Darren Wilson may be part of the Ku Klux Klan

originally posted by: Onslaught2996
a reply to: Grovit

Your forgetting the part where Brown was fleeing.

Brown was killed a distance from Wilson and then turned around....why would someone flee and then turn around to attack?

The only answer would be that Brown turned around to give up...but was still shot.

So, you were there and know this as fact?

Or are you just speculating, while using your own special recipe of racism.

a reply to: macman

Ok. Got it. Shoot first ask later. I was just following orders sir! Seriously is that what LEOs are training for? Still, no one has addressed the fact that Officer Wilson was carrying a taser, so what is the point in being equipped with LTL weapons if you automatically reach for your firearm? Hell, even with the dogs, why do they shoot them? A taser would eliminate the threat with no loss of life.

originally posted by: macman

originally posted by: Onslaught2996
a reply to: Grovit

Your forgetting the part where Brown was fleeing.

Brown was killed a distance from Wilson and then turned around....why would someone flee and then turn around to attack?

The only answer would be that Brown turned around to give up...but was still shot.

So, you were there and know this as fact?

Or are you just speculating, while using your own special recipe of racism.

Were you? I was just speculating.

As all of Wilson's supporters are doing..they are speculating also. What makes my speculation less valid than theirs?

Mine makes more sense though...how does someone decide to flee only to turn around and attack? It makes more sense that Brown turned around to give up after attempting to flee.

a reply to: macman

Also what makes my reply racist?

a reply to: Grovit

So....because cops have to deal with racism, it's o.k for a cop to be racist?

a reply to: Witness2008

no..absolutely not..i never said that either...
its not ok.....its also not ok for citizens of the town to be racist....

in all these threads all we hear about is the racist cops....all i wanted to know was how large a percentage of the city do they think are racist.....not including the cops of course....

Poor baby Brown, he was just trying to throw the store clerk to the side so he could run to the nearest ATM to pay him for those cigars (which he smokes, without emptying and filling with other stuff). Then on his way to pick up the money from the ATM machine he went to go pick up his college application so he got a little side tracked.

Officer Wilson saw the black child and said to himself " A gentile black giant going to pick up college papers! We can't have that!) So the officer ran him off the road with his car, started calling him racial slurs while he was begging and pleading with the officer to show him directions to the administration building and then Wilson put on his white hood and started going on a shooting spree!

That's how it really went down...

originally posted by: macman

originally posted by: CagliostroTheGreat

originally posted by: Patriotsrevenge
a reply to: Onslaught2996

Your the coward for assuming he was not defending himself from a 300 pound guy.

Like I said earlier, if he can't to his job without killing unarmed teens he should find another job or train more and stop being such a craven. LEOs have LTL weapons for a reason, use them.

Do you work for Obama???

Nice political baiting btw...

WOW!!!! So, you have first hand experience int his realm. You know, being attacked while performing a job in LE.

The amount of armchair quarterbacks in this is pretty astonishing.

I bet you know military tactics also, since you have played some First Person Army games.

If British police can deal with unmarmed suspects without killing them then so can American cops.

Police are not soldiers

And they are not judge jury and executioner.

They are there to simply detain suspects until the courts decide what to do with them.


Lethal force should be used ONLY as a last resort if a suspect is armed and putting others in lethal danger.

If there is no weapon then there is no excuse for a gun, its useing unessary force.

Brown may have been a theif and he may have got violent but the police should have detained him and sent him to court, not summarly executed him.

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: macman

originally posted by: CagliostroTheGreat

originally posted by: Patriotsrevenge
a reply to: Onslaught2996

Your the coward for assuming he was not defending himself from a 300 pound guy.

Like I said earlier, if he can't to his job without killing unarmed teens he should find another job or train more and stop being such a craven. LEOs have LTL weapons for a reason, use them.

Do you work for Obama???

Nice political baiting btw...

WOW!!!! So, you have first hand experience int his realm. You know, being attacked while performing a job in LE.

The amount of armchair quarterbacks in this is pretty astonishing.

I bet you know military tactics also, since you have played some First Person Army games.

If British police can deal with unmarmed suspects without killing them then so can American cops.

Police are not soldiers

And they are not judge jury and executioner.

They are there to simply detain suspects until the courts decide what to do with them.


Lethal force should be used ONLY as a last resort if a suspect is armed and putting others in lethal danger.

