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originally posted by: Oannes
The Serpent in the Garden was a Sumerian El named E.a/En.ki. Otherwise known as Prometheus, Ptah, Poseidon, Hephaestus etc. Half brother of En.lil/Yahweh. NOT Satan.
originally posted by: Septimus
The Rod of Asclepius may have been inspired by the Nehushtan yes, but that has nothing to do with this theory. It's also been suggested the Rod was inspired by the process of treatment of Dracunculus medinensis, or the wrapping up of a guinea worm around a stick. It's amazing what a little reading and research will do for you.
originally posted by: AgentShillington
You don't see that anywhere, so my guess is that the authors did no intend for that parallel to be made.
originally posted by: Abednego
originally posted by: AgentShillington
You don't see that anywhere, so my guess is that the authors did no intend for that parallel to be made.
The author did not intend for that parallel to be made; Jesus did. (those were his own words, according the gospel)
originally posted by: AgentShillington
originally posted by: Abednego
originally posted by: AgentShillington
So, if we were to connect Moses' Serpent with the Serpent of Eden, we would then be able to determine that Jesus is Satan, and I don't think that is the intention of the story, so I don't think that is what the authors were getting at.
As I was discussing with retconning, there is more evidence that the authors wanted to tie the serpent of Eden with Satan, than there is to suggest a tie with Jesus.
"He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years” Rev 20:2
“The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him” Rev 12:9
originally posted by: AgentShillington
a reply to: Abednego
I think you missed this the first time.
As I was discussing with retconning, there is more evidence that the authors wanted to tie the serpent of Eden with Satan, than there is to suggest a tie with Jesus.
"He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years” Rev 20:2
“The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him” Rev 12:9
Twice, St. John links Satan with the Serpent. This isn't even ambiguous. It is in plain language with no need for interpretation.
originally posted by: backcase
God told Moses to erect a crucifix with a snake on it and all who's eyes fall upon it will be given health.
4 From Mount Hor they set out by the way to the Red Sea, to go around the land of Edom. And the people became impatient on the way. 5 And the people spoke against God and against Moses, “Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? For there is no food and no water, and we loathe this worthless food.” 6 Then the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people, so that many people of Israel died. 7 And the people came to Moses and said, “We have sinned, for we have spoken against the Lord and against you. Pray to the Lord, that he take away the serpents from us.” So Moses prayed for the people. 8 And the Lord said to Moses, “Make a fiery serpent and set it on a pole, and everyone who is bitten, when he sees it, shall live.” 9 So Moses made a bronze[a] serpent and set it on a pole. And if a serpent bit anyone, he would look at the bronze serpent and live.
And as for you, ye meant evil against me; but God meant it for good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to save much people alive.