U.S. Military MAY be exploring or be in contact with a MASSIVE Dyson Sphere!

That was a very in-depth description of alien genitalia.

This sounds fantastic! Can you give us a couple of images to go on or is this too risky for you?

a reply to: grumpy64

I do NOT have any videos or photos at all.

Again, I do point out that the text itself PROMISED some
photos and video but after I originally copied the text
I do remember NEVER hearing another peep from the
original text poster and NO photos or video were ever
made visible on the net as far as I know.

Remember that this was a a post made on a city specific
Craigslist Rants and Raves forum that did not go viral
and was basically never seen again. I've searched the
web and never saw it again anywhere. It's now gone.

I suspect that this text was copied from another person
because of some of the British-form words I saw in the
original text and have changed to American spellings
for easier readability.

i.e. change Neighbour to Neighbor or Programme to Program, etc.

Is he saying he broke AES encryption to get the data?

edit

It sounds like he is saying he found the encryption key as plain text in the encrypted file/drive. I'm not betting on that one.

I'm dubious about the quantum entanglement. The principle supposed works on the fact that you have faster than light transfer of information using a pair of "entangled" particles. In order for anyone to "tap in" to an entangled network, they'd have to take one particle from Earth all the way to wherever the other end is.

originally posted by: roadgravel
Is he saying he broke AES encryption to get the data?

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It sounds like he is saying he found the encryption key as plain text in the encrypted file/drive. I'm not betting on that one.

On a technical basis, I believe I can shed some light on this.
Many people do not realize that a windows hard drive may have
cache files that contain memory dumps or boot files that
in SOME cases may store the plaintext version of a password
that has been entered into a password entry box.
From there you can rebuild the full decryption key
of an AES-encrypted file.

AES is itself secure, but the method to ENTER the password
using a keyboard or passcard is the vulnerable part and CAN
be compromised, especially if the fast-boot options of
a Windows machine (or other Operating System) is
used and that data-entry text is still stored in
RAM memory and then dumped to disk when
say a laptop's screen is closed and the computer
goes into Hibernation or Sleep mode.

In this case I would not be surprised if
a RAM cache or fast boot file was found
and then copied into a binary file reader
and then the AES password re-constructed
from the stored clues that were SUPPOSED
to be cleared out when the system closes out.

a reply to: StargateSG7

I think the chance of that is pretty slim but the chances might have to do with the particular product used.

gonna go out on a limb and say this is a hoax.....

originally posted by: roadgravel
a reply to: StargateSG7

I think the chance of that is pretty slim but the chances might have to do with the particular product used.

He did say FAT32 which is probably means Windows 98 or even (yech!) Windows Millennium
and SOME VERSIONS for laptops had RAM dumps when the laptop screen was closed so that
it could boot faster when re-started. AES didn't get approved til 2001 as a standard or so
and then didn't become truly widespread until 2005.

More info on AES:
en.wikipedia.org...

So I'm guessing the AES was NOT actually cracked but rather password
plaintext was found so that the AES decryption key could be reconstructed.

That's just my educated guess tho!

One would think the software would change the memory value for the key after use to prevent such an occurrence.

Would probably have to been an image of a system disk then.

a reply to: StargateSG7

Certainly, a most remarkable mind wrote (at some point) that material. But as all dedicated ATSers know, the proper response is "Pics or it didn't happen."

That about sums up my general view without picking it apart otherwise.

For the record folks - the OP made it clear that this is not his data retrieval or account of the data - this is his sharing of someone else's findings.

That point aside - I'd love to see what the gentleman in your CL add came up with as a whole - I'll download the full 120GB tonight if it's out there...

I'm surprised that ( as old as the original CL post is/was ) this didn't get some more attention; here or elsewhere. Makes one wonder if he got caught up, and how far he managed to propagate the data before that happened...

All in all, sweet read - I'd love to see some of this footage, or data in general, myself - but I suppose all we can do is hope that it surfaces at this point. S&F&

I had imagined our solar system was inside one of these spheres, made up by humans and the constellations in the sky. It certainly fits the description. The only use I could imagine was a soul trap to capture the creativity and keep it here, coming back in cycles.



I found my way out though...




Funny thing is that confirmation of the spheres existence is everywhere.

a reply to: StargateSG7

The problem I have with this is that theoretical Dyson Sphere. A Dyson Sphere in order to be real would have to be - Mindbogglingly HUGE.

It's going to be so large everyone on earth would have to know about it - it would be impossible to hide from the public.

a reply to: JohnPhoenix

originally posted by: JohnPhoenix
a reply to: StargateSG7

The problem I have with this is that theoretical Dyson Sphere. A Dyson Sphere in order to be real would have to be - Mindbogglingly HUGE.

It's going to be so large everyone on earth would have to know about it - it would be impossible to hide from the public.

OP StargateSG7:

THREE THINGS !!!

