Monsanto announced plans to sue Maui, Hawaii after voteres passed a moratorium on GMO

a reply to: Phage

They sell seeds, not food.

Sounds like Monsanto is sellin' food to me..

originally posted by: derfreebie

Hell I don't think anybody wants to physically bust them up:
I sure don't. I want to expose them all and throw away d'key.

I don't know about that, I'm close to the 'off with their head' point now. Mostly I pity them but wjem they, the coporate elite, are hell-bent on destruction, well.... And that is my ignorance that makes me think in that manner. Practise, practise, practise....

a reply to: dusty1
Nope.
They sell seeds to farmers who turn them into food.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: jrod

Monsanto understands that if they can control the food production, they control the population.

They don't control food production. They sell a product that farmers like to buy.

Keep telling yourself that, maybe even you will come to believe it. The big agro companies behave like street level drug dealers giving 'the first one free'. They promise big profits to the farmers and hook them into a system they can't get out of. Debt slavery I believe is the term.

Nope. They sell seeds to farmers who turn them into food.

a reply to: Phage


Yep.

These videos produced by Monsanto are designed for consumers not farmers.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: jrod

Monsanto understands that if they can control the food production, they control the population.

They don't control food production. They sell a product that farmers like to buy.

Keep telling yourself that, maybe even you will come to believe it. The big agro companies behave like street level drug dealers giving 'the first one free'. They promise big profits to the farmers and hook them into a system they can't get out of. Debt slavery I believe is the term.

a reply to: FyreByrd

They promise big profits to the farmers and hook them into a system they can't get out of.

They promise big profits? Are you a farmer? Have they made those promises to you? Or, do they sell a product that farmers find actually does increase productivity?

One farmer responded, "Just as you have the choice on what seeds to purchase from your favorite garden store, we have the choice on what we want to buy from our favorite seed salesman." But farmers don't only feel like they have a choice, they are happy that they have a choice. One farmer told me, "I feel it's important that we have a choice in the seed we choose because not every system or seed type is a fit for every operation". There is no one solution fits all when it comes to seed.

"Very simply, I choose my seed based upon the best variety for my conditions that we farm. I choose to use GM seed because it works for me, not because I don't have other choices"

www.huffingtonpost.com...

a reply to: dusty1

These videos produced by Monsanto are designed for consumers not farmers.

Did you miss the part about "we're working with farmers?" I missed the part about "Monsanto tortillas." Monsanto does not sell food.

Those videos are designed to fight the misinformation about GM crops. They are not to sell food or GM seeds.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Phage

That depends on the scale of the operation. Traditional practices don't scale up to millions of acres. But yes, Monsanto is interested in "traditional" markets as well. Working on varieties that organic farmers will want to buy. www.wired.com...

interesting link... thx for that i did not know monsanto were expanding into organic food farms...

so from that i take that monsanto are evil but not for the purpose of killing the human race...more like they are just profit driven like every other business out there...it is not their aim to destroy,they just happen to be in the growing food business so they are viewed as having a motive to destroy life.....

And why do big business interests buy up little companys - to shut them down and supress their, often, superior products and services. Happens all the time.

originally posted by: Sabiduria
a reply to: Phage

Still better than the U.S where the citizens who vote for their president are just wasting their time because their vote doesn't determine the outcome at all.

Well, it is questionable.... Money seems to elect people not WE THE PEOPLE.

a reply to: Phage

Did you miss the part about "we're working with farmers?" I missed the part about "Monsanto tortillas." Monsanto does not sell food.

Nobody would by Monsanto Tortillas.


You are splitting hairs and playing word games.




Monsanto Hawaii

What We Do:

Among other things, by developing new varieties of plants that are, for instance, protected against certain insects, more resistant to diseases, able to better tolerate drought or help provide better nutrition.

We’re active in Hawaii’s larger agricultural community, and support important initiatives that promote sustainable local farming, protect farmers and ranchers from theft and other crimes, and encourage Hawaii’s future ag leaders through education

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Monsanto is indeed developing, selling, promoting, and protecting it's product, so that it will be eaten as food.

a reply to: dusty1

Monsanto is indeed developing, selling, promoting, and protecting it's product, so that it will be eaten as food.

