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i want to see the law come down hard on ferguson
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a reply to: OpinionatedB
i really hope you are right...otherwise you may just find yourself eating those words
I am not going to go around in redundant circles with you. It's bull what you say about if they implement martial law in a necessary situation that they will just simply do it everywhere for no good reason. That is being an extremist in your thought.
i really hope you are right...otherwise you may just find yourself eating those words
The apple doesn`t fall far from the tree,
based on the actions of Mr. and Mrs. brown I think it`s pretty obvious what type of character their son had.it makes the officer account of the incident that much more believable.
Due process has been served by the grand jury and as of Monday these protesters, rioters, looters, or whatever you want to call them are domestic terrorist and should be treated as such.
The grand jury has spoken this incident is officially over it`s time to start busting heads and locking people up.
based on the actions of Mr. and Mrs. brown I think it`s pretty obvious what type of character their son had.it makes the officer account of the incident that much more believable.
Due process has been served by the grand jury and as of Monday these protesters, rioters, looters, or whatever you want to call them are domestic terrorist and should be treated as such.
The grand jury has spoken this incident is officially over it`s time to start busting heads and locking people up.
a reply to: Grovit
I was monitoring most of that thread as it was happening but did miss the part about the father. I have varying views about the whole ordeal and generally tend not to discuss most of them here for obvious reasons.
I can say that I am disgusted by the father's actions. I am disgusted by all of the people taking advantage of the situation by destroying stuff and stealing whatever they can get their hands on. Anyone denying that there are people there doing just that... Are either blind or being deliberately obtuse IMO.
The government aren't the only people that do not allow a good crisis to go to waste. Some normal folks strive to live up to the same standard unfortunately.
Any message they were trying to convey to the rest of America is currently being swallowed up by all the news of the rioting, looting, etc. If anything people should be angry that it's happening like this and not trying to protect those that are tarnishing any hope of a useful message getting through to who it needs to. JMO of course.
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.
I was monitoring most of that thread as it was happening but did miss the part about the father. I have varying views about the whole ordeal and generally tend not to discuss most of them here for obvious reasons.
I can say that I am disgusted by the father's actions. I am disgusted by all of the people taking advantage of the situation by destroying stuff and stealing whatever they can get their hands on. Anyone denying that there are people there doing just that... Are either blind or being deliberately obtuse IMO.
The government aren't the only people that do not allow a good crisis to go to waste. Some normal folks strive to live up to the same standard unfortunately.
Any message they were trying to convey to the rest of America is currently being swallowed up by all the news of the rioting, looting, etc. If anything people should be angry that it's happening like this and not trying to protect those that are tarnishing any hope of a useful message getting through to who it needs to. JMO of course.
As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.
a reply to: Grovit
Okay, just checking.
I never said they should get a pass, ever. Can you not see the difficulty behind "people are responsible for their own actions" in a riot? If the police are to hold people accountable for their own actions, tell me how that works when they stand in place all day and night? Do you want a riot? Or do you want a riot met with equal force? Then who's to blame?
yes, the person who throws the first stone and the person who throws the last are both guilty..leader, follower, whatever.
Okay, just checking.
people are responsible for their own actions..
im sorry but the 'but it was a riot' does not mean they should get a pass...hell no
I never said they should get a pass, ever. Can you not see the difficulty behind "people are responsible for their own actions" in a riot? If the police are to hold people accountable for their own actions, tell me how that works when they stand in place all day and night? Do you want a riot? Or do you want a riot met with equal force? Then who's to blame?
The saddest thing about this whole event is that everyone expects these behaviors whenever African Americans protest.
It's terrible whenever any teenager dies.
However, the world sees the rioting on TV and thinks that his shooting was justified.... Just look at how African Americans behave.
Think about it
It's terrible whenever any teenager dies.
However, the world sees the rioting on TV and thinks that his shooting was justified.... Just look at how African Americans behave.
Think about it
a reply to: Wildbob77
They have indeed helped strengthen a common stereotype and unfortunately there are many caught in that stereotype that do not belong there. That's one of the main reasons this bothers me as much as it does. There are too many people watching what is happening and saying... "Yep... You see that? That's why they get shot. That's why this and that's why that." Yet the ones taking part in it seem not to care that they are making it harder on so many more.
It's unfair that there are those in the world who hold truck with such stereotypes of any kind, but the truth is... There are. And they are being fed some hearty meals lately. That alone makes me sick.
I wish there was a way that everyone there could pick up and leave and let those left be held solely accountable for what they have done. In a perfect world those people could afford to leave their jobs and their homes until only those out for themselves were caught, charged, and jailed to not only avoid being harmed themselves but also avoid being lumped in with such disgusting individuals. Unfortunately this isn't a perfect world and we should remember that there are folks there that would love to leave and be safe until all is said and done but lack the resources to do so.
I wish more would realize that and I wish those that were doing the looting/rioting would wake the hell up and quit perpetuating such a foul stereotype.
Sorry for going off on a tangent there WB. All of that certainly wasn't meant for you. I just got carried away. My apologies for that.
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.
