a reply to: Jchristopher5
1. It wasn't just a "White House" cover up. The majority of Senators and Congressmen did not want things to be examined too closely. There is a
forty year trail of dumb ass decisions made by our elected officials that contributed to that day. The problem was, the decisions at the time, were
made for what seemed to be the right reasons. An example, when the Soviet Union collapsed, the President and Congress cut certain areas of our
Defense...during the Cold War, at ALL times we had a MINIMUM of 48 armed, and on alert fighter aircraft to protect the continent. They cut that to
14...and also decommissioned other Cold War style aerial defenses that would have helped us on 9/11/01. It was a bad decision looking back, but at
the time, the money was used for OTHER programs...the so-called "Peace Dividend". Another example, during the Clinton years, Bill Clinton signed
orders that made our intelligence agencies only use foreign assets that were "nice" to people. In other words, we could only talk to "good' guys
that had not infringed on their citizens rights. Dumb decision because "Good" guys rarely have the information we need.....but "bad" guys tend to
cause embarrassment when it is found out by the public that we deal with them.
Think back to the aftermath of that day, for several months we heard how the President and the Vice President were in constant communication that day
and that our response, while tardy, was at least well-oiled. Glossed over was the fact that the reason why the President landed first in New Orleans
and then in Omaha, was that the communications from Air Force One were so bad that he literally had to land and use a landline to talk to Cheney.
Also glossed over, the HUGE communications upgrades made to the VC-25s as a direct result of that day.
Then, Jamie Gorelick, a 9/11 Commissioner, she worked in the Clinton Justice Department...where SHE issued the directives that prevented the Phoenix
Arizona FBI office from sharing information with other departments in the FBI that MIGHT have completely unraveled the plan prior to that day.
However, Ms. Gorelick was acting out of concern for the Civil Rights of the accused and keeping in line with Government directives dating back to the
early 70s and the fallout from CIA/FBI overreaches in the 50s and 60s.
We got caught with our pants down that day...mainly because of well-meaning decisions made by our elected officials over a period of a few decades.
And no one wanted a witch hunt that would have damaged the government for YEARS. So, we had an investigation, once that the Chief Counsel felt laid
out the facts and circumstances without causing severe damage at a time we could ill-afford it.
2. The money trail WAS investigated, and 90% of it, led to people like Khaled Sheikh Mohammed and Al Qaeda....it also led to some Saudis.
3. The FBI, collected 85 videos from that day, under FOIA, it was discovered that
, 56 "of these videotapes did not show either the Pentagon building, the Pentagon crash site, or the impact of Flight 77 into the Pentagon on
•Of the 29 remaining videotapes, 16 "did not show the Pentagon crash site and did not show the impact of Flight 77 into the Pentagon."
•Of the 13 remaining tapes which showed the Pentagon crash site, 12 "only showed after the impact of Flight 77."
For a copy of the FOIA response..
For years, "truthers" have been hunting for 85 total Pentagon videos that they think exist.....and the majority of them, have NOTHING to do with the
4. Nano thermite. Actually, the items that were found that led a certain former BYU professor to the conclusion that there was "nanothermite" were
materials found in EVERY steel framed high rise building. The majority of which are the byproducts of the WELDING done during construction.
5. FDNY testimony was not germaine to the Commission's charter. And, as ANY truthful firefighter will tell you there are explosions in EVERY mass
conflag fire like we saw that day it does not mean there are bombs present. Electrical panels explode, severed gas lines cause gas pockets that
explode, janitor closets are full of chemicals that explode.
Here are over 12,000 pages of oral histories from 503 members of the FDNY about that day.
Good luck finding any that actually say there were 'Bombs' that day....better yet, look those folks up in person and talk to them about the
(send us the hospital room you end up in so we can send flowers)
6. The early reporting of the collapse of WTC 7. Good luck finding a single historical event in the last forty years that the media HASN'T screwed
up. Examples: the shooting of President Reagan, first reported that the President was not hit. Then ABC News announced that Jim Brady had died, when
he was still alive and in surgery. CNN, came within FIVE SECONDS of telling the world that George Bush had died after he was publicly sick...all over
the Japanese Prime Minister.... The mining disaster several years ago, they first reported that 11 of the 12 miners had been found alive, only to
later report that 11 had been found dead.
Today's electronic media, in their haste to scoop the competition screw up all the damned time. Days like 9/11/01 are no different.....especially
when you add in the fact that the FDNY was saying all afternoon that they expected WTC 7 to collapse.
7. Molten metal...first two hundred and ten story towers covered in aluminum and full of a dozen or so other metals with low melting points found in a
molten state in the bottom of a still hot/burning debris pile getting plenty of fresh air from subway tunnels that were under the WTC. Big
surprise....but, lets look at this from the other side, IF thermite had been used, the metal it cut, would have been cool to the touch within hours.
Other explosives, would not have melted...and left the metals melted. Only a constant heat source (i.e. still burning fires ) would have kept the
As for Leslie Robertson, he never said that.
8. The 9/11 Commission Report being "underfunded". The FBI alone spent more money investigating 9/11 than ANYONE spent investigating Monica/Billy
Boy. That IT was delayed 411 days...is pretty much meaningless. The FBI, CIA, NSA, PAPD, NYPD, FDNY and a dozen other agencies started investigating
the day of 9/11/01. The 9/11 Commission, was to go through THEIR reports and compile the history. The Commission, was NOT to repeat the
efforts/investigations performed by other agencies.
Running out of characters...see part two