A health care worker at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital has tested positive for Ebola

originally posted by: Hellas

originally posted by: texasgirl
I was wrong about where the nurse lives. It is actually 3700 Marquita in DALLAS, not Ft. Worth. People in the neighborhood are all standing in the street, on their phones, walking around in pajamas wondering what's going on. There is a large yellow drum for decontamination and several emergency vehicles about.

They must be going through hell, not knowing what is going on and if they're in any risk

Yes, I'm just so thankful it's not in my neighborhood. But it's still too close for comfort!!

I'd like to suggest to some people who are worried about Ebola running wild to relax a little bit. I'm not saying "don't worry", but just relax. This is not something that's currently running rampent around the country. And the odds are that it won't. But obviously, the chances do exist that it could.

If we start running for the hills, locking ourselves in bunkers, and spreading the doom...what good does that do us? All it does is spread paranoia when there isn't really a cause for it. Instead of insisting that it's the end of the world or that we're all going to die, look at it from a different perspective.

Our healthcare system is far more equiped to handle this than possibly any other nation in the world. I have a strong faith that it will be contained sooner rather than later. We have major hospitals all around the country whose awareness is certainly going to be elevated now. They'll institute prevention training at all levels to recognize symtoms and provide treatment/quarantine. They'll refresh themselves on what types of personal protection to use while diagnosing/treating a possible ebola patient.

Compare our sanitation system to that of Africa's....Our access to healthcare compared to that of Africa's...Our access to media platforms that can inform you on symptoms and how to avoid contact with the virus compared to that of a third world country. These are all advantages that much of the rest of the world does not have.

Now consider the things that you can do personally to prevent it. You can inform yourself, and those around you of what to do and what to look out for. Carry a bottle of hand sanitizer with you wherever you go. Give a bottle to your chidren to take to school and instruct them on how often to use it. Donate some hand sanitizer to your childrens school to distrubute to all the classrooms and locker rooms. Talk to the teacher/principal to find out what measures they may be taking. Become involved and attack it....don't sit back and fear it.

The same goes for where you work. Educate your co-workers, talk to your boss and find out what they are doing to help stop it from happening where you work. But be calm about it, offer the information that is fact based instead of spreading lies about it. If it continues to spread, then stop going out on the town. Buy canned goods, cook your own foods, stay away from malls and shopping centers. Ebola can't spread if we don't give it room to spread.

But if we sit here and proclaim the appocolypse after 2 confirmed cases, all we do is spread the fear when we should instead be working together to stop it. Relax, people....I promise you...this is not the end of the world. Sure, some people may die from this. But how many people does the flu kill every year? When was the last major outbreak on U.S. soil? There's more data to suggest that we'll put an end to this sooner rather than later and it won't be as bad as some may think. And in the end...if I'm wrong...you can laugh at me in your bunkers.

Peace,
Joe

a reply to: TDawgRex

They say that virus can survive 4 degrees of celsius which doesn´t sound cold at all, what i am curious about has there been any tests how cold it actually can. We have in Winter -20 and sometimes even -40 Celsius. Cold preserves and heat kills..

originally posted by: texasgirl

originally posted by: Shana91aus
Wow this is really bad! So considering it was at the same hospital as Duncan, was it someone who was treating him then?? Maybe now they will realise hazmat gear is NOT going to help them from being infected. This is bad i really hope that person hasn't been going about their daily life spreading it!

His first visit was misdiagnosed so they probably weren't wearing any kind of protection!

This is terrible!

You should read the article Texasgirl

The nurse was involved in Duncan's second visit to the hospital, when he was admitted for treatment, and was wearing protective gear as prescribed by the CDC: gown, gloves, mask and shield, Varga said.

originally posted by: marg6043

Remember that is those in our nation that will capitalized and profit from worry and scaremongering at our expenses

Yes, you are so right, and that should be guarded against just as much as Ebola....

originally posted by: Staroth

originally posted by: texasgirl

originally posted by: Shana91aus
Wow this is really bad! So considering it was at the same hospital as Duncan, was it someone who was treating him then?? Maybe now they will realise hazmat gear is NOT going to help them from being infected. This is bad i really hope that person hasn't been going about their daily life spreading it!

His first visit was misdiagnosed so they probably weren't wearing any kind of protection!

This is terrible!

You should read the article Texasgirl

The nurse was involved in Duncan's second visit to the hospital, when he was admitted for treatment, and was wearing protective gear as prescribed by the CDC: gown, gloves, mask and shield, Varga said.

Yes, I posted that when the news first broke and they didn't know when she contracted it.

Believe me, I have been keeping up to date with all the info on this.

a reply to: Assassin82

When people get scare, they can not think right, it causes more harm than good, how can we help each other if we all are going to be looking around to people like they are to infects us

This is falling into the hands of those that wants to capitalize on scaremongering.

We should expect more infections, but until those infections starts to spread to other states and increasing that is when we should be concern, because its obvious that our government and those that are getting our tax dollars to keep us safe are nothing but a whole bunch of ineffective morons

In an attempt to turn vehement anger into productivity I have this to say:

I think we can safely say that...

