Obama authorizes use of National Guard to fight Ebola in W. Africa

'Consequence management' is what we get to experience after the guard gets their training in over there and things start going pear shaped here...

Runs on grocery stores, banks, gun shops once the general idiot recongizes that the consequences that those who are corrupt have managed to lead the incompetent astray.

a reply to: Hellas

That would be situational and would depend on how serious the people and the government are about squelching the outbreak, wouldn't it?

African leaders plead for more help to fight Ebola

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: Hellas

That would be situational and would depend on how serious the people and the government are about squelching the outbreak, wouldn't it?

Explain to me how the US National Guard is in charge of 'How serious the Liberian Government' takes its own national matters.

You gotta be kidding right?

a reply to: Hellas
Ebola outbreak: Liberian president asks Barack Obama for more help

"Without more direct help from your government, we will lose this battle against Ebola," Ms Johnson Sirleaf wrote to Mr Obama.

The US government has already committed about $100 million to tackle the outbreak by providing protective equipment for healthcare workers, food, water, medical and hygiene equipment.

The US military will build a 25-bed field hospital in Liberia to care for infected health workers but wants Liberians to run it.

Given that he is the Commander-in-Chief, all Americans should be proud of this moment - Obamas personal sacrifice in fighting Ebola..........by sending others over to do his bidding.

Here's a thought, round up every last politician, thug cop and lawyer in the land and send them all on the first plane out to also go fight this thing. I don't think any taxpayer who be against that.

Here's another thought, stop flights into the US from countries suspected of having the disease, Oh thats right, I forgot, if you did that then someone, somewhere, would not get his money. Oh well, carry on Obama - you da man.

Or how about this, vote for change everyone, it worked so well last time, and the time before that, and that etc.

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: Hellas
Ebola outbreak: Liberian president asks Barack Obama for more help

"Without more direct help from your government, we will lose this battle against Ebola," Ms Johnson Sirleaf wrote to Mr Obama.

The US government has already committed about $100 million to tackle the outbreak by providing protective equipment for healthcare workers, food, water, medical and hygiene equipment.

The US military will build a 25-bed field hospital in Liberia to care for infected health workers but wants Liberians to run it.

You're still confusing help with dictating others what to do.

a reply to: Hellas

I never mentioned dictating? Who mentioned dictating? Oh I think that might have been you?

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: Hellas

I never mentioned dictating? Who mentioned dictating? Oh I think that might have been you?

Of course it was me because that is what it is

I heard this today, but I always thought the Guard was for the USA?

Organization[edit]
The National Guard of the several states, territories, and the District of Columbia serves as part of the first-line of defense for the United States.[6] The state National Guard is organized into units stationed in each of the 50 states and US territories, and operates under their respective state or territorial governor. The governors exercise control through the state adjutants general.[7] The National Guard may be called up for active duty by the governors to help respond to domestic emergencies and disasters, such as hurricanes, floods, and earthquakes.[7]

en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: Valhall

I reckon consequence management is the good stuff like disposing of dead bodies and keeping people under quarantine and preventing them from leaving the country/infected cities.

b***s***...Obama and Frieden have already said they don't want to restrict travel from these countries. I haven't seen anything about our National Guard going over there to act as Liberia's TSA. I mean seriously. Don't just make crap up that sounds logical and fill in the blanks. Geeze Louise.

I was thinking better of you til you pulled this one.

originally posted by: Valhall

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: Valhall

I reckon consequence management is the good stuff like disposing of dead bodies and keeping people under quarantine and preventing them from leaving the country/infected cities.

b***s***...Obama and Frieden have already said they don't want to restrict travel from these countries. I haven't seen anything about our National Guard going over there to act as Liberia's TSA. I mean seriously. Don't just make crap up that sounds logical and fill in the blanks. Geeze Louise.

I was thinking better of you til you pulled this one.

Are you familiar with the hypothetical? Also, this was part of an ongoing conversation, and it is implied, at least in my mind, that this would be if that is what the country's government and people wanted or if that is what the WHO and CDC and USAMRIID decided was the best course of action. They are asking for help. What that help evolves into is still uncertain.

Another thing that really bothered me today was obama not going out on tour, he just didnt want to shake hands with the infected masses out on the road. He did not stay behind to work on the ebola scare, he could work from any place.

a reply to: antar

Wasn't he kissing people yesterday or something? I'm so confused.

