Institution-centric vs community-centric education. Reclaim our youth.

The education system right is just churning out obedient clones.
But i realised in a recent conversation with a friend thst we can actually domsomethng about this. In this country (UK), there's no law to prevent what i called "home schooling". That essentially means a child doesn't have to be sent to an institution to learn the "national curriculum".
The national curriculum is a basic foundation of what the child should be able to understand at certain ages, per government law. The home school idea though gives a lot more freedom for the child to learn in their own ways. Over the years there have been many changes in the way children are educated in schools. They've been experimenting in recent years with different theories of education based on new brain research.

According to some theories there are different "learning styles"... "kinesthetic learning" "Tactile learning" "visual learning" & "audible learning"... So they have this research and before thinking it through, they go to schools and ask your children to identify with one of their 4 styles, and segregate them accordingly, even adapting the syllabus. A few years later more research comes out. This time they realised that instead of a child being one of 4 types, that actually most are a mix of all 4... well hello mr and mrs big wigs! Our children are not 1 dimensional!!!

This kind of thing goes on all the time, and its something i have experienced first hand. What i see going on is extremely sinister. Theyre literally using schools to conduct dangerous psychological experiments on our kids! Every western education system is always trying new things new theories of learning and teaching like this, without a childs or a parents consent.

& the net result is theyre churning out generation after generation of young people who grow up hating their parents firstly for sending them to these psychologically draining schools and secondly for being part of the older generation that were sick enough to do psychological experiments on them... It seems to me this has created a generation split where young people grow up hating their elder generations without even realizing why, because by the time they are booted out of school into the real world of student debt and wage slavery theyve been subjected to so much programming and propoganda that their minds aren't even capable anymore of psychologically processing what theyve been through. One because they have no time to meaningfully reflect in the pace of modern times, and two because the programming has given them amnesia. So many feel it that it has become a kind of mass psychosis, kind of like the collective subconsciousness thing Carl Jung was talking about.

Now we have these new consciousness movements that are spreading their ideas about at the moment... To menthis isnt conscious stuff at all, its the opposite. Theyre so hypnotised by their own sparkly pink flying pony unicorn rainbow astral travelling paladian channelling reality tunnels that the first thing about what kind of psyche a lot of people are coming out of high school with in today's world is beyond them. No one is talking about this issue in that so called "conscious" community of "light" beings. If they are then it is a very small minority. So what the heck is going on? What kind of sublevels of hyporcrisy are we "altenative" folks buying into?

We dont have tomput up with this psychotic progamming anymore!we have everything we need to set up an alternative system outside of mainstream system of government education. We have the resouces with the widespread accessability of the internet to liberate our youth from these ugly cycles of psychosis forming propoganda programming factories. We can take back education from the hands of the governmens institution-centric system and replacewith community-centric home-school collectives. Society is suffering under the psychosis of the current system and its influencing ALL political levels, from gun ownership rights, to economic & foreign policy, because now the youth are so easily programmed they are just turning into nothing more than consumers and clones, and are contributing to the programming & propoganda themselves.


The thing about home schooling is I know a lof of parents work and feel they have no choice but to send their children to mainstream schools. Im not saying all schools are bad, but the vast majority of state schools are. A lot of parents however don't work, and many peolle are now working from home, and they definately have enough spare time to educate their children, they just need to understand the benefits. We have to ask ourselves philosophically, since when was it not the responsibility of our own communities to educate our youth? By doing it we resolve two important things. It will give respect back to old people, and it will dignify our youth by providing them a comfortable and wholistic environment from which they can learn. Its a decent education on all levels. And far better than subjecting them to psychological experiments and sending them to ugly institutions that feel like prisons and serve as nothing more than propaganda programming and indoctrination factories. Of course many families cant support their children at home while they work. They cannot afford private carers to look after and teach their children, so they send them to state schools. But not every parent and grandparent in the community works. But this is a simple matter of human resources. If they were well connected enough they couod easily find childcare free of charge. What we can do is make it so that parents in local communities network with each other so that they can form private home school collectives.. for example an Android APP that shows you all the local "home schoolers" in your area on a map, and gives a rating etc, description contact details and so on. This could be easily done, and it could be done without exploitative agencies charging serious sums per day for ho e schooling. Nobody should be allowed to profit from education. Thats sucks everything of value out of what is supposed to be an investment in our future... Its basically investing into a future built on exploitation. And look after years of these policies what kind of future we are going into.
One of massive exploitation and modern slavery.
So if you BELIEVE we can do something we can do something.
If you don't think its us, and that is the next generation that is going to sort out the world, ask yourselves this, who is educating them? That's right! The very same people that are screwing the world up!

