A health care worker at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital has tested positive for Ebola

Okay, this seems new but maybe has already been posted. At least it's new to me, as I had previously speculated Pham may have been one of the early people (without protective gear) to help Duncan. At the time it seemed the answer was no. This appears to contradict that?

Medical records provided to The Associated Press by Duncan's family show that Pham helped care for him throughout his hospital stay, including the day he arrived in intensive care with diarrhea, abdominal pain, nausea and vomiting, and the day before he died.

and

Duncan's medical records make numerous mentions of protective gear worn by hospital staff, and Pham herself notes wearing the gear in visits to Duncan's room. But there is no indication in the records of her first encounter with Duncan, on Sept. 29, that Pham donned any protective gear.

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a reply to: ~Lucidity

Regardless if it was initial before they knew it was Ebola at the end of the day once it was confirmed they should have ceased all high risk AGPs and requested support from CDC. The hospital isnt equipped for long term care that is needed.
I dont know fully what the guidelines in US are but here in Aus we have designated hospitals in each state, if someone shows up to an ED and its suspected they are Ebola most of the initial treatment is simply isolate them and arrange how to get them out of the hospital ASAP and to the designated facility that can actually do what is required.

a reply to: D4rcyJones
Nice to know their is intelligent life out there.

Dallas is asking to declare a state of emergency. A press conference at 2:00 central time. Good grief.

This is also on our local news channels.


www.dailypaul.com...

a reply to: ~Lucidity

Mods, please excuse me if this has already been posted.

Today, Nurse Nina Pham will be transferred from Texas Presbyterian to NIH's Biocontainment Unit.
A bit belated, IMHO.I wonder if this is due to a staffing problem, a change in her status, or a desperate move from the WH.

Pham was upgraded to good condition Tuesday and remained good Wednesday, Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas said. She will be transported from Dallas to NIH's isolation unit in Maryland.

Source: www.nbcwashington.com...

WFAA in Dallas is streaming the congressional hearing.

WFAA

Click on the live link on the left of the page.

They are and will be asking the CDC many of the questions we have all been asking each other.

-Cheers

originally posted by: drwill
a reply to: ~Lucidity

Mods, please excuse me if this has already been posted.

Today, Nurse Nina Pham will be transferred from Texas Presbyterian to NIH's Biocontainment Unit.
A bit belated, IMHO.I wonder if this is due to a staffing problem, a change in her status, or a desperate move from the WH.

Pham was upgraded to good condition Tuesday and remained good Wednesday, Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas said. She will be transported from Dallas to NIH's isolation unit in Maryland.

Source: www.nbcwashington.com...

Good, that is where she needs to be. A full bio-hazard facility. I can't remember which cable show I saw it on, but it was said by the director of Presbyterian Hospital, that he feared his staff would walk off the job if the second nurse was not moved out of his hospital.

I would think there would be some anger in staff, being asked to care for an ebola patient that broke protocol by deciding to fly to Cleveland to gather with friends and family to plan her wedding. Instead of staying put as ordered, to self monitor. Plus, now with so many of the qualified staff on paid leave and self monitoring, I'm sure they are short handed.

All positive testing ebola patients should be put in an isolation unit at a hospital when they are identified. Then held for pick up by CDC or NIH for moving to qualified facilities for treatment. Our hospitals are not prepared for a level 4 non treatable disease. They need to be moved and treated with any and all experimental trials meds being developed for ebola, at a facility specifically for that purpose.

The NIH has the Clinical Center, Trials Hospital in Bethesda MD. One of the world's largest rare non-treatable diseases research hospitals. That is where they need to go.

clinicalcenter.nih.gov...

Des

Just heard CDC has put every single hazmat suit on hold..... no vendor is allowed to sell

originally posted by: Seek_Truth
WFAA in Dallas is streaming the congressional hearing.

WFAA

Click on the live link on the left of the page.

