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a reply to: Grovit

Except Rosa Parks refusal to give up her seat was a planned protest, backed by a civil rights group.

It was a planned protest with intent to get media coverage and attention. Which it did.

I don't know about the others.

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Grovit

Except Rosa Parks refusal to give up her seat was a planned protest, backed by a civil rights group.

It was a planned protest with intent to get media coverage and attention. Which it did.

no it wasnt...
the protest was a different event that happened after.
it was the boycott.....

either way, giving up your seat and protesting does not make a hero in my book

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On the night of Rosa Parks' arrest, the Women's Political Council, led by Jo Ann Robinson, printed and circulated a flyer[19] throughout Montgomery's black community that read as follows:

Another woman has been arrested and thrown in jail because she refused to get up out of her seat on the bus for a white person to sit down. It is the second time since the Claudette Colvin case that a Negro woman has been arrested for the same thing. This has to be stopped. Negroes have rights too, for if Negroes did not ride the buses, they could not operate. Three-fourths of the riders are Negro, yet we are arrested, or have to stand over empty seats. If we do not do something to stop these arrests, they will continue. The next time it may be you, or your daughter, or mother. This woman's case will come up on Monday. We are, therefore, asking every Negro to stay off the buses Monday in protest of the arrest and trial. Don't ride the buses to work, to town, to school, or anywhere on Monday. You can afford to stay out of school for one day if you have no other way to go except by bus. You can also afford to stay out of town for one day. If you work, take a cab, or walk. But please, children and grown-ups, don't ride the bus at all on Monday. Please stay off all buses Monday.[18]

The next morning there was a meeting led by the new MIA head, King, where a group of 16 to 18 people gathered at the Mt. Zion AME Zion Church to discuss boycott strategies. At that time Rosa Parks was introduced but not asked to speak, despite a standing ovation and calls from the crowd for her to speak; when she asked if she should say something, the reply was, "Why, you've said enough."[20] A citywide boycott of public transit was proposed to demand a fixed dividing line for the segregated sections of the buses. Such a line would have meant that if the white section of the bus was oversubscribed, whites would have to stand; blacks would not be forced to give up their seats to whites

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

obama IS a hero to the muslims-for all of the destruction he has done to the U.S....

originally posted by: Grovit
either way, giving up your seat and protesting does not make a hero in my book

THEN? AND THERE????? C'mon man. Alabama in the 50's? That took balls. Yeah, that's a hero man.

a reply to: Annee

Kind of like in my city.

When certain groups don't get something that they are not entitled to or haven't earned-they pull out the "I am a man" signs for the news cameras.

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Grovit
either way, giving up your seat and protesting does not make a hero in my book

THEN? AND THERE????? C'mon man. Alabama in the 50's? That took balls. Yeah, that's a hero man.

i know it took balls. i said as much. i said it was awesome...i said she was a great advocate for civil rights...

still dont make her a hero in my book.

that term gets tossed around over and over again...

i guess i can see someone like gandhi being called a hero.
spending his life practicing non violent resistance/protest, even when getting physically beaten and put in prison on more than one occasion...
that is not even in the same realm as not moving out of your seat on the bus....

just one example would be the salt march

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Gandhi then launched a new Satyagraha against the tax on salt in March 1930. This was highlighted by the famous Salt March to Dandi from 12 March to 6 April, where he marched 388 kilometres (241 mi) from Ahmedabad to Dandi, Gujarat to make salt himself. Thousands of Indians joined him on this march to the sea. This campaign was one of his most successful at upsetting British hold on India; Britain responded by imprisoning over 60,000 people

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dude walked 241 miles.....

originally posted by: Grovit

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Grovit

Except Rosa Parks refusal to give up her seat was a planned protest, backed by a civil rights group.

It was a planned protest with intent to get media coverage and attention. Which it did.

no it wasnt...
the protest was a different event that happened after.
it was the boycott.....

either way, giving up your seat and protesting does not make a hero in my book

Guess it depends on who you listen to.

Got my info from a radio interview with a black civil rights leader. Guess he could have been lying or embellishing.

However, she really did nothing to follow it up, as far as I know. Even suing for using her name in a song (OK, they did not get permission), but still.

originally posted by: Annee


Guess it depends on who you listen to.

