Ebola Cases Outside of Africa all 5 of them

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Spain - 1 case, 0 deaths

United States - 4 cases, 1 death (two infections originated in the United States, one in Liberia and one in Guinea)

Or 10 cases if you count the 5 patients that were evacuated from Africa.

So why all the worry and fearmongering about a supposed pandemic?

In the last 2 days an average of 184 people died of car crashes in the USA.

Ebola is pretty much isolated in a few parts of Africa and is only still an issue because of the way it is handled over there. Like bad hygiene and idiotic burial practices.

If it was a global killer people would be dying all around the world right now.

Yeah I know, I should just wait and see.

Wait for what, it had every chance to spread, but it hardly did at all.

Get real.

a reply to: HappyThoughts

What gets me is some of the ATS members fell for it all hook line and sinker.
They didn't at swine flu but ebola.....It was like reading the end of the world is coming on ATS a ouple of weeks ago.
Just goes to show what some have been saying for a long time.
It spread due to the lack of doctors and the lack of trust the people have in them, also the lack of decent medical facilities.
I wonder If some actually secretly want something bad to happen.

Yeah, but they'll keep trying. to spread it. Need that bigger consumer base all scared so they line up for the vaccine.
Kaching,

a reply to: HappyThoughts

Good points well made

So why all the worry and fearmongering about a supposed pandemic?

Because it's Doom porn and people like to get themselves all worked up over something that isn't going to affect them because they get a sense of satisfaction from fear ... or rather fake fear.

a reply to: gortex

That and because they're idiots.

Sorry idiots, but it is true.

a reply to: HappyThoughts

Nurse in Spain got ZMAPP.
Bentley got a transfusion of survivor blood and ZMAPP.
Writebol got ZMAPP.
Nina Phen got transfusion of survivor blood.
Amber Vinson got survivor's blood.
The NBC news cameraman got survivor's blood.

Thomas Duncan got neither and died.

Still no news on Spencer's condition.

So, I guess everyone in this thread are betting on enough ZMAPP and survivor's blood to save them?
Bet on....

I really thought it would spread more easily. I guess it doesn't. So much bad info. It lives on surfaces for a long time. It takes one virus to infect you. It can be aerosolized. But apparently you have to roll around in an infected persons vomit. Oh and healthcare workers can only get it. Even with ppe.

Sorry for being such a dope guys

a reply to: lakesidepark

Yep. Bet they're draining survivors like vampires and trying to synthesize the magic as we speak.

a reply to: lakesidepark

What is your point?

Mine is that Ebola does not have the potential to become a pandemic because it hardly spreads under normal conditions.

How is your post relevant?

So, I guess everyone in this thread are betting on enough ZMAPP and survivor's blood to save them? Bet on....

I think most level headed people are betting that they will never get infected in the first place.

Even after pointing out the non issue with factual data, you still act like it's the killer disease that will infect everybody.

Get real.

a reply to: HappyThoughts

What is your point? Its only been a month under heavy censorship and spin.

I hope you're right though. I would rather get nuked by Putin

a reply to: nukedog

What is your point? Its only been a month under heavy censorship and spin.

What heavy censorship and spin? Are you saying that there are actually a lot more cases outside Africa. Can you back this up?

originally posted by: HappyThoughts
a reply to: nukedog

What is your point? Its only been a month under heavy censorship and spin.

What heavy censorship and spin? Are you saying that thre are actually a lot more cases outside Africa. Can you back this up?

Pretty hard to back up. Ebola Ceasar and all. MSM is a tool so I wouldn't put it past them.

a reply to: nukedog

I see, nothing more than baseless speculation, as expected from Ebola pushers.

Get real.

a reply to: HappyThoughts

Wait for what, it had every chance to spread, but it hardly did at all.

Get real.

Yeah well, because the one doctor in Nigeria who refused to let their patient out of the hospital, (who later died), she stopped the spread in that case. In Liberia they locked down the slums, in other parts people just dragged dead bodies into the streets and left them for the government to come in to remove. (Once they realized it was ebola that was killing them all).