They are and will be asking the CDC many of the questions we have all been asking each other.

-Cheers

I'm watching on cable. It's nothing but another political, taking sides, bashing, finger pointing, dog and pony show.

The Obama backers are parroting what he has stated the past 2 days. We can't stop flights from Africa, we need to pour all our funding into stopping ebola in Africa. Only by curing and stopping ebola in Africa can we stop it here in the U.S.

BS!!!!

What about some damn funding for our own damn Country. What's with all this we *owe* it to Africa to make it all better for them, before we can look at stopping it in our own front yard.

I'm so sick of all the politically correct rhetoric in such a serious situation.

*sigh*....

Des

a reply to: drwill
Oh dang. Hmmm NIH now. Vaccine trials?

a reply to: Destinyone
Ha...should have read this first. I hate this phone thingy.

a reply to: blackmetalmist
Isn't Honeywell the biggest producer of BSL4 suits?

On hold to whom? The general public? The only thing I can think is that they wiil reroute them to where they are needed most, and while some may not like this and will see nefarious potential ir intent, it makes sense.

a reply to: texasgirl

Hi,
Thats a bit worrisome.. are there new cases or do you think they are preparing just in case? I know here in Atlanta people are on edge...I do think moving the patients here is freaking people out, especially when we get snapshots of plainclothes folks and some of the health workers not completely geared up. The faculty here on campus though, completely different sentiment...most of us think it is probably the smartest move considering the elaborate bio level 4 resources. I do not understand why they would do aerosol-generating procedures in a hospital without the air pressure measure. Clearly, Dr. Freaky was trying to cover his a@@ again by saying "positive air pressure respirators, devices to protect them from aerosol exposure, and that the respirators are used by people that have worked on ebola patients.....then he quickly follows with the statement that the CDC recommends this..I take that to mean....they probably did not have them or the hospital did not ensure the use..who knows at this point!! it is like dimwits pete and repeat holding the reins. We have a bio level 4 lab for research and there was a lot of speculation of-course about how dangerous it was to do those procedures. I hope all turns out ok there in Texas and you all our in many prayers and thoughts.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

Yes, to the public. I guess they are saving it for their use only. Kinda makes you wonder....

a reply to: blackmetalmist

This is a common strategy in times of crisis and emergency management, to prioritize the disbursement of equipment and supplies. Much as some don't like it and see it as purely evil.

originally posted by: bella2256
a reply to: texasgirl

Hi,
Thats a bit worrisome.. are there new cases or do you think they are preparing just in case? I know here in Atlanta people are on edge...I do think moving the patients here is freaking people out, especially when we get snapshots of plainclothes folks and some of the health workers not completely geared up. The faculty here on campus though, completely different sentiment...most of us think it is probably the smartest move considering the elaborate bio level 4 resources. I do not understand why they would do aerosol-generating procedures in a hospital without the air pressure measure. Clearly, Dr. Freaky was trying to cover his a@@ again by saying "positive air pressure respirators, devices to protect them from aerosol exposure, and that the respirators are used by people that have worked on ebola patients.....then he quickly follows with the statement that the CDC recommends this..I take that to mean....they probably did not have them or the hospital did not ensure the use..who knows at this point!! it is like dimwits pete and repeat holding the reins. We have a bio level 4 lab for research and there was a lot of speculation of-course about how dangerous it was to do those procedures. I hope all turns out ok there in Texas and you all our in many prayers and thoughts.

Thanks! Yes, it's a little worrisome but I really think they're declaring emergency so they can get funding to pay for the cost of medical care, etc...

If they restrict travel to and from Dallas then I might be more worried.

They are moving the patient from Dallas to Bethesda Maryland, that is only 6.7 miles by car or 32 minutes to Washington DC? I checked up on this hospital and clinical studies it is doing and found this.

