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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: DJW001
Calling Travis a joker is subjective on your part.
Not a valid conclusion to be drawn by any serous study of the case.
And why it remains to this day as one of the most compelling.
It's an hypothesis that fits the facts and is more commonsensical than thinking it is evidence of extraterrestrial visitation.
originally posted by: Emma3
I would like to hear your opinions on the following (you can answer just 1 or 2, if you want to):
1 - If someone has a dream about being put back home from a (triangular) spaceship, do you think that means something or was it just a random dream?
2 - How often do abductees remember their abductions and how much of it do they remember?
3 - Do the memories feel like real memories or more like a dream type of thing?
Thank you in advance
He appeared on game shows. They made a movie about the incident. And he failed a lie detector test.
originally posted by: DJW001
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: DJW001
Calling Travis a joker is subjective on your part.
Not a valid conclusion to be drawn by any serous study of the case.
And why it remains to this day as one of the most compelling.
It's an hypothesis that fits the facts and is more commonsensical than thinking it is evidence of extraterrestrial visitation.
originally posted by: crayzeed
I can't understand the double dealing with memories when it comes to alien abductions. When people want to debunk the alien angle they hit at false or implanted memories as if just the alien abduction memories are false. Let me tell all of you who do or do not believe in them. No matter what any leading brain mechanics say about recovered memories, ALL memories are recovered that's what memories are. Now memories (whoops, when in a court of law) can get you put in jail for long periods of time and can even get you executed, but when it comes to alien abductions they can't be relied on, they're false. Come on people you can't have it both ways.
originally posted by: gortex
Dreams are a reflection of our subconscious and as such figments of our imagination.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Emma3
Good cases to review about this are Travis Walton (deep rabbit hole) and Betty and Barney Hill. Also check out a book title, Conmmunion by Whitley Streiber.
These and other encounters go way beyond just some dreaming, involving more than one person and more than one eyewitness.
1 - If someone has a dream about being put back home from a (triangular) spaceship, do you think that means something or was it just a random dream?
Concluding abduction by aliens is usually a matter of adding a bunch of things up that lend more credibility to the experiences overall, sometimes over a lifetime.
originally posted by: intrptr
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: intrptr
Travis Walton hid from the limelight and offers of money for decades. He and his fellow logging buddies tried to forget about it, not ride the gravy train.
He appeared on game shows. They made a movie about the incident. And he failed a lie detector test.
He appeared on "Moment of Truth" 34 years after the incident. If he was trying to get notoriety why wait that long?Travis wasn't involved in the movie. Except for one incomplete and invalid result, the other members of his crew all passed lie detector tests while Travis was still missing. Travis was missing for five days and his buddies were being blamed for it by authorities. So they took lie detector tests…
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Travis test 34 years later on a game show valid?
originally posted by: 111DPKING111
a reply to: Emma3
I saw some recent accounts on destination america.
One involved two twins(Debbie and Audrey) , interesting there is a third party involved who also claims to be abducted and he recognizes these twins years later as being on board the ship he was.
www.destinationamerica.com...
other involved Bret Oldham, claims he and his girlfriend were abducted which led to their separation. Apparently they also took their child.
www.destinationamerica.com...
apmagazine.info...'
Both cases involve more than one person who can corroborate the story. If you look into the Bret story, the corroboration is a stronger imo. Interesting stuff.
originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Emma3
If someone has a dream in which they are a Roman Emperor does that mean past lives are real?
Dreams are a reflection of our subconscious and as such figments of our imagination.
I believe there are several reasons why people may report that they've been abducted by Aliens but I see no evidence that Aliens are responsible for any abductions.
This doesn't mean that some of the people who report having been "abducted" are lying. It means that there could be other explanations, some very mundane and some even stranger than alien abductions.