URGENT - Ebola US Military Quick Strike Team

a reply to: projectvxn
Seems to me that a lot of the units being deployed for ebola missions, both to Africa and now in the U.S. are coming out of Texas.

Quick strike, rapid response. Out of Ft Sam Houston. They have the equipment and training on how to use it so healthcare workers don't get infected.

Other engineering teams going to Africa out of Ft Hood.

I personally think this might be a good thing, as the military is positioned for fast response and logistics, and have said so in other discussions here. It's what they excel at.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

You know this. I know this.

But everyone else seems to think they are deploying the infantry.

**Reposting my thoughts here from the closed thread on this topic:

Good that they have a team like this on standby? Yes

Scary that the official line from TPTB has been how hard it is to catch and spread yet they feel the need for this team to exist? Yes

Should this be viewed as being prepared finally or as damage control to appear prepared?

I'm still unsure of my exact thoughts about using military medical personnel instead of the CDC, despite how Barney Fifish the CDC has been thus far. Apparently the purpose of the Centers for Disease Control is NOT to control diseases, go figure.

Lol there will be.infantry...this is an army operation.


Like.someone wise.said before...I have a bridge.I can sell you


reply to: projectvxn

a reply to: ArmyOfNobunaga

No there won't.

What possible purpose could there be for infantry personnel in a medical emergency that is best handled by medical specialists? Have you bothered to look where these units are deploying from?

Have you bothered to look at what units have been activated for this purpose? No?

Didn't think so.

I think it's a smart move, seeing as the CDC doesn't seem nearly as capable at either quick response or mobilizing as they always appear to be in the movies.

This is exactly what our military trains for and is the best in the world at. I am glad they are doing this. Doesn't worry me a bit.

I will say though, that with a disease of this nature, even 72 hours can be too long.

a reply to: projectvxn


Lol ok. I was in the army and then contracted for them for about twelve years. I'm sure you are right. You win.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

72 hours is simply an operational window. It would most likely be 24 or less depending on the facilities available at the point of the incident and personnel, if any, already on the ground.

originally posted by: ArmyOfNobunaga
a reply to: projectvxn


Lol ok. I was in the army or contracted for them for about twelve years. I'm sure you are right. You win.

I'm active duty now. What's your point?

So you weren't in the army..you just did contract work and that makes you an expert?

There's construction crew contracted to build extensions on the airfield i work at...I guess I should ask them if they can help me with maintenance on my Hawks?

a reply to: projectvxn

Yeah, sounds like that would be worst case. They do have to get the units working as teams and some additional training will be required, but they already have a pretty good CBRN-trained base to build on.

a reply to: projectvxn

My point is you are either ignorant or blind. I've seen thousands of military operations that include civilians. I've never seen less than two units of army personnel in any operation and it was rare if it was just 10- 20 soldiers.


I'll retire from this thread... log in a couple of days for chuckles.



Cheers

a reply to: ~Lucidity

CBRN units aren't deploying.

They may have a CBRN specialist training them, on dangerous diseases procedures, but I'm guessing not much beyond that.

a reply to: projectvxn
I didn't mean to imply that...was just trying to say they all pretty much have basic CBRN training as a base to build on for the more specialized training they will be receiving.

a reply to: ArmyOfNobunaga

My point is you are either ignorant or blind.

I'm in the army and am firmly aware of what units are deploying, what the purpose of those units are, and what base they are coming from.

I've seen thousands of military operations that include civilians.

I've been IN military operations. Multinational ops, CBRN training, deployment to combat so forth and so on.

I've never seen less than two units of army personnel in any operation and it was rare if it was just 10- 20 soldiers.

Define the term unit..Was it a company? Battalion? What was the purpose of those units? Was it a Combat team? Armor? Aviation? Medical Corp? Engineers? EOD?

Ooohh let me guess..It was swoopty Special Ops stuff you can't talk about because it was a huge SEALDeltaForceReconSFRanger op?

I'll retire from this thread... log in a couple of days for chuckles.

See ya.

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: projectvxn
I didn't mean to imply that...was just trying to say they all pretty much have basic CBRN training as a base to build on for the more specialized training they will be receiving.

Indeed.

But that basic training CBRN is crap to be honest.

What these guys are going to get is going to be mission specific and will actually help them.

a reply to: projectvxn

Yep. But even if it's basic, at least it's more than the average healthcare worker gets, eh?

Use your heads people. They don't mention soldiers because we already have soldiers in every state, as well as LEO's and 3letters.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

Not generally. I would say it is next to worthless coming out of basic.

CBRN training at the basic level includes operations with your MOPP4 gear on and you have to go get CS gassed. You don't really get anything beyond that.

CBRN specific unit training is conducted at Fort Leonard Wood as a specific MOS, and their graduates form CBRN units like the 48th chemical brigade. Those guys know what they're doing. They are likely the ones that WOULD be training these folks in proper contamination procedures, if they don't have their own SOP in place...Which is unlikely considering the nature of the mission. But the Medical Corps. has their own training and certification programs as well. While most CBRN units deal with radiological and chemical threats.

a reply to: Thorneblood

Every single one of those people in that army medical unit out of Fort Sam Huston wear the same uniform I do.

How much training have these military personnel had. I hope they aren't going to do any "on the job" training. It would be a bad place to make a mistake.
If anyone does get infected, do they have a plan? I assume they will bring them back here to an Ebola literate hospital for treatment (as opposed to any and all hospitals that are capable of handling Ebola).
And besides, the natives here in America are restless and the election is close at hand. They must look like they are doing something!