Older folks out there, i feel for you, it wasnt your fault, it was the policy makers, but now the youth hate you too simply because you were part of the older generation who created this sick system... we need to give respect back to the majority of innocent OAPs ( /older people in general) betrayed by a few policy makers that caused their own children to grow up hating them. And we need to start educating our youth wholistically outside of the programing system so they can find that love in their heart for their community again, and become noble citizens. We need to move away from instituion - centric systems, to community - centric systems, otherwise the world will descend even further unto chaos than it currently is.

Please if you are a parent reading this, or an educator, heed my words. Peace.

a reply to: funkadeliaaaa

I work in education and the one home school kid I've met is creative, intelligent, and open minded. Home schooling is very very demanding though. This girl's mom can only do it with extensive help from the grandmother.

It's definitely superior to the modern k-12 system if done right. Unfortunately it's not feasible since most parents lack the time or education to do it properly.

a reply to: tavi45

A lot more poeple work from home now though tavi... If you think about it.. For the first 4 years of a childs life, they need to be under pretty much constant adult supervision.. Why not get people in communities to form their own home education groups for their children between the ages of 4 and 14 after which they can legally start learning on their own?

Like one quote says below, this is all intentional.

Very few are aware of this fact simply because history itself is all lies.

Today's educational 'system' is being used as a mind control technique to dumb down kids into unthinking conformists and zombies who won't ask any questions.

As another man without a high school diploma, I discovered many years ago that the "educated" class is generally not educated at all, it is mis-educated. The whole purpose of American (perhaps all "western") "higher education" is obviously to bring minds into lock step with "The Agenda." As a general rule, the less official American education a person has been exposed to, the greater his/her ration of common sense.

"Education" is Spiritual Suicide

Modern course work in universities does not widen the scope of a student’s knowledge, it narrows it. It doesn’t cultivate wisdom. It cultivates ignorance. It doesn’t teach students to become independent and self-responsible citizens, rather, it conditions them to become more and more dependent upon the system of corporate employment and governmental assistance. It doesn’t encourage free thought and the questioning of external authority, but rather to accept unconditionally the official version of everything.

What today’s universities accomplish is to turn young students with malleable, questioning minds into rigid, unthinking drones destined to become cogs in the machinery of modern society, machinery that has been wholly devised and developed by none other than our aptly named Machine Men. In short, universities are institutional tools that manufacture unthinking and incurious machines – namely, graduates

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“Education is a weapon, whose effect depends on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed.” ~ Joseph Stalin

"I begin with the young." ~ Adolf Hitler

"He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future." ~ Adolf Hitler

"...the academic meltdown in our public education system is intentional. It asserts that change agents have been working at the Education Department to change curriculum, not to improve teaching but to promote a socialist agenda. Their role is to create schools which will mold obedient citizens who no longer have the knowledge and skills to improve their lot in life, but are dependent on government/multi-national companies' guidance to survive. The system will create imprisoned citizens that will be managed from cradle to grave to serve the needs of the state's managed economy."

Deliberate Dumbing Down of America

Only when all children in public, private and home schools are robotized-and believe as one-will World Government be acceptable to citizens and able to be implemented without firing a shot. The attractive-sounding "choice" proposals will enable the globalist elite to achieve their goal: the robotization (brainwashing) of all Americans in order to gain their acceptance of lifelong education and workforce training-part of the world management system to achieve a new global feudalism.

A 100 yr. Silent War on Education

Never mind that this country's education system is already tailor-made to spread misinformation, entrench mythologies, and promote American exceptionalism to our young children. American history, as taught in schools, is generally nonsense meant to instill and preserve a sense of City-on-a-Hill nationalism, along with healthy doses of tall-tale founding myths, gung-ho militarism, and ethnic cleansing justification in the form of righteous Manifest Destiny. As James W. Loewen explains in his 1995 book Lies My Teacher Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong, textbooks used to teach our children "leave out anything that might reflect badly upon our national character."

Who's Really Brainwashing Our Children

Great post, I have been wondering about since I started going to school.

There are plenty of solutions, and you are absolutely right. I have been asking my self and trying to get other people to listen, but you cannot change them.

It's not even about changing the person, but their perspective on priorities in life, one thing I have learned is that it doesn't work. You have to change yourself, then people will start looking and maybe listening.