If there is no weapon then there is no excuse for a gun, its useing unessary force.

Brown may have been a theif and he may have got violent but the police should have detained him and sent him to court, not summarly executed him.

To my recollection, the officer did try to detain him. It's not like he just saw him walking down the street and unceremoniously whipped out his gun and shot him. He shot him after he was assaulted by the 6 foot plus, 220 lb plus man. He was well within his rights and the law to defend himself against the physical attack.

How would you suggest he stop the criminal from beating the officer to death? Would you talk calmly to the man while he is beating you senseless suggesting some tea and crumpets to put things right? I know, maybe you could ask him politely to please stop clubbing you in the face with his fists as it is not a nice thing to do to someone? Once it reaches this stage, you have to get physical , he reached for the officers gun, what did he really expect was going to happen? Get invited over for a beer summit in the rose garden?

oh,m and as far as the "anon suggests darren wilson is...."

I suggest that Anon is a bunch of arm chair bullies that just like to incite drama because their daddies didnt hug them enough as children, proof to come later

a reply to: CagliostroTheGreat

A taser is not there to defend a LEO's life. It is there for non-combative people.

Brown attacked Wilson......Let me state this again.

Brown, attacked a uniformed police officer

He got shot for attacking a LEO.

Brown was a moron to have thought that would have ended in any other fashion.

Again..................

Brown attacked a uniformed police officer

a reply to: SM2

1) why was the police officer alone? He should have had a partner to back him up
2) are your police not trained to handle phyical attacks and defend themselfs with non lethal force?

Make all the dumb arse jokes you like about tea and crumpets it just makes you look like a fool and fails to awnser the queation and that is:

If police in the UK and other western country can restrain a violent but unarmed suspect without lethal force then why cant US cops?

Or are US cops just weak [snip]?

a reply to: Onslaught2996

Your whole post is speculating, with your racism on display.



Guess we will have to wait for the Grand Jury to release the decision on whether the evidence shows Brown was turning to attack again, after he already attacked once, or was giving up.

a reply to: Onslaught2996

If you can't see your racism seeping through, you can't be helped.

originally posted by: macman
a reply to: CagliostroTheGreat

A taser is not there to defend a LEO's life. It is there for non-combative people.

Brown attacked Wilson......Let me state this again.

Brown, attacked a uniformed police officer

He got shot for attacking a LEO.

Brown was a moron to have thought that would have ended in any other fashion.

Again..................

Brown attacked a uniformed police officer

Yet why can police is other countrys manage to detain suspects that attack without weapons with non lethal force?


The cop should have been trained to restrain brown and deliver him to court to stand trial for theft and attacking a officer of the law.

His punishment should have been conviction and a prison sentance not summary execution.

a reply to: crazyewok

There was no execution.


BROWN attacked a uniformed police officer. He was shot. No tears should be shed.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

originally posted by: crazyewok
Or are US cops just weak pussys?

Maybe the UK criminals are the weak ones and so the cops there have it easier and can be weak. Tough USA criminals need tough USA cops.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.

A 6ft 6 250lb + black guy in the UK is no diffrent to one in the USA.

Brown did not have a gun so that was not a factor.

Fact thebp police officer should have been capable of detaining a unarmed suspect.

a reply to: crazyewok

I have been a vocal person on the simple fact that LEO are not trained in hand to hand combat.
This is driven by many things. The Politically Correct grand-standers and pacifists will scream when a LEO goes hands on with someone and the ending result is a bloody mess.
The liability for going hands on is greater as well.
Most LE agencies still work off the moronic idea of an affirmative action style of staffing.
In my AZ academy class, we had a female that was about 4" nothing, weighed about 200lbs and was there solely to fill a quota for hiring. She couldn't do a single pull up, couldn't scale a wall. And I even got into it with our class Sergeant because she was not able to pull ANYONE to safety during recovery drills.

And you are right.....most LEOs have no training in physical combat. I would say about 80%. The 20% left over are Veterans that got it in the military.

And we have the militarization of the LE world as well, working against people.

But, at the end of the day, Brown attacked a police officer. He was shot. That is usually what happens when you attack an officer, or anyone.

Don't want to be shot??? Don't attack people.

a reply to: crazyewok

So, please show me, or anyone show me, where it is written that a LEO should take the physical attack from someone.
How about this. Don't attack LEO if you don't want to be shot.