Trillion Dollar Conspiracy... 9/11 Mounting Evidence...

a reply to: romilo

What can we do about it?

Well.. What is it these DEVILS want..??
It appears that they are eroding our freedoms.
weapons, guns, fireworks even dogs are too dangerous for us.
I DON'T think hitting them head-on is an option.. at least not yet.
The way I see it is what the Romans & the Greeks before them did.. NON-COMPLIANCE..
In years gone by when situations similar occured the proletariats (working class) used to walk out of the cities..
Parasites live & feed off the host.. WE ARE THE HOST.
Try not to be the "consumer" it's our money that feeds them AND BINDS US.
This has been made harder for us to achieve now days because of our getting soft over time with the technical age which the majority of us are now dependant on.. (no accident there?).

Though wait too long.. G.E. will also rob us of the ability to NATURALY reproduce plants etc (Monopoly on Nature who woulda thunk it??).

In short physically fighting = more LAWs Educating ourselves & others = FREEDOM

Sorry for my enormous length..

originally posted by: waypastvne
a reply to: Zenem
Nope they're all dead. There is no evidence of any of them being alive dated after sept 27 2001 that is the day the FBI released their full identities. Before that date there was some confusion, after that date no confusion.

I don't know about that, there's tons of articles from news networks interviewing them because they were proclaiming their innocence - Some phoned from their embassy n Saudi Arabia etc

originally posted by: Zenem
I don't know about that, there's tons of articles from news networks interviewing them because they were proclaiming their innocence - Some phoned from their embassy n Saudi Arabia etc

Link?

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: Zenem
I don't know about that, there's tons of articles from news networks interviewing them because they were proclaiming their innocence - Some phoned from their embassy n Saudi Arabia etc

Link?

www.google.com :p

Seriously though, just google "9/11 hijackers stil alive" and then open each result in a different tab, theres tons.

I think I saw it originally in a documentary, think it was called "building 7, the smoking gun" or something along those lines.

This site is good as well - rethink911.org...

I like how engineers and architects have got together and are looking for answers, a lot of people think 9/11 truthers are all nutcase conspiracy theorists so its refreshing having a new angle

a reply to: Zenem


On Sept 14 2001 the FBI released a list of names with no photos:

www.fbi.gov...

The press took it upon themselves to go around fla flight schools and collect photos of people with close matching names and published them'. This is what caused the confusion.

On sept 28 the FBI released the final list of names with photos:

www.fbi.gov...

All of the articles saying the hijackers are still alive were published between these two dates. After sept 28 there are no more articles claiming the hijackers are still alive, Check for yourself. Show me if you find one.

The hijackers are dead, Not only are they merely dead ,they're really most sincerely dead.

originally posted by: waypastvne
a reply to: Zenem


On Sept 14 2001 the FBI released a list of names with no photos:

www.fbi.gov...

The press took it upon themselves to go around fla flight schools and collect photos of people with close matching names and published them'. This is what caused the confusion.

On sept 28 the FBI released the final list of names with photos:

www.fbi.gov...

All of the articles saying the hijackers are still alive were published between these two dates. After sept 28 there are no more articles claiming the hijackers are still alive, Check for yourself. Show me if you find one.

The hijackers are dead, Not only are they merely dead ,they're really most sincerely dead.

Ok thanks, will check it out

a reply to: Ridhya

There was no official story about WTC7 (well, not in the NIST report).

originally posted by: ForteanOrg
a reply to: Ridhya

There was no official story about WTC7 (well, not in the NIST report).

Yes there was

NIST WTC7

You give the OS'ers an inch and they will take a mile. What you just said likely got added to the list that includes no planes hit the towers and the OS'ers will hold the entire truther community responsible for it.

a reply to: MALBOSIA

I stand corrected, thank you!

a reply to: BestinShow

YOU are awesome.

a reply to: MALBOSIA

Just read a chunk of that report and found the explanation utterly unbelievable. The report clearly states that the temperature of the steel never reached the limits needed to damage the structural consistency of the beams (with an exception a small part in the Eastern part of the building). However, according to NiST the building still collapsed because the steel expanded and hence the structure was damaged after all.

If that were really true, no steel building would ever survive a fire. In almost all fires there are many spots that reach 600° C or more.

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
Good ole Don raced to the scene, rolled up his sleeves and got on with aiding the injured.

Where nobody could find him. As Secretary of Defense that would be abandoning your post, he should have been coordinating the military response instead of holding a bag of plasma. It seemed like everyone who might be critical to the response or as a potential high-profile victim who would have ordinarily been working inside the WTC was absent from work that day.
What are the odds of scheduling a golf outing for billionaires at Offut AFB on that very day?

originally posted by: ForteanOrg
a reply to: MALBOSIA

Just read a chunk of that report and found the explanation utterly unbelievable. The report clearly states that the temperature of the steel never reached the limits needed to damage the structural consistency of the beams (with an exception a small part in the Eastern part of the building). However, according to NiST the building still collapsed because the steel expanded and hence the structure was damaged after all.