That's why I took up food gardening (permaculture style), because in the future I will work at home mostly, and if I have kids or younger students they can learn how to survive in the real world, not the digital monetary system. But that is one of many solutions, solutions that should be applied to one self not others.

Sure glad to see I am not the only one confused as to ''what in the world are people doing?''

a reply to: Murgatroid

It's not only today, this has been going on since the middle ages.

People, well most of us are already brainwashed, look at all the green lawns out there, people are fighting a force that has unlimited energy to do what it does, build forests.

But the majority BELIEVE that weeds are bad, and a flat lawn is healthy. Hell they believe that pure bread dogs are actually pure.

like is said, it's not up to the government or other people, but us, or yourself if you actually see the upside down priorities people occupy the self with.

a reply to: Murgatroid

Today's educational 'system' is being used as a mind control technique to dumb down kids into unthinking conformists and zombies who won't ask any questions.

i agree and i know, and thank you for controbuting that excellent material... What botherd me most is, u have to be the most brainless or most evil idiot in the world to think that will end well. They probably think its good or national security... Its terible for national security. Notjing could he worse for nationao security than to have a population of mindless clones.

a reply to: Murgatroid

Double post.

a reply to: funkadeliaaaa

You also raised another very good point...

Yesterday I read somewhere about person who was asking if mind control could actually be a good thing.

Mind control is apparently the very reason why so many seem completely impervious to the truth even while it stares them in the face...

In the entire history of man, no one has ever been brainwashed and realized, or believed, that he had been brainwashed. Those who have been brainwashed will usually passionately defend their manipulators, claiming they have simply been "shown the light" . . . or have been transformed in miraculous ways.
Brainwashing Techniques Being Used On The Public

CIA slides come to mind...

Most people have built in "slides" that short circuit the mind’s critical examination process when it comes to certain sensitive topics. "Slides" is a CIA term for a conditioned type of response which dead-ends a person’s thinking, and terminates debate or examination of the topic. For example, the mention of the word "conspiracy" usually solicits a slide response with many people. ~ Fritz Springmeier

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a reply to: funkadeliaaaa

People are doing exactly that. It's just hard to scale up nationally. Also you run into the issue of having indoctrination in homogenous communities. Imagine home school communities run by poorly educated people. The indoctrination will happen anyways just without any oversight.

originally posted by: tavi45
a reply to: funkadeliaaaa

I work in education and the one home school kid I've met is creative, intelligent, and open minded. Home schooling is very very demanding though. This girl's mom can only do it with extensive help from the grandmother.

It's definitely superior to the modern k-12 system if done right. Unfortunately it's not feasible since most parents lack the time or education to do it properly.

I dissagree about it not being possible. I know quite a few home schoolers, and most of them spend the day playing!
Playing = Learning, though we're not supposed to notice that!
In the evenings the parents spend time with their children teaching them to read and write etc.

Something that really caught my attention was this - The five year old home schoolers that I know can all read write do numbers and know the alphabet. However, if they were now sent to school they'd spend the next six months learning to count to 15 and learning half the alphabet.

Sending them to school would seriously hold them back as they can already count to any amount and have known the entire alphabet since they were three!!!
But they didnt have to spend their entire day in school being deprived of play to learn all this, they learnt quite naturally by playing, and a little tuition in the evenings from their parents.

There is so much wrong with the school system, for example they seperate them into age groups!
Splitting children up into age groups seriously inhibits learning!

Pressure of passing exams / tests.
Its been proven that exams and tests cause the mind to go into defence mode. While in that mode the mind narrows itself to using only whats needed to survive.

School teaches us that children are incapable of learning on their own. This is absolute nonsense! So many tests carried out all around the world have proven that children are extremely good at teaching themselves.


I agree with op, schools are primarily a place of indoctrination. Programming the next generation of obedient unquestioning workers.

originally posted by: tavi45
a reply to: funkadeliaaaa

People are doing exactly that. It's just hard to scale up nationally. Also you run into the issue of having indoctrination in homogenous communities. Imagine home school communities run by poorly educated people. The indoctrination will happen anyways just without any oversight.

Yeah im sire tere are many issues there. But this is community issue, and therefore we as a national or international community connected by the internet can help people by producing "starter packs" that give all the the basics and be a kind of instriftion manual on how to set up a home school collective community, starting at an individual level all the way up to the whole town or city.