Monsanto does not sell food. They sell seeds. Those seeds are not food. Farmers who choose to buy those seeds grow them into plants which produce food.

We’re active in Hawaii’s larger agricultural community, and support important initiatives that promote sustainable local farming, protect farmers and ranchers from theft and other crimes, and encourage Hawaii’s future ag leaders through education

Nothing there about Monsanto selling food.

originally posted by: FyreByrd

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Phage

That depends on the scale of the operation. Traditional practices don't scale up to millions of acres. But yes, Monsanto is interested in "traditional" markets as well. Working on varieties that organic farmers will want to buy. www.wired.com...

interesting link... thx for that i did not know monsanto were expanding into organic food farms...

so from that i take that monsanto are evil but not for the purpose of killing the human race...more like they are just profit driven like every other business out there...it is not their aim to destroy,they just happen to be in the growing food business so they are viewed as having a motive to destroy life.....

And why do big business interests buy up little companys - to shut them down and supress their, often, superior products and services. Happens all the time.

yes it does....this it what is wrong with a "money rules" system

a reply to: Sabiduria

This is a company that refuses to do long term tests to see if their products are actually harmful and will only run short term tests. Gee, I wonder why.

i have no dispute here ....monsanto have poor business practices and care not who or what they harm in the process of making money......the stuff they make is horrible....but if they were to shut down they would be taken over by another corporation who would continue to make the poisons under a different name

a reply to: Phage

Are you a farmer? Do you know anyone who actually farms?

The farmers I have met are all against Monsanto and their power grab. Only 'farmers' on Monsanto's payroll will tell you how good their crops are.

Let's not forget Monsanto is also the same company that makes Agent Orange and now there are Agent Orange resistant plants they have created. In other words, they are using Agent Orange as a pesticide and then we the consumer are consuming products that have been treated with Agent Orange.

That is reality buddy!

a reply to: jrod

Let's not forget Monsanto is also the same company that makes Agent Orange and now there are Agent Orange resistant plants they have created.

No one makes Agent Orange any more. And there are no GM crops which are resistant to it.

In other words, they are using Agent Orange as a pesticide

No, they aren't.

That is reality buddy!

The misinformation runs deep in you.

a reply to: Phage

Yes they are, at least Dow is. They just call it 2,4 D resistant crops because they realize Agent orange resistant crops is a name that will not sell.

www.cornucopia.org...
www.foodrenegade.com...

Phage, you should consider in applying to Monsanto's ministry of truth.

a reply to: jrod
2,4 D is not Agent Orange. I use 2,4 D in my yard.
Calling it Agent Orange is a typical misinformation ploy, one that you fell for.

a reply to: Phage

Agent Orange, the stuff the USA used in Vietnam and South America contains 2,4-d AND 2,4,5-t in equal parts.

Again you like to twist words around to make an 'activist' such as myself look wrong. Technically you are right that is not Agent Orange, just half Agent Orange.

Regardless, it poses significant health risks:

Because Agent Orange has been around for a while, we’ve got a lot of data on the safety of 2,4-D.

Unfortunately, it’s been linked to hormone imbalances, nervous system damage, reduced immunity, and reproductive problems.

Aside from its harmful endocrine and carcinogenic effects, 2,4-D is a very volatile herbicide, which can easily drift onto nearby crops, vegetables and flowers. In fact, a comparative risk assessment found that 2,4-D was 400 times more likely to cause non-target plant injury than glyphosate (also known as Roundup, the herbicide many currently used GE crops are engineered to survive.)

Source:www.panna.org...

a reply to: jrod

Agent Orange, the stuff the USA used in Vietnam and South America contains 2,4-d AND 2,4,5-t in equal parts.

You failed to mention that Agent Orange also contained a dioxin. That's the 2,4, 5 T part.
2,4 D is not Agent Orange, not even close.