The problem is without proper precautions its very easy for it to spin out of control. The % rates is what you have to look at, and if you consider the number of nurses and doctors who come down with ebola when treating it, or the % of infected that go on to infect family, friends and acquaintances... you have some very scary %'s.

30-40% of the people who contract Ebola will survive all on their own. Where do you think the survivors blood comes from? Still it's a disease in the African Congo region not a world pandemic. After nearly a year it's still isolated to Africa. In the same time frame the flu epidemic of 1918-1919 spread around the globe and killed millions. Earlier in our history the bubonic plague spread around the globe in roughly the same time frame and killed millions. Both these diseases spread globally without the advantage of modern transportation modes. So what does that say about the communicability of Ebola vs other diseases. What does that say about its ability to ever become a global threat?
a reply to: lakesidepark

a reply to: AutumnWitch657

Good post.

So what does that say about the communicability of Ebola vs other diseases. What does that say about its ability to ever become a global threat?

And what does it say about the ability of a lot of ATS members to discern real issues from non issues?

originally posted by: HappyThoughts
a reply to: lakesidepark



What is your point?



Mine is that Ebola does not have the potential to become a pandemic because it hardly spreads under normal conditions.



How is your post relevant?

You began your post with a short list of KNOWN Ebola infections in Spain and the U.S. With the information blackout and news embargo by the CDC, and the cooperation of Western governments to contol the infromation flow about Ebola, there is NO WAY we can confirm the first item presented as fact by your post.

You also note that only 1 of those listed had died, and neglected to add the facts about the differences in the treatments of the one that died and the others that live. Another misguiding tidbit that serves to calm the sheeple.

Then you make comments about how difficult it is to acquire thie infection...and use the talking points of the CDC to support the argument. But fail to note how LITTLE experience and knowledge we have about this virus, until this year there were probably less infections in any ONE outbreak to populate a standard clinical trial!

No one has to jump aboard the doom train to understand this virus is significantly different than any pathogen we have dealt with in recent history, and that this version of Ebola seems to have characteristics different than the strains in previous outbreaks, nor to understand that this Ebola outbreak is the FIRST ebola outbreak to continue sustained REPEATING human-to-human transmission, allowing this Ebola opportunities to mutate and adapt to humans as hosts (Ebola mutates faster than the flu and is only beaten by HIV for mutation rates).

The short is, we don't know everything about the virus yet that we need to know, and this virus is changing in the wake of this outbreak, so we may have to adapt along the way.

If we are already seeing a trickle of infections making it here with the numbers of infections at 10,000 confirmed (probably at least 2-4 times that unconfirmed)....then how many cases do you expect to see here when the numbers there grow to 100,000? When the virus spreads to another region with more commerce to the U.S.?

You are doing a good deed to calm the sheeple. Lets us that are paying attention make preparations without them getting in the way. I express my thanks.

a reply to: boncho

Yet only 2, max 3 people were infected outside of Africa, even though there had been no travel restrictions or screening, esecially in the beginning.

You can be scared as much as you like, but the facts don't support your fears. Get real.

for a website with the motto "deny ignorance" most of the user base does the exact opposite.
That's why sometimes i think about deleting my account here, really.
A place that should allow a flow of hard to find information and realistic debates, gives into the fear mongering that you find in the MSM, with more paranoia thrown in.
Amazing how this site for the most part displays the stereotypical conspiracy nut.
people that have deep seeded social problems, and justify them through this site: "i'm not paranoid, the world is just crazy!"
one day this site will be a case study as to how people feed their own delusions.
the level headed people on this site need to be more vocal, we can't let the crazies win.

a reply to: HappyThoughts

I think if it wasn't for ATS members the CDC would still have their collective heads up their buts and a lot more average people would have their heads in the sand.

What do you suggest then? Keep sipping the koolaid and watch the ball?