They have indeed helped strengthen a common stereotype and unfortunately there are many caught in that stereotype that do not belong there. That's one of the main reasons this bothers me as much as it does. There are too many people watching what is happening and saying... "Yep... You see that? That's why they get shot. That's why this and that's why that." Yet the ones taking part in it seem not to care that they are making it harder on so many more.
It's unfair that there are those in the world who hold truck with such stereotypes of any kind, but the truth is... There are. And they are being fed some hearty meals lately. That alone makes me sick.
I wish there was a way that everyone there could pick up and leave and let those left be held solely accountable for what they have done. In a perfect world those people could afford to leave their jobs and their homes until only those out for themselves were caught, charged, and jailed to not only avoid being harmed themselves but also avoid being lumped in with such disgusting individuals. Unfortunately this isn't a perfect world and we should remember that there are folks there that would love to leave and be safe until all is said and done but lack the resources to do so.
I wish more would realize that and I wish those that were doing the looting/rioting would wake the hell up and quit perpetuating such a foul stereotype.
Sorry for going off on a tangent there WB. All of that certainly wasn't meant for you. I just got carried away. My apologies for that.
As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.
I haven't read all the pages on the threads about this incident, but i agree, these people need to be arrested. This is coming from a Londoner who had
to watch worthless scumbags loot and destroy lives and businesses in London 2 summers ago. I have ZERO sympathy for anyone taking part in anything
illegal in anyone's name (which is bull as they just want to loot and act like animals)
This includes smashing and grabbing and even just grabbing a bottle of water from a looted shop. Sorry bub, but most law abiding citizens would not be in that situation. We would head home and lock the doors.
That being said, i don't see this as a black thing and i hope this thread isn't a thinly veiled racist rant. We had just as many white people acting like mindless morons in London, it just so happens that you have a lot of Black people there...
As a new poster, but a very long time reader of ATS, i'm beginning to get a bit put off by the racist and anti Obama posts that are cropping up here more and more.
Either way, scumbags, every single one of these people, black or white.
This includes smashing and grabbing and even just grabbing a bottle of water from a looted shop. Sorry bub, but most law abiding citizens would not be in that situation. We would head home and lock the doors.
That being said, i don't see this as a black thing and i hope this thread isn't a thinly veiled racist rant. We had just as many white people acting like mindless morons in London, it just so happens that you have a lot of Black people there...
As a new poster, but a very long time reader of ATS, i'm beginning to get a bit put off by the racist and anti Obama posts that are cropping up here more and more.
Either way, scumbags, every single one of these people, black or white.
edit on 26-11-2014 by 3danimator2014 because: (no reason given)
originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Grovit
The grand jury should have chosen to indict and let due process play out.
These "protestors" are total pieces of garbage who deserve corporal punishment.
Even the peaceful ones? I smell garbage.
I suppose rioting/looting is the expected outcome of a cop controversially shooting a unarmed black man and not even going on trial for it.
I would be more angry if those anguished citizens decided to go home and just remain passive about the fact that the cop walked free without anyone batting an eyelid.
The moral of the story is that America has to stop having 2 justice systems for different people.
I would be more angry if those anguished citizens decided to go home and just remain passive about the fact that the cop walked free without anyone batting an eyelid.
The moral of the story is that America has to stop having 2 justice systems for different people.
a reply to: Grovit
Anyone doing illegal crap should face the long arm of the law.......Anyone legally peacefully protesting should be treated with respect. Truth be told the PTB want this to happen they want a riot so they can save the day with new laws and a larger police state.
Many of the people protesting could care less about this young man they are just itching for a fight. Young people from all over the county are fighting and crying for the very thing they say they hate. I hate the police state........let's be Communists.........Ironic stupidity are the only words that fit. They are actually helping out the other side and undermining themselves with mindsets like that.
Anyone doing illegal crap should face the long arm of the law.......Anyone legally peacefully protesting should be treated with respect. Truth be told the PTB want this to happen they want a riot so they can save the day with new laws and a larger police state.
Many of the people protesting could care less about this young man they are just itching for a fight. Young people from all over the county are fighting and crying for the very thing they say they hate. I hate the police state........let's be Communists.........Ironic stupidity are the only words that fit. They are actually helping out the other side and undermining themselves with mindsets like that.
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SubTruth because: (no reason given)
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a reply to: Grovit
Yes, let's bring big brother down on the people. Sure, let's bring on big brother 1984 style surveillance and go after people who feel tired of feeling oppressed, disenfranchised, cast aside.
Kinda odd for a site that for a great many people wanted this exact same scenario to play out all over the country. That everyone rise up against the oppressive government and their masters the corporations in the name of justice and freedom.
I wonder why so many on this site are against the people of Ferguson, for doing exactly what they themselves wish would have happened.
I wonder exactly what the difference between the people of Ferguson and the imagined revolution that so many dream of every day.
Yes, let's bring big brother down on the people. Sure, let's bring on big brother 1984 style surveillance and go after people who feel tired of feeling oppressed, disenfranchised, cast aside.
