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Psychohistorical Research- predicting 2016 via 2008- with a focus on the democrats via hillary clint

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posted on Nov, 12 2014 @ 04:11 PM

Any government will work if authority and responsibility are equal and coordinate. This does not insure “good” government; it simply insures that it will work. But such governments are rare--most people want to run things but want no part of the blame. This used to be called the “backseat-driver syndrome.”

Lazurus Long, Time Enough for Love

How yall doing, pull up a chair and take a gander

I am doing pretty good

Right now I have Three projects rolling

Lets get to the beef of this

Can we predict what is going on in the Democratic party in 2016, while we sit in 2014 with data from 2008

I believe we can

Heres what it requires from you the Reader
I am going to need feedback and suggestions
You cant get mad if it seems to be dismissed
I will have to account for POV's
I need patience

Heres what I offer
an insight into 2016
a model of what will happen

We have to turn the hands of time back to 2008
The Democratic party

Had a list of runners for the office

I wish to focus on Hillary R Clinton's run

We will use what happened to her as the basis of the model

1)We will focus on her life to build up a good psych profile
Key events

Keep in mind we do not have direct access to the main subject

2) we will then walk through the key points of the election

Planning stage
to loss at the DNC

3) then we walk through post loss

key events

we should have a good idea of what is going on right now

4) We attempt to establish the future

What is going on
who is who

I hope these steps are easy enough to understand and please bear with me
the fun part is that you will want to remember the title

This will cause a few issues because some people will not be to happy

I am using wikipedia, amazon, and maybe a third source
The sources to your surprise are not important
yes, the source doesnt mater

The reason is simple
Fox and CNN can twist the information all they want

When you cut it down to the meat and bones the BS washes out..

Hell I could use the Onion as a source and guess what, our model WILL work

Because of how we are treating the data
I am drawing on the Remote viewing training as an inspiration for the cut through the BS..

All righty then lets get started
Liberals and Conservatives please pick apart anything you wish to..

You support is appreciated
You might get an idea of what is going on

To the fact mobile, start the BS burners.. Lets roll out

posted on Nov, 12 2014 @ 04:35 PM
a reply to: ripcontrol


The human race is not large enough for psychohistorical principals to apply and the time frame which you are suggesting is smaller than any margin of error.

You probably should mention Isaac Asimov somewhere in there too just for copyright purposes.

Also, Hari Seldon ultimately disclosed that psychohistorical analysis was fictional even in his fictional universe.


edit on 12-11-2014 by greencmp because: (no reason given)

posted on Nov, 12 2014 @ 04:37 PM

I felt the song was appropriate

Hillary from wikipedia

Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton (/ˈhɪləri daɪˈæn ˈrɒdəm ˈklɪntən/; born October 26, 1947) is a former United States Secretary of State, U.S. Senator, and First Lady of the United States. From 2009 to 2013, she was the 67th Secretary of State, serving under President Barack Obama. She previously represented New York in the U.S. Senate (2001 to 2009). Before that, as the wife of President Bill Clinton, she was First Lady from 1993 to 2001. In the 2008 election, Clinton was a leading candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination.

The first thing we need to do is start

Hillary Diane Rodham[nb 2] was born at Edgewater Hospital in Chicago, Illinois.[1][2] She was raised in a United Methodist family, first in Chicago and then, from the age of three, in suburban Park Ridge, Illinois.[3] Her father, Hugh Ellsworth Rodham (1911–1993), was of Welsh and English descent;[4] he managed a successful small business in the textile industry.[5] Her mother, Dorothy Emma Howell (1919–2011), was a homemaker of English, Scottish, French Canadian, French, and Welsh descent.[4][6] Hillary grew up with two younger brothers, Hugh and Tony.

1) born
(no bad jokes that she was hatched in lab.. you will lose points, but it is funny)


time period

c)to who

d)economic level
experience formats

We do this to the Pre-teen level
Puberty is an emotional time

Next we will be forced to make educated guesses based on the present to see if we can find out post teens

1) Hillary Rodham was born October 26, 1947

Truman was President
Cold War with Russia was going strong after he betrayed the allies
The US had just one WW2
Roswell had happened

Please if you add to this point
then the data

I hope you contribute
it may mean less then .001 % but that crap adds up as we progress unless a simpler point wipes it

posted on Nov, 12 2014 @ 04:40 PM
a reply to: greencmp

What you said

Nerd on time

but I am field testing what I have

Its not to small a set

thats the beauty
You account for it

You see we already
know the out come of the event
We know successive events

so we can begin infering material and point

I just need help keeping me honest


posted on Nov, 12 2014 @ 04:58 PM

originally posted by: ripcontrol
a reply to: greencmp

What you said

Nerd on time

but I am field testing what I have

Its not to small a set

thats the beauty
You account for it

You see we already
know the out come of the event
We know successive events

so we can begin infering material and point

I just need help keeping me honest


If Trantor falls and we don't have a colony on Terminus, we could find ourselves under the control of the Mule.

