boxing vs mma.....lets go

originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: GoShredAK

How did it go??

Well, I can answer that question now. I was first to fight. I had the appearance of a man with pure confidence, when I'm reality I've been a nervous wreck this whole time, excited, but nerves. Anxiety. I could rattle off several more excuses but why?

My opponent was a kickboxer, myself a freestyle fighter making his debut. (video incoming, my mom has a decent one she recorded on her phone, I may need everyone's help figuring out how, but we will get it.)

Can't really give an accurate play by play because It was all so fast, I was In my head, oh yeah, and got kicked in the head a few times
But will provide my best summary.

We meet in the center of the cage, not long before I land the first leg kick, he answers with one of his own. I land a few more weak leg kicks and eventually starts finding his jab, and lands a few rights. He starts going to the head with the kicks, if I remember right I recieved a roundhouse to each side of my head, and a front kick to the face.

He sees I'm not much of a threat any longer and flurries. Somehow we end up on the ground, I grab a guillotine, not deep enough, use that and the cage to work back to the feet. I break free and move back to the center (mistake, at this point I had no business with this boy on the feet)

He eventually pops me with a clean punch to the right eye, just as the round ended. Split me open and temporarily blinded my right eye. The vision slowly came back but it is still a bit off. I decided to submit verbally. I was bleeding from my nose cheek and eye, I had already gassed out and defeated myself mentally, and was only going to get KTFO. I don't need a concussion.

My next fight is October ninth, for a different organization founded by Rob Couture, Randys brother, I respect these guys, they found me to make sure I knew I was welcome at the gym and the next event.

I will come back healthier and more prepared. Hungrier, and with a real team behind me.

Tonight the other guy put in the work and was the better man as a result. The beating has only inspired me to train harder and not be an idiot. No deterrence.

a reply to: GoShredAK

Even the greats lose, especially early on. You got in the cage, something I have never had the balls to do.

a reply to: GoShredAK

Man that sounds like a good trial by fire...and maybe a mismatch? At least you're still geared up for it. 4 weeks seems a bit soon for someone who's starting out and just had some head trauma. You'll have concussion effects till probably late in the week. Be careful, there's no need to rush is there? Good luck with the training though and definitely good luck in the next fight.

Train smart.

A mate of mine runs an MMA gym. His first legit fight was a mismatch that pitted him against an undefeated local legend - Ian Butlin. He had his ass kicked in the first round. These things happen right?? The closest I've been is sparring when I've had the odd bloody nose and kickass concussion.

Thanks you guys I really appreciate the kind words and support.

Definite mismatch, this guy had clearly spent hours training, at least one fight under his belt which was a W, and spent 9 hours driving just for this event.

Myself, virtually zero, first fist fight ever, and spent at least three days beating myself mentally with anxiety beforehand.

Cool thing is, I held my own for at least one round, and displayed proper technique, (no flailing or any such nonsense) and proved to myself I can take a punch or two, or ten...lol The headkicks that did land weren't solid enough. Thank God.

I was shown a lot of love in there still, so must have done something right.

The promoter said they don't make mismatches but that's absolute BS. She just wants to fill spots. The disorganization and unproffesionalism I witnessed has me convinced of this.

The other guys are the OGs, I respect much more, I will be training with and fighting for them from now on.

4 weeks is a bit soon, but I plan to get right back into it to prove he didn't hurt me, and that I want this. Only minor head trauma I think, mostly cosmetic damage.

The way my left thigh feels this morning, (as if stricken by a baseball bat) if I had taken one of those to the head I'd probably have been hospital bound, which is where it was headed after he blinded my one eye.

Also I'll have some actual training under my belt. If the guys at the gym think I should wait till after Oct 9th, I'll listen. I'd like a fight though.

Anyhow, thanks for allowing me to vent.

I just had my wife bug my mom for the vid, plus we're going over there for a family BBQ later, so by the end of the day I should have some footage for you guys........also my good buddy and cornermans wife got a full video and my wife is having her E-Mail to us...........

Thanks again, be back later, may need help with the footage

I should have gone into round two and took it to the ground. Mad at myself for that, but I had given up after my eye got a little messed up and I knew he was finding the kick.

Tough pill to swallow, now I have to get back get back in there.

a reply to: GoShredAK

There is usually more learned by defeat than victory, at least for those willing to learn. I think your analysis that you played more into his strengths than you should have is spot on.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Thank you, that was really cool of you to say, it's been a mental tug of war between pride and shame. So little bits of encouragement like that mean a lot to me.

It's really awesome the encouragement I have recieved from everywhere!

ATS, other fighters, random people, friends, family, everywhere. I absolutely will carry on with this new passion.

I'm sorry the video is taking so long. It's like pulling teeth getting my mom to do something like send me a copy or post a video to YouTube.

My buddies wife can't figure out how to email her copy. Nobody knows I promised to share the video here so they're not feeling the urgency.

Fortunately tomorrow I'm going to talk to my buddy directly, tell him my situation and I know he'll have the ability to help me get the dang footage posted here.

It'll be on here soon, kind of embarrassing because I know I can fight better, but I'm a man of my word. I've already shared a compilation of my skateboarding on here anyway so I'm less hesitant to share more.

a reply to: GoShredAK

It's all good my mom would not even know how to record it to begin with

a reply to: OccamsRazor04 And everyone else I've been talking to..........

Alright I got it! It's on youtube.

Skip to 3:25 for the action.



I imagine by the end of fight you'll be able to guess which one I am....thanks in advance for watching me get my butt whooped, ill be back.

Mistakes I see;

I should have jumped guard and fully committed to the guillotine.

I should have thrown more punches, especially when his hands were down.

