind of shop Target is but if they sell everything then they are somewhat limited.

If I go to tesco's and buy GTA# then the lady scans it through and charges me for it.

If I go to a dedicated gaming shop thike GAME then the geeky bearded dude with the minecraft tshirt asks if the game is for me, If I say no it's a gift then quite often they will investigate to make sure I'ts not for a 6 year old and try to establish if it's an appropriate gift.

I am nearly 40 and have a beard so I imagine if granny came in they would take the time to steer them away from anything inappropriate because they care about what they do.

I agree that selling knifes is dangerous but the likleyhood of someone buying a blade as a gift for a small child is pretty slim, an unsuspecting family member buying a game is far more likley.

a reply to: Qumulys

a reply to: 74Templar

I'm trying to understand the issue to begin with....as I have played the game and not encountered any 'have to commit sexual violence towards women and kill them that then rewards you with 'health' points'.

Is there a mission in the game that actually even has something like that? I've not seen anything of the sort so far. Just the digital perv at the gentlemens club

a reply to: 74Templar

It's nuts. You Aussies are really in danger of getting all soft and emotional and stuff.

It's just not right i tell you. You'll be banning mullets and refusing to cut the sleeves off of your shirts soon. Bunch of raving jessies.

a reply to: 74Templar

Woolworths is belly up here in the States and will soon be in AUS as well. Internet marketing has more selection these days and better prices as well. Best Buy and Wally World are not competing with price matches on Amazon. We had 50-inch flat screen TV's going for $199.00 this past week.

With the exception of electronics though, I'm a local shopper. Thrift/Consignment stores, GameStop, etc...

As for being PC? Eff 'em I say!

a reply to: LightAssassin

No, there are no official missions that ask or force you to do that.

These politically correct (PC) crybabies have obviously never played the game, so they don't understand the "freedom" you are given inside this particular game. They don't realize you can do almost anything you want in the virtual world.

All they have done is watched some video on YouTube of some guy exercising his freedoms in said free virtual world, and they are claiming the game supports said acts officially. They don't even mention that killing people and or acting out violently in said game usually comes with punishment, and the police try to catch you.

It just a bunch of goody goodies crying about something they don't know about.