Kinda odd for a site that for a great many people wanted this exact same scenario to play out all over the country. That everyone rise up against the oppressive government and their masters the corporations in the name of justice and freedom.
I wonder why so many on this site are against the people of Ferguson, for doing exactly what they themselves wish would have happened.
I wonder exactly what the difference between the people of Ferguson and the imagined revolution that so many dream of every day.
originally posted by: bhliberal
Yes, let's bring big brother down on the people. Sure, let's bring on big brother 1984 style surveillance and go after people who feel tired of feeling oppressed, disenfranchised, cast aside.
yup.
big brother is there. lets put him to good use
i dont care what they feel and what theyre tired of.
i care about the lady who got her bakery ruined. the dude that own the store that got looted.
i dont care about the people that did the damage at all.
Getting tired of seeing young black Americans using any excuse to loot, destroy and attack, 90% of this has NOTHING to do with Mr Brown, a young man
of very questionable morals, involved in a robbery hours before being shot. All this is is a smoke screen to cover for the CRIMINAL behaviour.
We had the same in the UK when a GANGSTER was shot and killed by the Police, the guy was a known violent criminal involved with guns, suddenly when he's killed the youth who are mostly black start stealing, looting and destroying property which was arranged via the Blackberry network. Pretty much none of them had a clue about why it was going on or even knew about the bloke, they were just nasty little criminals taking advantage of a situation.
For the small percentage peacefully doing a protest for whatever most likely misguided reason there's a MASS of people simply committing criminal acts simply because its an easy time to do it..
Protestors my arse...
Getting fed up with this, a shoot on sight for looting should be in place..Too many youth think its simply ok to destroy and rob knowing the most they will get is a telling off or suspended sentence..
We had the same in the UK when a GANGSTER was shot and killed by the Police, the guy was a known violent criminal involved with guns, suddenly when he's killed the youth who are mostly black start stealing, looting and destroying property which was arranged via the Blackberry network. Pretty much none of them had a clue about why it was going on or even knew about the bloke, they were just nasty little criminals taking advantage of a situation.
For the small percentage peacefully doing a protest for whatever most likely misguided reason there's a MASS of people simply committing criminal acts simply because its an easy time to do it..
Protestors my arse...
Getting fed up with this, a shoot on sight for looting should be in place..Too many youth think its simply ok to destroy and rob knowing the most they will get is a telling off or suspended sentence..
edit on 28-11-2014 by Mclaneinc because: (no reason given)
originally posted by: 3u40r15m
And black people are just as tired of white people shooting unarmed citizens. But of course were all "Thugs"...
no, not all.
just the ones like brown that steal and rough up innocent people
just the ones that riot and loot
and btw
are black people tired of black people shooting black people, or is that ok?
a reply to: Grovit
Yes me too so when are they going to arrest the cop for murder and the other cops for preventing the course of justice by intimidating witnesses and playing games in Court like taking 2 months by bombarding the jury with irrelevant evidence.
i want to see the law come down hard on ferguson
Yes me too so when are they going to arrest the cop for murder and the other cops for preventing the course of justice by intimidating witnesses and playing games in Court like taking 2 months by bombarding the jury with irrelevant evidence.
a reply to: Grovit
All races kill each other. But black people seem to be targets for police and wanna be vigilantes. I don't agree with looting, but I understand why people do it and it's actually a pretty soft way to lash out. Isn't looting better than black people getting mad and going on shooting sprees in white neighborhoods? I think so.
The kid supposedly robbed a store, so a cop hunts him down and shoots him. After that hundreds if not thousands of people rob stores aka "Loot" and cops don't shoot anyone. I see something wrong with that.
All races kill each other. But black people seem to be targets for police and wanna be vigilantes. I don't agree with looting, but I understand why people do it and it's actually a pretty soft way to lash out. Isn't looting better than black people getting mad and going on shooting sprees in white neighborhoods? I think so.
The kid supposedly robbed a store, so a cop hunts him down and shoots him. After that hundreds if not thousands of people rob stores aka "Loot" and cops don't shoot anyone. I see something wrong with that.
originally posted by: 3u40r15m
a reply to: Mclaneinc
And black people are just as tired of white people shooting unarmed citizens. But of course were all "Thugs"...
Cheap cheap shot and you know it was..
I could have replied there's an awful lot of people people of all colours who are unarmed being shot by black teenagers at the moment but that is both true and as cheap as your shot..
Neither you or I know what happened with Mr Brown yet you instantly presume innocence....Blinkered attitude..
I'm sorry if I chose the word black for Ferguson, a 75%+ black area with a mostly black set of video's, I've watched the UK ans US video's and when I said "mostly black " it was because that was what was seen..
NOT ALL, MOSTLY..
And like it or not Black crime is a serious issue, or would you rather play the Eric Holder viewpoint and pretend its not happening..
Stop playing the victim and recognise there is a serious black crime issue in the US, just like there's a serious set of criminals running the US be they black or white....Time to be honest and not play cards...
edit on 28-11-2014 by Mclaneinc because: (no reason given)
When you hitch your protest wagon to a bunch of criminals and slackers it probably isn't going to go very far.
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