Once we went to the ground, and I got back to my feet, I should have stopped playing his game, and went for a takedown, and eventually sunk in a rear naked choke, (the only move I know well and have won garage style exhibition jujitsu matches with).

Many more I'm sure......

Oh yeah! when I got to work earlier this last Tuesday, they showed me the paper. I made the front page! It was all about my fight!

I wanted to get my name out there, I think I succeeded

This was the first fist fight I've ever had in my entire life. There have been a couple scrimmages but this was the closest I've been to a real fight. I'm not at all a violent person, I don't even like seeing street fights. This was just a challenge to myself, I wanted to prove to myself I could do it, and see if I truly want this hobby.

The answer is an absolute yes, I can't wait for the next one, and I can't wait to step into the gym!

a reply to: GoShredAK

The dude looked like he had a few pounds weight advantage plus inches of reach. Once he had your reach measured off, he settled in with counter-strikes and had more speed. I reckon he kept his guard low because he knew he had advantages and was inviting you to over-swing, lose your centre and walk onto his left jab. His relaxed stance looks like experience and confidence were on his side.

I thought the same thing...you had a chance of rear naked choke. His ground-game didn't look as strong.

You showed heart in the face of a better opponent.

a reply to: Kandinsky

Thank you! I really appreciate you checking it out. The encouraging words mean a lot to me.

Good eye. I was just over 150 and he weighed 157 that night, the promoter had to tell me he weighed over 155 and gave me the choice to back out. (they are kind of unorganized, I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter what you weigh on fight night, just the weigh ins the night before, which I attended and they didn't even watch me weigh myself, just took my word for it lol) and good call on the hands low, he probably was baiting me, I'm glad I kept my hands up lol.

I really should have gone to the ground, it's nuts that didn't even occur to me.

He definitely had the reach and more xp on his side, plus although I respect the guy and he earned it, I sort of handed him the win by being so nervous, and defeating myself mentally. I feel like if I had found it in me to focus and actually think, I could have won.

It didn't even seem real, adrenaline and nerves were about all I was running on and adrenaline and nerves did me in.

Now I will be so much more comfortable in an Mma gym, and I'm very excited to commit to this lifestyle and compete in more fights.

a reply to: GoShredAK

Everyone gets beaten in their first fights. It's all learning curve isn't it? And MMA is like boxing in the way experienced fighters get the inexperienced ones to practice on and build their Ws.

Most people would walk away from that...no, MOST people wouldn't dare to even try. That's a great quality you've got to try and try again. More training and you'll work on whatever you think you did wrong.

On a side note, have you followed Mcgregor's sh!t-talking lately? Jeez, that's next level BS what he said to Aldo. I was jaw-on-the-floor the way he dissed the guy. He's in ALdo's head off that.

a reply to: Kandinsky

Thanks again, it's too cool to read stuff like that, very motivating.

What did he say to him? Will he be fighting Faber or aldo next?

Is this mcgregor trash talk recent? I've been kind of out of the loop the past few weeks. I knew he was coaching ultimate fighter opposite of Urijah Faber, but that's about it.

Did you see the video of mcgregor and Faber almost throwing down in some hallway due to mcgregors antics? Then Faber called him a crackhead lol. I hope he's not taking it to far, I have become a mcgregor fan, but the trash talk stuff has its limits, and a time and place I think. I think it is awesome seeing fighters being humble and showing mutual respect.

a reply to: GoShredAK

Yeah, I think Conor's in the loop and has Dana's blessing to go big and outrageous. He told Aldo not to be scared, it'd be over real quick and he'd treat him like a lady. He's also saying he's gonna run from the fight and that he'd piss hot.

I like Faber but I think Conor ambushed him in that video with Dana knowing what he was planning. On Sonnen's podcast, a fighter was saying Conor never shows on TUF...just for the cameras with zero coaching. Think it was TJ, not sure.

TBH I'm a big fan of Conor, but I'm gonna look at the odds on an Aldo win.

ETA - Wow. The UK bookies have Conor as favourite. £10 on Aldo win would return £25

a reply to: Kandinsky



Dang! I have to admit this bit is pretty hilarious,

He told Aldo not to be scared, it'd be over real quick and he'd treat him like a lady. He's also saying he's gonna run from the fight and that he'd piss hot

In a mean sort of way. Holy cow, he just may sabotage Aldo with mind games. That would suck to have to deal with.

That is interesting he doesn't show up to actually coach, I was wondering about that the other day. I'm not surprised, it makes more sense that it's all just purely for ratings.

I figured as good as he is, he's still progressing, and still being coached but not really coach material yet. I may be way off on that, just how I feel though.

a reply to: GoShredAK

Conor invited the lightweight division to start cutting weight to step in for Aldo lol. They were pissed off big time. He's the best sh!t-talker in a long time - another league to Chael.

This one's my favourite...from cricket:

McGrath: “Why are you so fat?”

Brandes “Because every time I f*** your wife, she gives me a biscuit.”

www.cricketsledges.com...

a reply to: Kandinsky

A modern day Irish Ali!

I hope he continues to dominate, he must, with all this talk and the momentum he's built so far, his will be a great story in history.

If he gets beaten soon, I won't know what to think.

mcgregor aldo will be my next PPV purchase.

And to bring the thread back to boxing for a second, I'm a little irritated that mayweather has another big fight coming up. My step-brother bought mayweather vs pacquiao, and I felt bad for him and his $100. I found it atrocious. Obviously it takes a great deal of talent to not get beat up by manny pacquiao the way he did, but why so much money? It'd be cooler to give back rather than flaunt the wealth.

a reply to: GoShredAK

What weight class? What's your walking around weight before cut? That guy looked like a full weight class bigger if not more, what's his name?

Edit: Saw your next post. Looks like you could maybe make 145 even and he is a 170er, huge mismatch in size which gave him a huge reach advantage.