If that were really true, no steel building would ever survive a fire. In almost all fires there are many spots that reach 600° C or more.

The report is total BS. Your right about that.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

I believe that the official 9/11 story is a flimsy, completely unlikely conspiracy theory. It has been force fed to us by thr government, the CIA, and their media agents.

The facts are shocking.

1. The highly suspicious pre-911 trading for UAL, AA, Morgan Stanley and others. The trades of "former" CIA executive Buzzy Kronard (spelling) is highly suspect.
2. The apparent Saudi financial backing of 9/11, which was covered up by the Bush administration through suppression of 28 pages of evidence in the official report. Also,the close bush ties to Saudi royalty.
3. The reams of warnings by foreign governments and intelligence agents that went unchecked.
4. The fact that never in the history of mankind have steel framed buildings fell, but somehow it happened three times on 9/11.
5. The testimony and video evidence of explosions and of a controlled demolition.
6. The highly suspicious pentagon flight.
7. The highly coincidental 9/11 NORAD training which took jets from New York and Washington, D.C.
8. The fact Bush and Chaney refused to testify on the record.
9. The coincidental missing $2.3 trillion and the crash into the area of the pentagon where the budget analysis were working.
10. The footprint of the crash into the pentagon was like that of a missile, not a 757. Doesn't match at all. No good and clear video of the crash, in spite of it being the most protected airspace in the world.

There is more.

Two Boeing 767's hit the tower. Force of impact removes/obliterates concrete casing on structural steel. Massive hole left in WTC buildings and the high winds at those heights turn the WTC's into a blast furnace. Molten Aluminum starts to pool and find its way to water sources causing explosions and total structural failure.

This is what happened. Why it happened is the real conspiracy.

You would have thought that as time recedes away from the this atrocity in 2001, the chances would have cumulatively increased that a single person (of the many hundreds, if not thousands), would have stepped forwards, confessed and provided evidence of a conspiracy. So far that has not happened, meaning the chance that is was a conspiracy is reducing, if it had any credence or credibility in the first place.

Even some of the posts in this thread are recycling fantasy. "Yeah, I believe it because it's a YouTube vid" mentality is a worrying trend.

Regards

originally posted by: canDarian
Two Boeing 767's hit the tower. Force of impact removes/obliterates concrete casing on structural steel. Massive hole left in WTC buildings and the high winds at those heights turn the WTC's into a blast furnace. Molten Aluminum starts to pool and find its way to water sources causing explosions and total structural failure.

This is what happened. Why it happened is the real conspiracy.

It sounds like you buy the official story, hook line and sinker.

In doing so you ignore previous incarnations of government evil like Northwoods. You blindly assume that those in power are good, and would never harm us.

Sorry, but the facts that I posted above should be enough to make every single man, woman, and child suspicious about the official story.

But, if it makes you feel better, continue to believe the lie. The truth is too awful to comprehend.

a reply to: paraphi

If this video had been on the History Channel or National Geographic would it be more credible to you?

a reply to: Jchristopher5

4. The fact that never in the history of mankind have steel framed buildings fell, but somehow it happened three times on 9/11.

The misinformed never stop.
Hint:
Firefighters will not enter a burning building (Walmart type) if it uses metal trusses for the roof.
They will shoot water from ladder trucks until the fire is out.

Clue:
Every single floor in WTC was made from metal trusses almost identical to Walmart roof trusses.

Tip:
The inner core steel of WTC could not rise 110 stories by itself without buckling due to the narrow footprint of the core.
The outer steel shell could not rise 110 stories by itself without buckling.
The floor trusses braced the core to the outer shell.

Didn't your dad get you an erector set when your were a kid?

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: Jchristopher5

4. The fact that never in the history of mankind have steel framed buildings fell, but somehow it happened three times on 9/11.

The misinformed never stop.
Hint:
Firefighters will not enter a burning building (Walmart type) if it uses metal trusses for the roof.
They will shoot water from ladder trucks until the fire is out.

Clue:
Every single floor in WTC was made from metal trusses almost identical to Walmart roof trusses.

Tip:
The inner core steel of WTC could not rise 110 stories by itself without buckling due to the narrow footprint of the core.
The outer steel shell could not rise 110 stories by itself without buckling.
The floor trusses braced the core to the outer shell.

Didn't your dad get you an erector set when your were a kid?

Many steel-framed skyscraper buildings have burned, sometimes with fires ranging for hours. Never, before or since that day, has a steel skyscraper fell as if being demolished, without being demolished. Yet, three times on that day, buildings fell into their own footprint. Building 7, of course, was not hit by a plane.

Steel melts at more than 2,500 degrees. Jet fuel burns at 1600 degrees approximately. These three buildings turning into molten steel, and collapsing into their own footprint, was a true miracle.

And a miracle that happened three times on 9/11/2001.