Ukraine war crimes (WARNING VERY GRAPHIC)

This is what the Nazi's from Kiev are doing and they want us to think that Mr Putin is the bogyman !

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The video got turned into a link so maybe someone would like to explain why before they switch it back again please ? The title does come with a warning and is OK with Youtube so what did I do wrong

East Ukraine is not invading Kiev and yet the people in the east of the Ukraine are being cut down like dogs and as far as I am concerned the sooner Russia crosses the border en-mass the better because these crimes need to stop and the international criminal courts are doing nothing apart from turning a blind eye.

The people blown to bits here are not in military uniforms and are not part of the resistance / rebels / terrorist group or what ever the Whitehouse spokes woman wants to call them today and was I to live in Russia then I would be out on the streets demanding Russia intervenes tomorrow and then moved on Kiev to bring swift justice to these Nazi thugs.

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I an going to have to call this one out.

I am not saying there is not something going on but this video is suspect on so many levels. I am am only 15 mins in so may change my mind but so far...

a reply to: VirusGuard

originally posted by: nonspecific
I an going to have to call this one out.

Are you saying the pictures are fakes ?

I really don't think so and if you had any valid points then lets hear them ?

Not saying there fake but I do question there validity in context?

There are some questionable points to be raised do you not think?

a reply to: VirusGuard

a reply to: VirusGuard

Oh look more token BS from Putin corps.

How about Russia withdraws from the borders of a sovereign nation it INVADED and loses the thirst for conquest. How about Crimea is given back to its rightful nation.

You do know that if Russia had not INVADED and CONQUERED parts of the Ukraine that there would not even be a video, let alone the silent war going thanks to Russian aggression.

It would be awesome if we could ever get definitive proof of who is really responsible for these events. The shock value tends to override critical thought in such matters. Either way it is indeed very sad all around.

I am not condoning military action but at 5.20 into this video the military man fires into the air to disperse a crowd(somethig I am not a fan of) then one of the protesters "falls down" and is apparently shot?


Please make this credible otherwise it will debase any argument we may have.

a reply to: nonspecific

Not saying there fake but I do question there validity in context?

I am all ears so why don't you try to explain what bits are out of context ?

Do you think the people in none military uniforms that were dead were in disguise or no one was bombing people in the city's or maybe the rebels were killing their own because I've come across that one before.

I've always thought the Ukrainian government are the aggressors in this, you don't see any news articles stating Russian army or forces are shelling residential areas or using military force against protestors...Okay you have the pro-Russian rebels but they're not the ones killing civilians, Ukrainian civilians I may add.

You should really look at This page for the rebels side, it's definately worth a look if you're willing to look at this from both sides and not take the typical "YOU'RE A RUSSIAN SYMPATHISER" westerner approach. Also has eye-witness accounts and pictures from the ground and some good articles.

I agree Russia have some of the blame for whats happened over there but Ukraine have just taken it to a whole different level, they know Russia can't attack them, what with the UN and the west backing Ukraine at the moment....

a reply to: tadaman
Russia as we all know has not invaded, its an American thing or did you not notice Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan or the undercover wars in Pakistan and Yemen ?

Some Germans after the end of WWII denied they knew anything about the work/death camps but they soon knew better when they were made to clear the bodies from the camps.

Just what part of the video is wrong or could you not bear to watch it

a reply to: VirusGuard

I thought the same, a troll or just hasn't thought it through. Hey at least Russia haven't just marched right in there with their army, tried to overthrow their government through civil wars, steal their resources, kill hundreds and thousands of civilians....Oh wait sorry that was the 'good guys'

a reply to: nonspecific

I am not condoning military action but at 5.20 into this video the military man fires into the air to disperse a crowd(somethig I am not a fan of) then one of the protesters "falls down" and is apparently shot?

Yes made me think too but I think it might had been someone else that shoot him that was not in view and they did show him again near the end but I would had expected more blood myself.

I could not be sure but well said and I will take another look at that bit myself and let you know if I could agree.

a reply to: conz1992

Okay you have the pro-Russian rebels but they're not the ones killing civilians

It's an excuse believe it or not that Kiev has used but it's about as good as the one we get on a daily bases from Israel about any child that gets killed by the IDF in Gaza is always a human shield.

The mask is dropping a little more each day but if we could only distract them a little longer, I know lets start a race war

a reply to: VirusGuard

So the same old crap.

Oh the US blah blah blah.

What ever the rest of the world, a part of or in its entirety does is irrelevant to Crimea not being part of the Ukraine. Russia now controls that part of the world where the Ukraine used to right? Then its conquest.

And just so you know my misinformed friend....interventionism ends once destabilization ends. The US has not erected a US flag with 51 stars on it over Iraq. Russia flys its flag over its new territory and has published maps reflecting its new land.

Did you honestly justify the invasion of the Ukraine because the US is engaged in western military dominance?
LOL

I dont care about the video. Flat out. It wouldnt exist if Russia had not tried to conquer the Ukraine. Do you think Russian bullets are made of cheese cake?

a reply to: tadaman

How about Crimea is given back to its rightful nation.

Why? So they can suffer the same fate as the civilians in Donbass?

a reply to: Flatcoat

BECAUSE its not part of Russia. Thats why.

Russia has the same right to "help out" there as the US had to "help out" in Iraq.

You people denounce American interventionism but you just JUSTIFIED Russian interventionism.

LOL

I just got to the end of the film.

Although I disagree with it on the whole I am emotionally destroyed at the end of it.

Peace love and happiness to all that watch this vid. It is not pleasant.

a reply to: VirusGuard

a reply to: tadaman

Oh. I see. F* the civilian casualties then.....

a reply to: tadaman

Russia has the same right to "help out" there as the US had to "help out" in Iraq.

You people denounce American interventionism but you just JUSTIFIED Russian interventionism.

Around half a million died in Iraq..zero died in Crimea. Explain to me the similarities then?

a reply to: Flatcoat

Oh the poor civilians. Thats it?

How about Russia ends their suffering by ENDING ITS AGGRESSION.

If it had not conquered part of the Ukraine everyone would be living like they were before the first RUSSIAN shot was fired.

Poor civilians indeed,