1) It is airborne, and even if it isn't it is so easily spread we might as well treat it like it is.

2) We can't believe anything the CDC says as far as transmission. Information needs to spread like wildfire, if you are involved with anyone in a conversation about this make sure they are educated that it CAN spread through air/food/water.

3) The nurse in Spain probably did not "accidentally touch her face"............. but that is just my opinion.

4) We need to keep the facts as WE know them ever present in our mind because the amount of spin we are about to get is going to be UNREAL.

And texasgirl... how are you holding up? Do you need anything?

a reply to: TDawgRex

Listen to what he is saying....

Emergency services at the hospital are currently suspended - for just two patients - it is already not capable of caring adequately for others. Why? Is it really due to personnel or is it the contagious nature of the virus?

Regardless, now we can really begin to understand the full implications of Ebola for our health care system.

originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: TDawgRex



They say that virus can survive 4 degrees of celsius which doesn´t sound cold at all, what i am curious about has there been any tests how cold it actually can. We have in Winter -20 and sometimes even -40 Celsius. Cold preserves and heat kills..

The colder it is, the longer it survives, and it will survive INDEFINITELY at -70C, so it will survive for prolonged periods of time at those temps you quoted.

Yep this is the one to worry about. It was not the bird flu, swine flu or whatever other plagues that came out before and people chattered about it for weeks dramatizing the hell out of it.

Its this one.. The one the msm and every specialist cdc etc that continues to downplay something they do not even fully understand.

They did not contain it in Dallas, and it appears they will not.. I can only imagine with a good guess that someone will get infected with ebola, and do everything they can to spread it all across Dallas, if they are not already....


Mankind is pretty sick in 2014.. Their are very few left I protect anymore...

originally posted by: ValentineWiggin
In an attempt to turn vehement anger into productivity I have this to say:

I think we can safely say that...

1) It is airborne, and even if it isn't it is so easily spread we might as well treat it like it is.

2) We can't believe anything the CDC says as far as transmission. Information needs to spread like wildfire, if you are involved with anyone in a conversation about this make sure they are educated that it CAN spread through air/food/water.

3) The nurse in Spain probably did not "accidentally touch her face"............. but that is just my opinion.

4) We need to keep the facts as WE know them ever present in our mind because the amount of spin we are about to get is going to be UNREAL.

And texasgirl... how are you holding up? Do you need anything?

I'm doing okay, but the CDC is lying again. They claimed to have been placing flyers and letting everyone know in the neighborhood about this new ebola case but some neighbors have come forward and are saying they didn't get any flyers. One neighbor lives right next door to the complex!

But Mike Rawlins, our mayor, has been walking the neighborhood and telling everyone about it.

Still don't think this proves it is airborne.. much more likely a breach of safety protocol. The U.S. healthcare system hasn't had to deal with this level of contagion in decades. Also, again.. unless the virus has changed the rules by which it plays, it doesn't matter who this worker came into contact with.. she was not symptomatic. She was monitored, and placed in isolation at the first sign of a low fever. So it's PROBABLY fine. Still a level of concern.. but I think folks are still overreacting to be honest.

Worrisome.. but no need to hit the "OMG panic now!" button. So either our protocols for dealing with these sort of virus needs to be carefully and quickly looked at, or yes.. we need to be a bit more worried than before.

originally posted by: Bicent76

They did not contain it in Dallas, and it appears they will not..

...

isnt this new confirmed case in dallas?
if so thats 1 transmission in this country.
how does that make it not contained in dallas?

Discussing this on "Face the Nation". Nothing fresh though. The head of the CDC was very evasive.

A good friend of mine lives in Dallas and just wrote
"Pretty sure I just found out about a third case. One of my friends was woke up by the cdc because his neighbor tested positive. Not sure if it's the same person or not... ugh. This hospital is about 7 minutes from my driveway.... my son was born there"

You won't see that on the news! At least not yet.

a reply to: Xeven
WHY is a JUDGE on the T.V. to quell our fears? WTF?

From the press conference, notice how they moved quickly this time to immediately quarantine and completely disinfect the apartment. They also quarantined the patient's car, and disinfected handrails and other things in the parking lot and common areas where she lived and at the hospital.

I am glad they learned something from the negligence in Duncan's case.

But note - this again shows that they fear contamination of surfaces. They know the danger, but try to gloss over it when they say direct contact with bodily fluids is required. They always omit saying that this includes surfaces that came in contact with bodily fluids.

originally posted by: CardiffGiant

originally posted by: Bicent76

They did not contain it in Dallas, and it appears they will not..

...

isnt this new confirmed case in dallas?
if so thats 1 transmission in this country.
how does that make it not contained in dallas?

Think how many people this nurse came in contact with. Use your head.

originally posted by: CardiffGiant

originally posted by: Bicent76

They did not contain it in Dallas, and it appears they will not..

...

isnt this new confirmed case in dallas?
if so thats 1 transmission in this country.
how does that make it not contained in dallas?

No, I think he meant that Dallas officials were saying it would not spread in Dallas, that it was contained after Duncan.