Did NASA just admit they never put Man on The Moon? [Video]

a reply to: Kangaruex4Ewe

Thank you.

Here's a simulated video of the coming Orion launch tomorrow morning @ approx 7:00am. Of note to this thread is the statements at about 1:20 regarding the system traversing the VAB. The narrators words reference the conversation being discussed here, and clarifies what that statement REALLY means...not the speculation of the OP.



PS: I fully expect the OP and others to respond with a moving of the "goal posts" by saying something like, "well, of course he's going to say that, he's just covering up for the leak by that engineer. It proves nothing. He's lying, ad nauseum....

a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

You know..., I often wonder why there are so many indications that a lie has been fed to the public when it comes to the moon first landing and the existance of other beings than ourselves visiting the Earth.

The event that made be doubt the first moonlanding was the first interview after their return from the Moon. Their body language and their uncertain answers screamed insecureness and ... I Do Not Want To Be Here Right Now!!!

I wanted and expected to see a very happy, informal relaxed and confident crew answering questions to the reporters.

originally posted by: zatara
The event that made be doubt the first moon landing

But no one from our nation's enemies or the hundreds of amateur astronomers and ham radio operators around the world monitoring the actual events on the moon stated any doubts. That didn't dissuade you from your doubts?

Their body language and their uncertain answers screamed insecureness and ... I Do Not Want To Be Here Right Now!!

So you're an expert in the body language of exhausted people who have trained for years to be emotionless in the face of stress and unexpected situations?

a reply to: Krakatoa

Of note to this thread is the statements at about 1:20 regarding the system traversing the VAB.

Thanks for that.

Now time to sit back and watch this thread to see what happens.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

But no one from our nation's enemies or the hundreds of amateur astronomers and ham radio operators around the world monitoring the actual events on the moon stated any doubts.

And I can almost guarantee Russia would have been all over that had they found it wasn't actually real, especially at that time in history.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Actually, the Soviet Union confirmed it.

Here's one story about it, from 1989: Russians Finally Admit They Lost Race to Moon

originally posted by: zatara
a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

I wanted and expected to see a very happy, informal relaxed and confident crew answering questions to the reporters.

These men weren't chosen to do the job they did because of their PR skills.

Your expectations of Apollo 11's crew are what most of us have come to expect from a generation brought up in a world where how straight and white your teeth are can, and will, get you or cost you the gig.

If that video is what has you suspicious about Apollo then it is lamentable that such fickle thinkers abound ATS.

a reply to: zatara

Military test pilots they were used to punching out of jets let's just say they had no training to deal with the press. The same skills that got theme the job namely being cool and unemotional makes a bad interview.

a reply to: zatara

I could just as easily use your process to surmise that based upon your lack of knowledge of the Apollo space program and the character of the men involved, you are a silly person that ignores facts in favor of reading and interpreting emotions. But I too would be just as wrong and out-of-touch with the facts, and leaping to wild conclusions based upon nothing but speculation.

I won't pick holes in your thread.. As obviously there are so many nasty trolls on this site who get off on that sort of thing.
I think one of the poor sods even carried someones reply tagged to him like some primitive headhunter..? (God bless their souls)
Anyway.. Thanks for taking the time to put this video up.. as it makes for interesting viewing .

There are questions that present themselves..
Like with so many un-manned vehicles that have already ventured into "outer space" one would assume they would know by now how to shield electronics..

Also during the Bush administration I believe they slammed an un-manned satellite into the moon.. I think under the pretence of trying to see if there was or had been any water..?
Which did at the time make me chuckle.. Considering it was so easy to get there (so to speak) so many yrs ago..

By the way.. A little scepticism is healthy, if people hadn't doubted the commonly held belief that the world was flat..
things would be alot different today.

(and.. remember, don't argue with the trolls.. cos they won't stop til they "think" they've won)
:mnky

Does anyone know the speed at which the lander had to achieve to dock with the orbiter?

How about the height above the lunar surface?

How many revolutions made until docking (one attempt possible).

a reply to: cheery1

What kind of website do you think this is?

This is a debate, a conflict of ideas, not a place where somebody says "hey guys I saw this video on youtube that says they didn't land on the moon, so it must be true" and everybody babbles along in accordance, like a bunch of kids in a tree house at the bottom of a garden.

Like any subject, look at the the information, all of it, before you go calling fake on things you don't know anything about, which is pretty much the MO of any moon hoax fans on here. Typing such gems of wisdom as "we just don't know" or "where's the proof" denotes one thing and one thing only: ignorance of the subject matter, simples.

a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

Of course NASA went to the moon. Why Elon Musk and Richard Branson to name a few, would otherwise have touristic trips in mind about reaching places far beyond the moon?
No doubt about the fact that NASA went to the moon, but they are reluctant to go there again, so they must make some negative publicity.

From www.evawaseerst.be...