VRC 207: A Phase I, Open-Label, Dose-Escalation Clinical Trial to Evaluate the Safety, Tolerability and Immunogenicity of the ebola Chimpanzee Adenovirus Vector Vaccine (cAd3-EBO), VRC EBOADC069-00-VP, in Healthy Adults

This study is currently recruiting participants.

and on a previous ebola patient from Sierra Leone recently admitted on September 28 2014

A patient with exposure to the Ebola virus in Sierra Leone has been transferred from an overseas location and admitted to the NIH Clinical Center for observation and to enroll in a clinical protocol. The patient arrived at the NIH Clinical Center on Sunday, September 28, at approximately 4 p.m. ET.

The patient is an American physician who was volunteering services in an Ebola treatment unit in Sierra Leone.

Out of an abundance of caution, the patient has been admitted to the NIH Clinical Center’s special clinical studies unit that is specifically designed to provide high-level isolation capabilities and is staffed by infectious diseases and critical care specialists. The unit staff is trained in strict infection control practices optimized to prevent spread of potentially transmissible agents such as Ebola.

No additional details about the patient are available at this time.

Discharged on October 7 2014

Earlier today the patient who was flown back to the United States from Sierra Leone and admitted to the NIH Clinical Center on September 28 for observation, following a high-risk exposure to Ebola virus infection, was discharged to his home. The patient has given NIH permission to release the following information: The high-risk exposure was a needle stick injury. The initial hospitalization was characterized by a brief period of fever that was subsequently determined to not be related to infection with Ebola virus. Because he had an exposure and a fever, there was a greater chance he had active infection, thus the reason for isolation. Currently, the patient feels well and has no fever. CDC guidelines are being followed and the patient will remain in his home, check his temperature twice a day, until the completion of a 21-day observation period from the time of reported exposure. No additional details about the patient are available at this time.

originally posted by: Destinyone

originally posted by: drwill
a reply to: ~Lucidity

Mods, please excuse me if this has already been posted.

Today, Nurse Nina Pham will be transferred from Texas Presbyterian to NIH's Biocontainment Unit.
A bit belated, IMHO.I wonder if this is due to a staffing problem, a change in her status, or a desperate move from the WH.

Pham was upgraded to good condition Tuesday and remained good Wednesday, Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas said. She will be transported from Dallas to NIH's isolation unit in Maryland.

Source: www.nbcwashington.com...

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All positive testing ebola patients should be put in an isolation unit at a hospital when they are identified. Then held for pick up by CDC or NIH for moving to qualified facilities for treatment. Our hospitals are not prepared for a level 4...
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Des

I'm not medically trained or anything. This is just my opinion on the matter though.

I like what someone said about keeping suspected infected people away from hospitals- to keep the hospitals, the hospital staff, the emergency rooms and the general public safe. How would that happen? Anyone with a sniffle, fever or cough would have to go to an outlying hospital center with a freshly scrubbed-down, PPE garbed, protected admissions worker - to get checked out.

To keep for example an Ebola patient's viruses from contaminating the next patient coming to the outlying centers, the admissions person in PPE will have to have their PPE and surrounding environment doused with chlorine or bleach (or whatever works) after each new visitor.

If the visitor/patient is tested positive for Ebola, they would have to remain isolated in an Ebola ward on some cot in an outlying center for treatment.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

I am sure that those that can not take the plasma from the previous ebola patient doctor that recuperated from ebola will definitely be put on trial treatments like the DOD glaxosmith vaccine and one from Chemtrix I believe is the name of the company of the other one that were approved by the FDA to be use in trial under emergency status.

a reply to: Destinyone

What about some damn funding for our own damn Country. What's with all this we *owe* it to Africa to make it all better for them, before we can look at stopping it in our own front yard.

I'm so sick of all the politically correct rhetoric in such a serious situation.

IMHO, yes. Stop it here, then once that is taken care of, help other countries. Our first responsibility is our own country, and any resources devoted to helping out other countries is resources taken away from helping ourselves.