ONE: I did not originate the text. I only COPIED IT
from a Craigslist Rants and Raves Forum Post.
It is the ARTICLE ITSELF which promises video
and photos. I DO NOT PROMISE THOSE THINGS
as I have NEVER SEEN any such items.
After this post was made it disappeared
after a period of time as per Craigslist
posting policies (20 or 30 day time limit?)
and I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING ABOUT IT SINCE!

Where ARE the promised copies of the 120 gigabytes of files?

I don't KNOW...I have never seen anything on ANY website
web search ever again! My file folder properties which I can
bring up during a hard disk cleanup say around FEBRUARY 2012
is when this text was posted (approximately), so if anyone can
search for Craiglist archives in Seattle WA, Vancouver BC,
Portland OR, San Francisco CA then THOSE are the likely
Craigslist Rants and Raves forums I was on when
I copied the text.

TWO: Stop shooting the messenger!

I am NOT saying this is real! I am saying
this is a piece of text that seems eerily
similar to posts I have made earlier
regarding U.S. military programs.
I have shared it on ATS because
I thought it was interesting and
it SEEMS plausible.

THREE:

Dyson spheres are NOT technologically impossible!

They are out of reach of CURRENT human technology
BUT the text itself makes a VERY plausible outline
of how one could be built. I even give it some points
for outlining issues of gravitational collapse of the
outer shell and issues with an aging and irregular
shaped sun.

And it ALSO deals with issues of humans not easily
detecting such a large structure as a Dyson Sphere
which would be the size of a solar system. The fact
that this text even outlines a means of using
GRAVITATIONAL LENSING to bend light and
infrared (heat) waves around it so it cannot
be detected gives it some plausibility.

There is a lot in this text that seems plausible
especially the part where it takes hundreds of
years to build one out of Carbon taken out of
local giant gassy planets using nanomachines
makes sense to me on a scientific basis.

The text ALSO seems to deal with the issue
of using artificial intelligences to deal with
the asymmetric pull of gravity all around the
the Dyson Sphere from other space objects.
Such low level detail lends it some credence
because I suspect the original author is a
young male HACKER who has some good
computer skills but is not absolutely
scientifically literate. That data
about the Dyson Sphere came from
somewhere ELSE and NOT the author
of the text.

Where did such DATA COME FROM?

originally posted by: JohnPhoenix
a reply to: StargateSG7

The problem I have with this is that theoretical Dyson Sphere. A Dyson Sphere in order to be real would have to be - Mindbogglingly HUGE.

It's going to be so large everyone on earth would have to know about it - it would be impossible to hide from the public.

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If the text outlines using a technique of using
artificial gravitational lensing to BEND light and
heat radiation around it, we humans would
NEVER SEE IT using our instruments. Optical, X-Ray and
Infrared telescopes would be blind and since he did say
many are in the spatial gulfs between galaxies and
galactic arms, I'm guessing we CANNOT see a
Dyson Sphere because they would be too far away.
We actually would need to get near one on a
physical basis before we can detect it.

It's an intriguing story and I think it is
contains some VERY PLAUSIBLE CONCEPTS.

True or False? I don't know but today I am
going to give it SOME credence because of
it's good detail on how a Dyson Sphere is
built and maintained.

And if HUMANS ARE IN CONTACT WITH A DYSON SPHERE,
which departments and personnel are doing so and WHY
aren't the President, Congress and the American People
NOT being allowed to KNOW and TALK about this?

originally posted by: StargateSG7
And if HUMANS ARE IN CONTACT WITH A DYSON SPHERE,
which departments and personnel are doing so and WHY
aren't the President, Congress and the American People
NOT being allowed to KNOW and TALK about this?

Because it is just a silly made up story.

originally posted by: roadgravel
One would think the software would change the memory value for the key after use to prevent such an occurrence.

Would probably have to been an image of a system disk then.

If this is a FAT32 drive, there would be partial filenames throughout
the folder structures and not-yet-erased indexes to files all over the place

See FAT32 structure information:
www.pjrc.com...

In earlier days of Win98/Millennium security was
as a big issue as it is today. Cache and TEMP files
would be strewn about and much C-code would
have been left unmangled so library calls
could be directly examined using a sector editor.
I suspect the FAT32 volume itself was unencrypted
but folders and files were encrypted on a file-by-file
basis probably with the same AES key.

This means that LIKELY IT WAS A DISK IMAGE that
was sent to the guy (he did say 120 gigabytes which
was a common hard disk size in those days).

I SUSPECT that the hacker probably read in some
FAT32 file and folder entries and figured out
where cache and temp files were located and
got a password from there.

You would be surprised how many programmer newbies
use a simple windows edit-box mask to get a password
from the user but NEVER BOTHER to immediately overwrite
the string location with random data once the password is
passed off to a verification routine. If the system is also
low on main RAM memory, parts of the get password routine
could be swapped out to hard disk and thus plaintext could
show up in a cached swap file. He did say it took five weeks
to get the AES decryption key so I suspect the hacker was
using a hard disk sector editor to examine a FAT32 drive image
and he got lucky by finding unencrypted plaintext.

That's my educated programming guess.

I have a Dyson Ball out in the garage...

...and a regular Dyson vacuum in the basement.