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“The state is breaching the wall of separation between church and state,” Perkins told me. ‘Pastors need to step forward and challenge this across the country. I’d like to see literally thousands of pastors after they read this story begin to challenge government authorities – to dare them to come into their churches and demand their sermons.”
Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves.
originally posted by: badgerprints
The tyranny of political correctness rolls on.
Orwellian States of America.
originally posted by: buster2010
Should a pastor or preacher be allowed to use the church for protection while they are preaching hate? How is this any different from the people that are placed under arrest at rallies when they give speeches promoting hate. Remember several preachers from Texas have been calling for gays to be killed just because they are a pastor in no way means they should be given a free pass.
originally posted by: buster2010
Should a pastor or preacher be allowed to use the church for protection while they are preaching hate? How is this any different from the people that are placed under arrest at rallies when they give speeches promoting hate. Remember several preachers from Texas have been calling for gays to be killed just because they are a pastor in no way means they should be given a free pass.
Opponents of the equal rights ordinance are hoping to force a repeal referendum when they get their day in court in January, claiming City Attorney David Feldman wrongly determined they had not gathered enough valid signatures to qualify for the ballot. City attorneys issued subpoenas last month during the case's discovery phase, seeking, among other communications, "all speeches, presentations, or sermons related to HERO, the Petition, Mayor Annise Parker, homosexuality, or gender identity prepared by, delivered by, revised by, or approved by you or in your possession."
originally posted by: jimmyx
here is the anti-discrimination the mayor and city council passed......seems to be a lot more tame than what the religious fanatics say it is....
www.houstonchronicle.com... 0abe94cf61987c
remember, you can still be fired from your job if you are gay in Texas, and if you are trying to promote job creation in Houston, you don't want the threat of being fired for being gay, to be a part of the business environment.
the Houston religious pastors want to keep that discrimination intact
originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: kaylaluv
And government never does anything over the top or imposes itself in a manner that would create an atmosphere of coersion or intimidation.
(where's the eye-roll emoticon when you need one!)
originally posted by: buster2010
Unless the people in here whining Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion have forgotten the church is forbidden from using the pulpit for political purposes. If they want to get involved in politics then they need to give up their tax free status.
originally posted by: buster2010
church is forbidden from using the pulpit for political purposes.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: kaylaluv
And government never does anything over the top or imposes itself in a manner that would create an atmosphere of coersion or intimidation.
(where's the eye-roll emoticon when you need one!)
Hey, who filed the law suit against whom? If you are going to sue someone, be prepared to have your own dirty laundry aired in court.
originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: kaylaluv
and getting a subpoena to turn over all communications sermons ect is in no way threatening?
it won't in any way coerce those pastors or others to change their messages to please the gov't in an attempt to avoid future hassles?
and fox did mention the lawsuit by the way although it being fox I am pretty sure that there is a possibility of it being slanted in some way.
originally posted by: beezzer
originally posted by: kaylaluv
originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: kaylaluv
And government never does anything over the top or imposes itself in a manner that would create an atmosphere of coersion or intimidation.
(where's the eye-roll emoticon when you need one!)
Hey, who filed the law suit against whom? If you are going to sue someone, be prepared to have your own dirty laundry aired in court.
Maybe you're right.
Churches should just keep their mouths shut and obey the dictates of the state.
originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: beezzer
Churches should just keep their mouths shut and obey the dictates of the state.
That is what the bible says, Beez.