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originally posted by: signalfire
The problem isn't your 'basic human desire' which by the way, women don't have in such abundance, or seemingly insatiable need for. You don't see women spending good money on an endless supply of pictures of naked men...
Most women especially the young ones, have no clue what you're talking about. THEY'RE NOT WIRED LIKE THIS AND DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. Women have ~1/100th of the testosterone and thus sex drive that you do. While we may be dressing to attract attention (thank you Madison Avenue you f**ks) because we've been taught to, or worse yet, have little idea of what worth we may have beyond being 'attractive', the thing here is YOUR insistence that 'feminism' is to blame for the negative response you seem to be getting.
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: nerbot
To ogle is now a human male desire?
Why not make eye contact...
It works wonders...
Better than looks or money.
originally posted by: Thurisaz
a reply to: nerbot
Typical boob perving doesn't worry me.
I did get angry once when a friend of mine was staring at the lower part of my body. I had linen trousers on at the time and they were white and I always wear neutral underwear with white clothing so my underwear isn't seen through it because the linen fabric can be see through/sheer. Anyway, he was sitting in my lounge talking to me whilst his eyes were on that part of my body. I got so angry. I would rather have had him stare at my boobs.
I had female friend come over to my place and introduce me to one of her friends.
I was sitting on a pillow on the floor having lunch. I noticed that she kept diverting her gaze to my crotch area and gave her a somewhat annoyed questioning glance.
She pointed a finger and said "Ummmmm."
Turns out my fly was undone and I wasn't wearing underwear. The cow was getting out of the gate.
originally posted by: Attentionwandered
There IS a conspiracy here, we need to bring this to light. In one part of the world women are covered from head to toe, and heckled. In another, they are nearly butt naked and heckled.
Then here in this country they are bombarded with imagery telling them to dress a certain way, then they are heckled, and live in constant fear of being raped and beaten. Then men are stuck with this insane contradiction where we are attracted but don't want to make you uncomfortable.
What is this pervasive anxiety that we all have to live with!?!
Personally, I don't judge women by their clothes or bodies on a serious level. I am not even thinking sexual thoughts or having weird impulses, I just look, sometimes entirely by accident without even realizing what I am doing. Then it comes off as being some evil sex stare. What do we even do about this?
Sometimes it seems like women are worried about how they you look and at the same time soo paranoid about being attacked. This is a direct contradiction. Keep these two elements in balance women and don't take out your discomforts on innocent men. But at the same time, us men need to respect women and not heckle them or attack them. That is my proposed solution
originally posted by: corvuscorrax
Men are ignored for how much money they don't have. Each gender has their standards that more or less they are expected to adhere to.
I don't personally adhere to any male standard, but I am single for it.