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Originally posted by thematrix
Fusako Shigenobu - Japanees Red Army
Kach - Founded by radical Israeli-American rabbi Meir Kahane, fight for a returning of Israel to a Biblical state.
Kahane Chai founded by Meir Kahane's son Binyamin following his father's assassination in the US.
Tamil Tigers
PKK - Marxist Terrorist group trying to establish a Kurdish state in Turkey, religion isn't the point there, but the creation of a sperate kurdish state.
National Liberation Army (ELN) Colombia - Marxist Terrorist group.
Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia - Colombian Communist terrorist group.
Revolutionary Organization 17 November - Greek group.
Sendero Luminoso (Shining Path, or SL) - Maoist group in Peru, killed over 30000 people so far.
Tupac Amaru Revolutionary Movement - Marxists in Peru.
Alex Boncayao Brigade - Philipino Communist driven group.
Interahamwe - Rwandees group that was the Hutu military force that killed 500.000 people in the Rwandees genocide.
Continuity Irish Republican Army (CIRA)
Irish Republican Army (IRA)
First of October Antifascist Resistance Group - Communist group in Spain.
Loyalist Volunteer Force (LVF) - Ireland
New People's Army (NPA) - Maoist group in the Philipines.
Revolutionary United Front - Siera Lione
United Self-Defense Forces - Colombia
And thats just the ones from the "main threat" list by the US state department.
Then you also have the ones people don't really notice:
ALF - Animal Liberation front, torched 9 McDonalds and Quick restaurants in Belgium and countless more all over the world, including the US.
PETA - ... need say more? ...
KKK - ... they aren't classified as illegal or terrorists, but they are, racist extremist activists that killed more then their share of people over the last few 100 years.
And loads more.
Every religion has terrorists, every ideology has terrorists, every "activisme" has terrorists.
All ideologies have extremists and if there is an extremist you have a good chance at terrorist actions.
[edit on 9-12-2004 by thematrix]
Originally posted by ZeroDeep
I am sorry, but you must be unaware of your Christian Abortion bomber freinds; Waco; Oklamahoma; Sikh fundamentalists who blew up an Air Liner in Canada (single greatest attack on our country due to terrorism); The Japanese Buddhist extremists who decided to make thier self-written prophicies aware by gassing an entire sub-way; the Buddhist monks in South India who raid Churchs; Hinduteva in India; I could go on.......
This is just in recent history. We are yet to cover the last few centuries.
Deep
Originally posted by Freedom_for_sum
Worldwatcher:
I can't find anything online about this person: Sheikh Muhammad al-Mukhtar a-Shanqiti
Could you please post a link where I can read his views?
Originally posted by Justanotherperson
The Old Testament god and religion is all about warfare, slavery and blood sacrifices.
And people wonder why religious folks are always fighting. It's the hot sun that these people live under that gave forth these religions and their hatred.
Originally posted by cstyle226
When I was little, and everyone was mad at me, I didn't blame everyone else. I examined what I did, and corrected it.
Originally posted by Chakotay
Originally posted by cstyle226
When I was little, and everyone was mad at me, I didn't blame everyone else. I examined what I did, and corrected it.
Please continue to do this, now that you are an adult. And tell your friends to follow suit.
Originally posted by dr_strangecraft
I have lived and traveled in the Middle East for 20 years. My wife is of Middle Eastern descent. My Arabic is very poor, though I have managed to read the Qur'an through several times in its best English translation.
I have talked extensively with Islamists in and out of business settings about this topic extensively, from Tunis to Amman.
Most of the muslims I know (educated/monied elite) outside the USA will tell you that most of the populations in their countries believe that Islam and the West simply cannot co-exist. While the violent ones are a tiny minority, it is also true that they enjoy respect and tacit support.
Certainly, there have been denunciations of Al Qaeda from prominent clerics. Yet these denunciations are never published in Arabic newspapers. It's like Arafat; he would say concilliatory things to the American cameras, and then go on a tirade in Arabic against the "Great Satan" he had signed a pact with!
You may recall the popular response to 9-11 in the Islamist world. Dancing in the streets, and firing guns in the air. Cairo. Amman. Ankhara. Tehran. Baghdad. Beyruit. Even places like Muscat and Riyadh.
If you say that "only" fundamentalist Islamists wish to destroy the west, you must go on to admit that a huge minority of muslims, maybe more than half, would be dancing and firing guns if Washington, London, and Paris ceased to exist.
I know this is an unpleasant truth. But it is my experience that most Islamists outside the US, the vast majority of them, would agree with Cstyle.
It amazes me that his posts are so completely ignored, in this very forum.
I think this collective deafness is indicative of the parataxic distortion common to liberals. You deny the truth that is too horrifying to contemplate.
These Germans, these atheists, these Europeans don�t shave under their arms and their sweat collects under their hair with a revolting smell and they stink,� said the preacher at the Mevlana Mosque in Berlin�s Kreuzberg district, in the film made by Germany�s ZDF public TV, adding: �Hell lives for the infidels! Down with all democracies and all democrats!�
You should understand that we as Muslims firmly believe that the person who doesn't believe in Allah as he is required to, is a disbeliever who would be doomed to Hell eternally. Thus one of the primary responsibilities of the Muslim ruler is to spread Islam throughout the world, thus saving people from eternal damnation.
Thus what is meant by the passage in Tafsir Uthmani, is that if a country doesn't allow the propagation of Islam to its inhabitants in a suitable manner or creates hindrances to this, then the Muslim ruler would be justifying in waging Jihad against this country, so that the message of Islam can reach its inhabitants, thus saving them from the Fire of Jahannum. If the Kuffaar allow us to spread Islam peacefully, then we would not wage Jihad against them.
Originally posted by cstyle226
"Freedom" has nothing to do with it. Khalifah is not a dictatorship, nor a democracy. It is Allah's law, and the people are free to enjoy themselves under Allah's law.
Originally posted by cstyle226
I am neither concilliatory, nor threatening.
All I am saying is, as long as the US props up dictators which are friendly to them, kills dictators that are unfriendly, and maintains control over Muslim lands, then the "terror" will never stop. Israel uses America for it's agenda, even some Americans say that.
Read Bin Laden's May interviews, he is very clear. Muslims want Khalifah, and as long as the US has got it's hands all over the Mideast, that will never happen. So the US economy must be brought down to the level where it can no longer afford these operations. It's pretty simple.
"Freedom" has nothing to do with it. Khalifah is not a dictatorship, nor a democracy. It is Allah's law, and the people are free to enjoy themselves under Allah's law. The Ummah will still trade Oil and whatever with you, just at a more reasonable price, and not allow you to steal it.
Muslims do not want to destroy America, or turn America into an Islamic country. Just leave the Muslim lands, stop the wars, and stop helping Israel oppress Palestinians. Since those things will never happen willingly, the result is clear.
"Islam must reform itself and conform to societal norms or it will be destroyed."
Originally posted by cstyle226
So while the Western people are easy to force into conformity, and easily give up their beliefs for safety, this will never happen with believers.
. . . I look forward to the future.