Im not saying its easy. Im saying its wise. Any education system is an investment, and home schooling is a much more wise investment in your child.

a reply to: VoidHawk

nah; things don't work like that.. most kids do not live in a household where there is the appropriate structure, parental care, etc. for that.
I encountered some homeschooled kids once, they were dogmatic creationists with a homophobic parent.

though I find indoctrination to be a loaded term... it overly implies negative things. Homeschooling just has parents indoctrinate their children.
frankly I think indoctrination is actually useful... Modifying/encouraging behaviors can weed out some of the bad tendencies (like being quick to resort to violence, or poor hygiene standards).

The problem is the US government isn't nearly so competent as to be able to institute focused/purposeful indoctrination on students. I mean you could argue the design of public high-school breaks down ones will. The US government is a thousand seperate interests/parties pushing and pulling in every direction, education is a clusterf*ck, stupid amounts of political correctness from either side of the isle as the right and left fight over their separate (subjective) versions of US history).

a reply to: XaniMatriX

Yes there are plenty of solutions, and getting nack to natire is certainly one of them, so i commend you for that.

Play grounds dont count. Im talking about meaningfull time outs.

Horticulture is an excellent subject... The problem we face in society like joblessness can easily be resolved by sorting out education. People who want to learn about certain things should be able to go somewhere where there are continually people learning and teaching a particular subject. No one should have to go to universoty to become a teacher! Teaching should be a natural human instinct!

a reply to: NonsensicalUserName

Indoctrination is another word for bullying. Misbehaviour can only be resolved by a loving community thay cares for a childs future, not by impatient authoriarians or behavioural psychologists. Teaching requires skill to make a child genuinely interested in learning about something. But waking them up daily to go to a hell hole institution full of strangers to be forced to learn about things they might never have wanted to lesrn about is worse than indoctrination, its torture.

a reply to: Murgatroid

That CIA slides is pretty scary stuff. Thanks for bringing it up.

Someone in my family was good at that.

originally posted by: VoidHawk

originally posted by: tavi45
a reply to: funkadeliaaaa

I work in education and the one home school kid I've met is creative, intelligent, and open minded. Home schooling is very very demanding though. This girl's mom can only do it with extensive help from the grandmother.

It's definitely superior to the modern k-12 system if done right. Unfortunately it's not feasible since most parents lack the time or education to do it properly.

I dissagree about it not being possible. I know quite a few home schoolers, and most of them spend the day playing!
Playing = Learning, though we're not supposed to notice that!
In the evenings the parents spend time with their children teaching them to read and write etc.

Something that really caught my attention was this - The five year old home schoolers that I know can all read write do numbers and know the alphabet. However, if they were now sent to school they'd spend the next six months learning to count to 15 and learning half the alphabet.

[1]Sending them to school would seriously hold them back as they can already count to any amount and have known the entire alphabet since they were three!!!
But they didnt have to spend their entire day in school being deprived of play to learn all this, they learnt quite naturally by playing, and a little tuition in the evenings from their parents.

There is so much wrong with the school system, for example they seperate them into age groups!
[2]Splitting children up into age groups seriously inhibits learning!

Pressure of passing exams / tests.
Its been proven that exams and tests cause the mind to go into defence mode. While in that mode the mind narrows itself to using only whats needed to survive.

School teaches us that children are incapable of learning on their own. This is absolute nonsense! So many tests carried out all around the world have proven that children are extremely good at teaching themselves.


I agree with op, schools are primarily a place of indoctrination. Programming the next generation of obedient unquestioning workers.

[1] Yep, totally agree with that. They know the syllabus inside out by the time they get to the age they are supposed to start learning it. And they are not suited to the regimented classroom environment in the first place.

[2] This is also true, what i said before rings true with this. Teaching is a natural human instinct, not something to be left up to exploitative strangers and institutions making personal money out of it....

There are many parents who are concerned about the modern institutions. Many are asking themselves too if they are really worthwhile, yet know little of what legally can be done as an alternative.

Those concerned parents, are the ones who can be the real pioneers in bringing back community centric learning once they realise that the laws are quite liberal. There a lot of people who work in education and many have whats best for the children in their hearts but are peripherally blinded by the education system we currently have. If done persistently and properly a real paradigm shift could take place now in our society where i predict some local authories may even start to encourage this type of schooling instead of pushing everybody through the already over run state schools. Its just a matter of persistence until parents relise they are connected to the greatest library in human history when connected to the internet. And then like a row of christmas fairy lights people will start lighting up and connecting....

This country England is ripe for it, but i dont know about elsewhere. Given what ive realised, im going to start networking with people and set about making this happen.

As of tommorow (today, its morning now) i will start investigating who to contact & will provide regular updates to this thread for you guys and let you know how its going, so stay tuned. Peace.