Elon Musk is a superman. He knows the future lies in space. He knows we have to colonize space. But about our moon he doesn't talk much. Why not? We don't know, but we know his greatest client is NASA and NASA doesn't like the moon to be colonized. To Elon Musk (and NASA) our moon is just good enough to create a moon base, by doing so we can explore Mars and space in general. According to him (and to NASA with a little reservation) we must soon colonize Mars. In fact, that's what we conclude when we read many interviews with the man.
You become a mystery to us mister Musk if we read that you apparently don't see the need to colonize the moon, not even just a little bit. Believe us or not but all problems about lunar habitats could be solved according to many scholars and then we even don't mention the moon tunnels.
And when you said Mars is only 150 times further then our moon -every two years Earth and Mars reach their closest point- we even thought for a second that with your Tesla racing car you must have lost contact with the idea of distance.
ONLY 150 times? Is that your way of saying that reaching the moon must be -what all insiders probably know- just a piece of cake?

This is a debate, a conflict of ideas, not a place where somebody says "hey guys I saw this video on youtube that says they didn't land on the moon.

a reply to: seabhac-rua
LMAO!! oh.. thats why you can go on threads with lovely poems & cute pictures..
LOL.. a conflict of ideas.. sounds like your at war son (a conflict alright.. in your head & your nice side is the.. loser)

Like any subject, look at the the information, all of it, before you go calling fake on things you don't know anything about.......

ROFLOL!!!!!!
Yes.. I agree totally How about you go back & look at the subject (my post)..
look at the the information, all of it.. SLMAO!! And see where "I" called "anything" fake..

Then I suggest you take a few deep breaths and calm down..
P.S. don't respond to me either.. (unless of course you want to say you're sorry)

Have a lovely day..

a reply to: cheery1

LMAO!!!, LOL, ROFLOL!!!!!!, SLMAO!!

Great communication skills.

When will human beings break the Russian Glass Ceiling of 475km space altitude?

Two Gemini missions broke 475km, so the space altitude record could be broken with a Titan II (or comparable) rocket and a Gemini capsule (or comparable).

There was also some company trying to sell circumlunar space flights to tourists using existing Russian Soyuz capsules. Can you believe it? Existing Soyuz capsules can make circumlunar flights!

Breaking records is something that human beings like to do. It is human nature to excel and break the boundaries and establish new vistas of human achievement.

Obviously, looking back on the last 50 years of human space exploration, we can see the tendency to stay well below the record making space altitudes and to set aside dreams of Mars made popular by Wernher von Braun - the Nazi claimed that Apollo/Saturn could achieve a manned mission to Mars by the 1980's. (Well, he didn' t live that long.)

Nixon cancelled Apollo missions and ordered NASA to stay in low earth orbit with the space shuttle program. Why? Because the earth radiation belts are dangerous, unnpredictable obstacles to manned space flights outside of low earth orbit.


The Orion will not have a manned flight test before the next presidential election. Moon exploration has become a hot potato for every American president since Nixon.

I find it strange that nobody has thought to send a woman on a circumlunar space flight, it would surely make the front pages around the world, it would surely result in great rejoicing and respect for the nation or company that did it. Not in 50 years. Why? the Glass Ceiling is real.

a reply to: SayonaraJupiter

Do you ever read what you write?? You said the record is 475 k than say two Gemini capsules broke it. And for some strange reason totally ignoring Apollo. But that aside spending billions to break a record isn't going to happen. The next step is to harness resources and expand our reach into space. The sad truth is the moon isn't a very big step. A space station is much better than landing on the moon

There isn't really an economic reason to go to the moon other than tourism and we aren't at that stage. And quite frankly given a choice between the moon and say Mars most would choose Mars. Main reason for Mars however is money it sets us up to mine asteroids and of course Martian resources. Don't think the latest moves by governments isn't anything more than staking claims to resources.

As far as the van Allen belts van Allen himself said yes we can pass through them so this imaginary limit you place doesn't exist any where but your head. The only issue we have is how to protect the astronauts from missions which become years instead of days like apollo.

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: SayonaraJupiter

As far as the van Allen belts van Allen himself said yes we can pass through them so this imaginary limit you place doesn't exist any where but your head.

I beg to differ:

But, though mechanical and electronic equipment can operate within the high radiation areas, a living organism cannot survive this level of radiation damage. Hence, all manned space flight attempts must steer clear of these two belts of radiation until adequate means of safeguarding the astronauts has been developed.

-Dr. James Van Allen, Space World, December 1961.

So farr, the most interesting and least expected result of man's exploration of the immediate vicinity of the earth is the discovery that our planet is ringed by a region–to be exact, two regions–of high-energy radiation extending many thousands of miles into space. This discovery is of course troubling to astronauts; somehow the human body will have to be shielded from this radiation, even on a rapid transit through the region.

-Dr. James Van Allen, Scientific American, March 1959.

-MM

a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

are you suggesting the apollo command module was NOT shielded at all??