Lets remember : there is a difference between placing an order to activate....and signing an order to authorize.

Apples and oranges...but still...so it begins.

If my Governor places an activation officially, my ERT team activates up into the state's Defense Force whom maintains the National Stockpile in place of the Guard while they are called up and out.

We get National Guard pay, but who cares about that! Its all nuts...and Im hoping it doesnt come to that. (An official "call-up" of the National Guard Units).





PS Im in Emergency Response medicine. Thats what I signed up for...not Ebola...so, I am personally concerned for everyone. All of us....

So here we go again. Anyone wondering why the world, much of which hates the USA, stands by and waits for us do the dirty work? The global armchair quarterbacks will be watching and complaining of everything a guardsman does wrong.

I would rather see us close our borders and leave the National Guard guarding our nation on home soil.

a reply to: mysterioustranger

I know there's a difference...doesn't change the argument though. He can't do this.

You can't issue an AUTHORIZATION for something you don't have AUTHORITY to AUTHORIZE.

That would be my point. I'm not saying boots are moving. I'm saying he has no say in whether these particular boots move for this particular reason. He has to go with hat in hand to the governors for this. But then, this megolamaniac doesn't play well with others, now does he?

a reply to: ~Lucidity

I'm well-versed in the hypothetical. I just try not to use them as answers to troubling questions.

Three months too late, but they'll be active already when they need to take the silent martial law we've been under and make it obvious.

Prepare to have armed guards at every airport, every bus station, random highway barricades looking for people who so much as look sick.

I give it another month and a half although they may wait until after Christmas. Gotta have the shopping season and don't want to tick off the X-tians!

A prepared government that really had our best interests at heart would (strange as it sounds) be turning the FEMA camps into quarantine camps and rapidly training troops in medical procedures. They won't do that, however. There's not going to be a well-staffed hospital in the country a few weeks from now, (actually there isn't now, but this level of unstaffed is normal), and critical supplies will be unavailable a month from now, especially anything that's produced in China, which is almost all the plastics and disposables.

I think the ebola hysteria is propoganda to make people take a very dangurous vaccine that will implement the "changes" the American people voted for some years back. and i think people living in the U.S actually should revolt, or do something rather than just sitting here, i think the time to act is about now.... it`s going exactly how it is supposed... people talking, but not doing much. talking and generating fear amongst eachother and when we cut to the chase everyone is to affraid of actually doing something. as we can see, allot of things are rigged and behind the scenes now adays, so what makes u think the voting system is not, and will save you from this "tyrrant" ?

And seeing how Obama is a freemason, and as a freemason you have to promise to put the freemasons agenda above your own. makes u wanna not vote another freemason into the white house atleast. (if voting actually isn`t rigged)

considering the shadow agenda that seems to be pushed.. sorry about the ramble guys, but i have to post something in order to start making threads on my own


Dont mind the grammar, im not from a english speaking country.

Quarentine the infected and impose strict Travel Ban in infected countries! This is not some everyday bad influenza outbreak, this is one of the deadliest virus's in the world!

What is the point of allowing these people into our country with a level 4 virus???? And sending our soldiers into these countries only does 2 things.....increases the risk of them returning and infecting more people in America and insures they will become exposed!!

its a stupid mentality!! I am all for sending supplies everything they need!! let them be first for vaccines, blood transfusions ect. teach them via internet workshops but stop wasting some of our best for there benefit and sacrificing ours!!

Hello, there is a war going on against ISIS Mr. President......you sent in Special Forces to defeat these barbaric killers why not send soldiers to back up the Forces and finally get done what is needed there.....Instead you are preoccupied with helping Africa but refuse to protect the American people!! And something else! If Nurses in a first world country whom have had experience in dealing with all kinds of illnesses and extensive patient care...CAN NOT EVEN PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM COMING DOWN WITH EBOLA, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK SOLDIERS WHO ARE NOT TRAINED AS NURSES OR HAVE NOT HAD EXPERIENCE WITH INFECTIOUS DISEASES ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT THEMSELVES IN A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY??? This logic is ridiculous!! and uninformed, GIVEN TO US BY ONE whom is clueless about diseases and humans!!

Obozo is in so far over his head!! he needs to resign or volunteer to help fight Ebola in his homeland!!

Pax