posted on Nov, 12 2014 @ 05:27 PM
Out the gate

we hit our first reference point

What do we know
What does it mean

Hillary D. R. clinton was born
(please no histronics none are implied)

1)what is born
Two adults (at this time period) had intercourse
Offspring where concieved
Offspring was hatched

Your probably duh

Well a lot went into duh

First very important point
Observer effect disambiguation

Sum up we interact with the subject just by observing

1) born to homospaiens
2) in a city
3) in a hospital
4)reading this in english

I could go on but a lot is indicated by these very statements
We have a lot of crap just from this
1)mother is a mammal
no proof on father but such experiments not aware of at the time
Assume that father was homosapien due to sterility of crossbreds in humans
(note smal percentage chance will call 1% not human doent matter per numbers)

carried child sucessfully
No visible deformities-

indicates semi healthy diet
(enough for healthy offspring)
lived in area where food and supplies allowed for birth of children

Means father was healthy specimen to replicate

Parents had not deformities to interrupt in breeding selections

So from born
Homo Sapien - species designation

in stable tribe(USA)

Resources present

We get a lot of damn noise so we have to break this down and clean up

Sample point
Pre-existing conditions
universe, galaxy, solar system, planet, life requirements, species introduction
, cells, predation, sexual replication, mammals, group organizations (tribes), primates, Language, Homo Sapiens, cities, states, governments, USA,

This also gives us the existinance
Natural Selection mechanisims
Human mating rituals (will play a role late in subject life)
Scarcity of Resources

I skipped a few things but we have the numbers

This is what her being born implied just out of the gate

Hillary Clinton was born gives a lot of traceable points

now I have to stop for the day due to a personal time limit I have placed on this thread
TBC in the morrow

keep notes

We are only at Born

posted on Nov, 12 2014 @ 05:40 PM
Screw this I have little patience

I have shown the building steps to get to the main title

I have violated a rule and not kept is simple

In 2008

Hillary clinton lost the Primaries at the DNC

Obama had less delegates but more Super Delegates

He beat her
She was partially broke

So in 2016 we will see Hillary manuevering first with the Superdelegates and going for the same strateggy she deployed

There is a single issue here

Obama bots

According to a single source (if you want me to walk through all that crap I outlined I will)
In Bloodfued Obamas versus Clintons

1)Clinton supported Obama in exchange for Obamas support in 2016

a) Obama took the support then reneged

The 2016 election from the democrat side will be settled not by any of the rank and file democrats. The peons will not matter

The courting of the Superdelegates will be the battle for the Dem nomination
It will be Hillary versus Obama's prodigy

Keep in mind the Democrats foot soldiers opinion will not matter

1)Florida -2001 election
2)treatment of all persons complaining during ACA votes and passage
3)harry reids re-election and the power went out

Right now Clinton is making deals for those super delegates...

posted on Nov, 12 2014 @ 06:10 PM
The democrats will spend about a billion dollars on the Primaries

Those loyal to Obama versus the Clintonites
(I see no third candidate emergin to deal with the two factions or sneaking in)

If I had showed you my homework you would have seen something interesting

The money spent in primaries for the office affected the winner
2012 would have shown rule is different for sitting incumbent
loyalty and easier business purchase of repeat customer
2014 shows this

It puts money in the coffers for general election
Donors lined up have other means of power

With a clinton win in the Primaries
they lose about 20% of the Obama bots (defined as paid allies ect)

but the clintons will be able to reach out to them and will mollify concerns

What does this give the republicans on a roadmap for victory

1)need two candidates fighting it out to the end

Defined as spending a lot of money in primaries
to give republican controllers more power then democrats
Cant be cheap if they want the white house

2) political operator

will have to match clinton in grasp and reach

Keep in mind mathematically your vote only counts for show at this point

As scary as this sounds
The republicans only have one hope of beating Obot clone or Hillary

JEB Bush

None of the other candidates they can put forward can match the two vying for control of Dem Party

So my bet
Is it will be a squeaker between Hillary and Obot

1)If bill dies it will be hillary
2) obot clone caught with a dead girl or live boy

then hillary

General Election will be JEB Bush versus Hillary
if the Republicans want to win

posted on Nov, 21 2014 @ 07:18 PM
You could go further with Robert A. Heinlein, such as; (to paraphrase) Conservative, Liberal, Progressive, etc are merely labels of convenience. There are only two types of people, those who wish to control you, and those with no such idea.

posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 12:14 AM
a reply to: Brandyjack

your dead on

His words apply

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