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originally posted by: roadgravel
Habitable Zone seems to imply lifeforms like humans. Other intelligent life could take many other forms.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: JadeStar
You will acknowledge that the "habital zone" involves far more variables that TSI and orbital radius?
Europa is far beyond the habitable zone of Sol, yet....
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: JadeStar
So there is not one Habitable Zone concept there are actually several.
And to use a local colloquialism; "Dat's the tricky part, brah."
When are we going to be able to find moons around exo-planets? They are there of course but...
Remember if the secret government is bleeding money, power, influence, and support, then we can kill it.
originally posted by: roadgravel
a reply to: JadeStar
That is all still based on life as we know or claim it to be.
It might be 100% correct but might not. Given the size, age and our knowledge of the universe, there are many more possibilities that could occur.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: JadeStar
So there is not one Habitable Zone concept there are actually several.
And to use a local colloquialism; "Dat's the tricky part, brah."
When are we going to be able to find moons around exo-planets? They are there of course but...
originally posted by: SystemResistor
a reply to: mirageman
An invasion is another story - we can be willing, or, they would opt to take us by force.
If we were to "make contact" first, we could present ourselves as a threat to their world, and they might simply obliterate us with no questions asked.
originally posted by: JadeStar
originally posted by: roadgravel
a reply to: JadeStar
That is all still based on life as we know or claim it to be.
It might be 100% correct but might not. Given the size, age and our knowledge of the universe, there are many more possibilities that could occur.
One can only look for life as we know it based on the known universe and its physical limitations. That's called science. Its fun to imagine all sorts of bizarre stuff from sci-fi or new age teachings but:
1) It doesn't help us get any closer to finding it if it does not conform to the laws of physics and chemistry. Aliens are not going to be some supernatural beings. They will inhabit the same universe with the same universal laws as we do.
2) There's every reason to believe that life as we know it is very common. Why not go after the low hanging fruit? We've got to start somewhere right?
originally posted by: roadgravel
We don't even know if the laws of the universe are uniform.
Fist reason they do not reveal themselves is the GOvernment will not allow them to do so.
Abductions. Actually these are all government sanctioned and they implant false memories to cover up the experiments.
The offshoot civilization currently orbiting cloaked use their mind tech to that end in exchange for informaton.
originally posted by: JadeStar
originally posted by: roadgravel
We don't even know if the laws of the universe are uniform.
Even some of the more esoteric parts of Einstein's work like time dilation, the geodetic effect and frame dragging have now been proven through repeated observation.
If you want to learn how we know what we know I can suggest some books.