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originally posted by: kaylaluv
What they don't want is a repeat of what happened during a couple of hundred years in America. To deny that it happened is wrong, and to deny that there is any possibility of history repeating itself is naive. Hence, the sensitivity.
Past abuses are not an excuse for violence now.
We cannot collectively help those who do not help themselves first.
The death has, of course, been hard on Collar's family, Beasley said. But he added they have forgiven the officer who fired the fatal shot, and are praying for him.
It's not fair to blame blacks for all of their problems.
Those born in the poor black community have many things stacked against them. Poverty, violence, high availability of drugs, continuing prejudice, lack of decent jobs, etc., etc., etc. Possible to get out? Yes, but it's not easy - in fact, it's very, very difficult.
there are people, many of them right here on ATS, who believe that business owners should be able to refuse service to anyone they choose, including blacks. I am outraged by that, and I'm white. Can you imagine how a black person feels about it?
I would either be angry as hell or scared as hell that history will repeat itself.
originally posted by: Cancerwarrior
That statement could easily apply to many, many white people I know. Where is NAACP for whitey? Never gonna happen, its too "racist".
And besides, its illegal to refuse service based on race, gender, religion etc. so I'm not sure what your point is.
The NAACP was formed because of the long history of whites oppressing blacks in America. Again, where is the long history of blacks oppressing whites in America?
And if the tea party ever gets in control, I could see those laws being repealed.
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
Ok let me get this straight...
A black kid who assaulted a shopkeeper for cigars, & supposedly charged a cop, gets shot by a white cop in a neighbourhood that is disenfranchised with police profiling the black community...
That's bound to cause outrage...
A white kid takes El Es Dee (not promoting its use, just to establish what happened), assaults others, acts like a maniac and confronts a cop, naked, in a crouched position (he was a wrestler)... asking, literally, asking for a fight with the on campus black officer at a university when he charged the man down...
Btw protests were planned by the students of the Alabama university...
So there is the facts...
What confuses me is the fact that you want outrage now...
I thought that two wrongs don't make a right personally...
The unarmed college student fatally shot by a campus police officer in the early hours of Saturday morning had taken '___' and assaulted three people before chasing him, authorities have revealed.
Gil Collar, 18, took the drug at an outdoor music festival before assaulting two people in vehicles and trying to bite a woman's arm, Mobile County Sheriff Sam Cochran said at a news conference on Tuesday.
He had come outside the police headquarters when he heard Collar, a 5-foot-7, 135-pound former high school wrestler, banging on its door, Cochran said. Surveillance footage showed Collar naked and covered in sweat as he chased the officer for more than 50 feet.
originally posted by: Cancerwarrior
You are missing the point entirely.
Blacks are not "oppressed" anymore than anyone else is. They need to get over themselves already.
While student loan debt is at record numbers across the board, McGhee says, black college graduates are twice as likely to have student loan debt as their white counterparts, who often use their statistically higher wealth to pay for college and take on less debt.
"It means a difference between the African-American graduate coming out, graduating into a recession ... [and] having to start paying down her student loans," McGhee tells NPR's Jacki Lyden. "Whereas her white classmate actually doesn't and is able to get a job faster."
While it is hard for anyone to educate or work their way into the middle class these days, McGhee says, it is twice as hard for blacks.