What is the real truth of wars, wealth, race, and racism?

originally posted by: satsanga
Not quite all. Some burn in Hell for eternity.

Not some, MOST...

Sad but true.

Christians in Hell

The two angels escorted me to Hell. I then saw many pastors, elders, and deacons in Hell. I asked the angel, “I know them. They had served God faithfully while on the Earth. They had died some time ago. We all had thought they were in Heaven with God. But now, I see them all in Hell and they are crying out that it is so hot! Why are they here?” There were so many pastors, elders, deacons and all other lay believers.

The angel answered, “Pastor Park Yong Gyu, a person can appear to be a true follower of Christ on the outside but God knows the heart.

There are multitudes of churches on the Earth and many of the churches are filled with many people. However, most of them are not true Christians. They are but church attendants. The true churches will firmly believe in Heaven and a Hell. The lives of many Christians are in chaos because they do not firmly believe in Heaven and Hell. When one soul enters Heaven, one thousand cursed souls enter Hell. The rate of Heaven and Hell is 1 to 1000.” (Matt 7:14)

Heaven & Hell 1000 to 1

Bishop Wilfred Lai is the founder and senior Pastor of Jesus Celebration Center in Mombasa, Kenya and it is a church of over 15,000 members. One day he asked the Lord how many of them were ready for heaven and the Lord told him only 200. Only 1% of that church is going to heaven! Dr. Lai said that some pastors have created large groups of sinners meeting in the name of God. “What you have are not churches, but large congregations of sinners.”

Message from Pastor Wilfred Lai

On August 3, 1979, Howard Pittman, a Baptist minister for 35 years, died while on the operating table during surgery and had a near-death experience.

Instead of allowing me to enter, the angel stationed me before the Gates, slightly to one side. He instructed me to stay there and watch as the saints were permitted to enter into Heaven. This point was so important that the Holy Spirit told me Himself. I watched the fifty saints enter Heaven, but the point I missed was the time frame involved.

It was explained to me that at the same time those fifty saints died on Earth, 1,950 other humans also died; or only 50 out of 2000 made it into Heaven. That other 1,950 were not there. Where were they? That was only 2 ½ percent going to Heaven! Ninety seven point five percent did not make it! Is that representative of the entire world today? If so, 97 ½ percent of the population of this world today is not ready to meet God.

Placebo by Howard Pittman

a reply to: jheated5
I'm afraid I don't know of these "layman" books you speak of, what are they? Do you mean to say you would like the original text in Latin and Greek?

originally posted by: satsanga
a reply to: jheated5
I'm afraid I don't know of these "layman" books you speak of, what are they? Do you mean to say you would like the original text in Latin and Greek?

Yes original text in either would be fine, translated correctly of course.

a reply to: jheated5

www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com...


ps. Adhominin attacks are a fallacy.

What does belief that hell is an eternal place have to do with the topic of this thread? Nothing it has no relavence.

My point is the divine is in us all and even punishing in hell that truth would still be the truth.

It is my belief that all the forms in this universe or any other universes in motion stillness alive or dead are mearly forms of the divine. Or these are all forms of god, so we should show love and reverence for each other in order to invoke an evolutionary trend towards a singularity where all see the one in all, and the one see's the all engrosed in the one.

Though moving through the world of humankind our eyes are fixed on the final goal of the singularity.

a reply to: FormOfTheLord
The morals that you are propounding in your OP are grounded on theology, more specifically, Christianity. What is implied for theologically based morals when the god it rests on is amoral? It is very relevant to the topic at hand.

originally posted by: satsanga
a reply to: FormOfTheLord

The morals that you are propounding in your OP are grounded on theology, more specifically, Christianity. What is implied for theologically based morals when the god it rests on is amoral? It is very relevant to the topic at hand.

Think what you like, the morals could be any religion you want them to be doesnt change the fact that all is one. The divine is in all of creation, or you can say counsiousness, or infinate energy doesnt matter what you call it ots everywhere and in all.

Science will tell you that we came from a singularity the size of a particle meaning all came from one and one is in all and that singularity continues to expand to this very day.

The idea that any race is different than anther is an illusion based in ignorance.

Did you even read the original message I posted in my first post?

Did you watch the 2 minute vid?

Did you pay attention to the workings of how our brain and mind decode reality?

Wow found a video for folks interested in other with a similar view:

Hello Everyone, this video is about Ending The Me vs. U mentality! Realizing how we are all interconnected to each other. Everyone wants to be loved. It's time to be the Love you would like to see in the world! Much love to All Creation!
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As long as our society continues on the path of division of US VS THEM and duality our energies will be turned towards self destruction rather than a more loving and divine destiny. Why bestow this evil fate on our children and the generations to ome after them?

We are quantum entangled with everything in the entire universe, meaning shareing the same space time at the quantum level. So destroying our own planet, fellow beings, animals, and environment is nothing more than destroying ourselves. Why teach our children to destroy the earth and any and all beings that share the planet with us?

As long as our civilization continues on this path of self destruction it will be passed on to our children, because we couldnt get it right, failing to overcome base desires to commit evil acts of self masochism upon our fellow beings and planet. Future generations one after another will bear this burden because our society refused to stop the momentum of evil but chose to instead fan the flames of hatred for others embracing that which is false blinded victims of selfish pride.

The work of our society is to inspire the nations to forsake suicidal wars, race hatreds, religious sectarianism, and the boomeranging evils of materialism. Why promote wars, materialism, and racism to be passed on to our children, if our society could but forsake these things our evolution could become progressive rather than regressive.

If we fail to do this our children and all the following generations will inherit this heavy burden, and our current society wont be a boon to our children but instead a hinderance. We did not help our kids but instead we hurt our own children who will take up our positions of race hatreds, materialism, and suicidial wars as stewards of self destruction of the earth and our fellow sentient beings.


Why dump it on the kids to overcome it?

When there is a collective will to overcome these things then a way opens for us to make it happen.

Push the agenda of love and peace, for the good of the world and for our own good.

Let the children inherit a place we percieve to be filled with good not filled with evil.

The thing about racism is that it judges people based on sterotypes like skin color dictates culture, which it doesnt in the least bit.
Skin color has zero to do with culture period.
This is illustrated in this comedy sketch which is about how African Americans are type cast for various parts in film.
There is no such thing as acting like any race, this has been done by the media portraying how people are to act from the start.