Ferguson Last Night - Smoke and Mirrors

Curious if anyone else has the same perspective I did watching coverage of Ferguson last night. Flame me if you wish, but this didn't seem like a good old fashioned riot. I mostly watched CNN, but kept an eye on MSNBC and Fox also.

Too me it smelled of false flag/staged event. First off the crowd was relatively small. It may have swelled a bit after the decision was announced, but not too large a number. They also seemed relatively diverse, with lots of vloggers, media, curious onlookers, etc. I'm relatively old and have seen many protests/riots in my years and from my perspective this looked to be a minor event in comparison.

Secondly, when things started getting "tense", the reporters were almost looking around for people in the vicinity. Crowd was very sparse and spread out. The biggest problem they seemed to have was the tear gas the police were using to control the "crowd"

Some things just seemed wrong. For instance, the unattended police car. I swear as I was watching, I saw a "rioter" smash the window on this car. He then moved away from the car, camera zoomed out a bit and there were police within 10 feet of the guy and they did nothing. And why was this car there. Almost feels like it was placed there to be a sacrificial lamb.

Looters pretty much were free to do what they wanted. A couple of times, there are news cameras in the stores as the looters did their thing. But no police protecting the properties. Most storefronts in the area were boarded up or protected to keep the looters away. A few were not.

As the coverage went on, a reporter on CNN was speaking and a woman came into the scene shouting "Smoke and Mirrors. Smoke and Mirrors" over and over. At that point I nodded my head and agreed with her completely. It all felt staged . The reporter did his best to ignore the woman.

Not saying there weren't many troublemakers out there that did significant damage and looting. I am also not saying that the police on scene were a part of this staging. They were doing their job as ordered. Just pointing out how I observed things and my gut reaction. With Sandy Hook, Boston Marathon, etc, we've all been made more self aware of these manipulations. Ferguson last night just didn't pass the smell test for me.

What say all of you?

a reply to: teslarocks

i say you messed up by watching cnn.
had you watched the live feeds from within the crowd, you would have seen a different picture.

oh well

everything was cool till about 10-15 minutes after the decision was announced. then it started popping off and you know what was the first 'event'?

mike browns dad telling he crows to 'burn this mother #er down'

i guess when the family asked for peaceful protest, they meant peaceful if they get what they want.

so, yeah

originally posted by: teslarocks
Too me it smelled of false flag/staged event.

Ridiculous.

Apparently you didn't pay any attention to the nearly 4 million tweets (not counting retweets) on Twitter, in a 6 hour period -- about 250,000 of which originated the epicenter in Ferguson according to geotagging trackers.

Not to mention the protest in many other cities.

Here's a pro-tip: use more than two sources.

I heard a bunch of the protesters that drove in had their cars torched so I guess they won't be back tonight. Karma!!

a reply to: Grovit

Yes a little twisted on my part watching main stream, but I like to see how they manipulate. I come to ATS to learn. I am sure I will be put in my place where appropriate.

a reply to: teslarocks

Bassem Masri, look at his stream on Ustream (next time it's up). That guy's gotten closer than any of the mainstream reporters and he's shown what the majority of Americans like to pretend doesn't exist.

a reply to: teslarocks

not even coming at you like that..
you should be able to get the real story from the news...fact is we cant. not anymore

if you would have seen those live feeds you would have seen a much different picture

originally posted by: Yeahkeepwatchingme
a reply to: teslarocks

Bassem Masri, look at his stream on Ustream (next time it's up). That guy's gotten closer than any of the mainstream reporters and he's shown what the majority of Americans like to pretend doesn't exist.

i watched his for several hours till his phone got stolen..
his feed was awesome but he is an idiot.

blaming the cops for the car getting torched....saying it was their fault cause they knew it was gonna get #ed up.

saying about 20 times 'i cant believe this' when they got hit with the gas even though they were told about 20 times to get out of the street.

awesome feed, dumb human

I saw the protests last night too. I also saw a press conference this am. A reporter noted that "last night'"she saw a lot of police around the police station and "a lot fewer just down the road."

Then she asked "Did the authorities let Ferguson burn"?

There was some murmur from the crowd in approval. I thought the authorities just let the rest of Ferguson burn.

But then when I was younger, the tactic of some riots I saw was to start fires and then drive off the responders with gunfire, which seemed to happening last night. I suppose though that they who started the fires could have been anyone, even agitators.

This am at that press conference Al Sharpton stated that the peaceful protest with dignity to appeal for change in police policy is welcome, the burners are not part of that. "They are with themselves."

Hope somebody starts a thread about that press conference, it was worth watching.

a reply to: teslarocks

I was watching live feed last night and the only part that truly looked like a riot to me was when a few hundred people took over I-44, stopping traffic completely. Couldn't help but to see shades of the L.A. riots with a truck driver stuck amidst a sea of people.
Everything else I saw was just a bunch of white hipster kids getting gassed. None of it looked overly violent. Everyone, including the police were mostly just standing around. I guess what they call riots these days is what used to be just a regular Saturday night where I grew up.

I guess the two things that I saw from watching the coverage was that On CNN Van Jones would be a good crisis actor. and letting the police car burn. now officially they said they let it burn because ammunition was in the car.

a reply to: teslarocks

Last night as I was going back and forth between channels...I saw some people dressed in all black from head to toe; and I remembered some riots in Seattle in 2012 where they appeared.

Perhaps... some of this was going on last night...(Black bloc)...

Link: en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: caladonea

I think that is close to what my thoughts are. Plants within the crowd that escalated things to a much higher level.

It wasn't a false flag, once it kicked off it seemed to grow fast.

I'm not going to defend looting, burning down/burglarising family businesses
but there was a few times last night especially early on that instigators could definitely
have lit the fuse, that along with the police tactics again, things could probably been handled a lot better.

If the officer is innocent, look at it this way, they could have threw him under the bus and made everyone happy but if it's all above board, they had to do what they had to do, which was let him off. If they had threw him under the bus would there still have been violence? I don't know.

It's a sad case all round, it's probably not over either.

this part of your False Flag ?

FERGUSON, Mo. (CBS St. Louis/AP) — The body of a black male was reportedly found near Canfield Green Apartments in Ferguson, the same complex where Michael Brown was fatally shot by officer Darren Wilson during an altercation Aug. 9.

KTVI-TV reports that the man, in his 20s, was shot to death and set on fire. KMOX has sent a reporter to the scene.

Source

a reply to: intrptr

I actually predicted this on November 21st.

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
My prediction may just come true.

When Ferguson burns, the people will cry out "Where were the police?" and they will respond "We were not wanted."

now National Guard presence is needed to maintain order in town

a reply to: teslarocks

When it comes to world events westren press isn't reablie.

I can confirm the national guard was on location before announcement. On the police scanners I heard 3 separate times of national guard taking over police locations but as the night went on the national guard was no where to be seen..... BUT in the aftermath today you see them all over the place in their white school buses.

If it wasn't a staged event why didn't the national guard post up on every corner to protect the businesses???

a reply to: Zaanny

Because people would cry "Martial Law!" I guarantee you that if the National Guard had intervened, there would be threads on ATS right now about how Ferguson was "Martial Law Training"