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originally posted by: Spruce
They don't fight for our freedom anymore. They fight for everyone BUT us. Afghanistan and Iraq were about freedom for those countries, not us. None of the wars we've fought in recent decades were about us.
originally posted by: Irishhaf
For those implying that vets don't understand or know how they are being used... That's pretty insulting, I understand exactly I chose to use them as they used me, to further my life goals.
I don't regret joining at all, life experiences, and places I've seen I never would have seen other wise.
I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902–1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.
originally posted by: AgentShillington
Stop voting for Democrats and Republicans.
They are fully owned by Corporate America. Only vote for those that don't take corporate money. They are out there and gain more support every cycle. Jill Stein got over 1% of the popular vote last presidential election. (The most successful female presidential candidate ever, btw.) Sure, she's Green Party, and that might ruffle the conservative types, but I think Gary Johnson ran on a Libertarian ticket. And while Im not sure if Johnson took corporate contributions, anything is better than the GOP and Dems.
originally posted by: AuranVector
No truly independent candidate will be allowed to win a national election. If ever a non-Dem or non-GOP candidate wins a national election, you can bet he (or she) has been taken over by the Elite. Look at what happened to the Tea Party. When they looked like they might become powerful, the Koch Bros showed up.
I like the Libertarian ideals (social liberal, fiscal conservative, minimal government), but I would not want the Libertarians to take over the country -- their ideals are completely out of touch with reality. It's basically a "Back to 1820" movement. A pure "laissez-faire" Capitalism is too brutal. An Isolationist USA with a minimal military is too dangerous. Red China would love to be the next great No. 1 Superpower in the world. I would not want to live in that world.
A truly independent presidential candidate would be destroyed -- one way or another. The last candidate I believed in was Ross Perot and the mainstream media turned him into a national laughingstock. Perot finally left the race when his family became the target.
TPTB will choose the two presidential candidates who have any real chance of carrying the nation. You can bet TPTB own both of them. They own the media. We get to choose between Bad & Worse. Or we can throw our votes away on someone who CANNOT win. Or we can stay at home to pout.
originally posted by: AgentShillington
originally posted by: AuranVector
No truly independent candidate will be allowed to win a national election. If ever a non-Dem or non-GOP candidate wins a national election, you can bet he (or she) has been taken over by the Elite. Look at what happened to the Tea Party. When they looked like they might become powerful, the Koch Bros showed up.
You make a statement and then hold it hostage with a "No True Scotsman" fallacy. The only reason a non-Dem or non-GOP hasn't won is because people aren't voting for them. That's it. That's the reason.
AuranVector: I like the Libertarian ideals (social liberal, fiscal conservative, minimal government), but I would not want the Libertarians to take over the country -- their ideals are completely out of touch with reality. It's basically a "Back to 1820" movement. A pure "laissez-faire" Capitalism is too brutal. An Isolationist USA with a minimal military is too dangerous. Red China would love to be the next great No. 1 Superpower in the world. I would not want to live in that world.
AuranVector: A truly independent presidential candidate would be destroyed -- one way or another. The last candidate I believed in was Ross Perot and the mainstream media turned him into a national laughingstock. Perot finally left the race when his family became the target.
TPTB will choose the two presidential candidates who have any real chance of carrying the nation. You can bet TPTB own both of them. They own the media. We get to choose between Bad & Worse. Or we can throw our votes away on someone who CANNOT win. Or we can stay at home to pout.
originally posted by: AVoiceOfReason
i dont know. but after that lawsuit i cant support jessie anymore. thats a bitch move that i would expect some middle aged woman with a #ty life to pull.
originally posted by: DarthFazer
Jesse can get in a wrestling ring and pull fake punches but when he gets punched in the face he sues a widow. Suing a dead seal mind you , by an ex frogman .