Got my info from a radio interview with a black civil rights leader. Guess he could have been lying or embellishing.

However, she really did nothing to follow it up, as far as I know. Even suing for using her name in a song (OK, they did not get permission), but still.

i got my info from the wiki
either way...makes little difference on her hero status to me...planned or not

a reply to: Grovit

Let's not run in circles then. What qualifies as a hero?

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: Grovit

Let's not run in circles then. What qualifies as a hero?

i already said i do not have an example...i would really have to think about it....
off the top of my head i would say someone like gandhi would be in the running....

i would really have to sit down and think about it....it would have to be someone like that though for me...
people say einstein....

he was a brilliant scientist...that cant be argued....one of the smartest people that ever lived.

in my book though revolutionizing a field of study does not make you a hero....

mandela maybe....
i will get back to you if i come up with someone

a reply to: Grovit

How about?

Terrance Stanley "Terry" Fox CC OD (July 28, 1958 – June 28, 1981) was a Canadian athlete, humanitarian, and cancer research activist. In 1980, with one leg having been amputated, he embarked on a cross-Canada run to raise money and awareness for cancer research. Although the spread of his cancer eventually forced him to end his quest after 143 days and 5,373 kilometres (3,339 mi), and ultimately cost him his life, his efforts resulted in a lasting, worldwide legacy. The annual Terry Fox Run, first held in 1981, has grown to involve millions of participants in over 60 countries and is now the world's largest one-day fundraiser for cancer research; over C$600 million has been raised in his name.

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gahndi...mandela....maybe this dude
en.wikipedia.org...

the burning monk....

that is more in the ball park

a reply to: intrepid

thats getting there...

honestly i dont think i would call anyone a hero unless they gave their life directly to save others....that is a heroic deed.

the guy you linked though......that is getting there....dude ran 3k miles...

originally posted by: Grovit
the guy you linked though......that is getting there....dude ran 3k miles...

With one leg. Dying of cancer. I've been to the site where he had to stop. Beautiful memorial.

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Grovit
the guy you linked though......that is getting there....dude ran 3k miles...

With one leg. Dying of cancer. I've been to the site where he had to stop. Beautiful memorial.

yeah...thats serious #....

im not really trying to be a prick about it..i just dont see a lot of these people and their deeds as being anything heroic.

inspiring....sure
role models...sure
hero though.....i dont think so...

everyone on this board would take a bullet for their spouse and kids....

the person that takes a bullet so a stranger can live....that is a heroic deed...
see what i am getting at?
gahndi devoted his entire life to non violent resistance. he was beaten many times. he was jailed many times and he kept up the fight.....
someone like that is where i would lean if i had to label a hero.

i would label rosa parks as an inspiration...a role model...something like that.

originally posted by: Grovit
honestly i dont think i would call anyone a hero unless they gave their life directly to save others....that is a heroic deed.

Terry Fox killed himself to raise awareness.

He was told before, and during, that the strain on his body would most likely kill him.

He did it any way.

originally posted by: Grovit

originally posted by: Annee


Guess it depends on who you listen to.

Got my info from a radio interview with a black civil rights leader. Guess he could have been lying or embellishing.

However, she really did nothing to follow it up, as far as I know. Even suing for using her name in a song (OK, they did not get permission), but still.

i got my info from the wiki
either way...makes little difference on her hero status to me...planned or not

I agree.

As I stated about Malala. It's not that she got shot, it's how she's handked herself afterwards.

originally posted by: peck420

originally posted by: Grovit
honestly i dont think i would call anyone a hero unless they gave their life directly to save others....that is a heroic deed.

Terry Fox killed himself to raise awareness.

He was told before, and during, that the strain on his body would most likely kill him.

He did it any way.

The Terry Fox Run itself(let alone the foundation), now in 60 countries, has raised over $600M since it's inception for cancer research. I think it's fair to say that some are alive today because of what Terry did.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Asktheanimals

This idea is beautiful in its simplicity.

Thanks. Another way would be to hang mirrors and paint superhero costumes except for the face so when kids look at the mirror they see themselves dressed as their favorite superhero.