Obama's face palm-worthy comment on Ebola

a reply to: sheepslayer247

The ebola virus remains on surfaces for hours or even days. The virus is in sweat and saliva, in addition to blood, urine, vomit, etc.

So... someone is sweating with a fever, touches the handrails or seat on a bus. Then the person next to them or behind them touches the same surface, especially if they have a cut or then touch their face, they will have a good chance of catching the virus. It is much more virulent and takes on a fraction of the virus organisms to infect as compared with a flu.

The virus is in the saliva of someone who coughs or sneezes onto a surface in the same manner.

There is a reason they wear hazmat suits to clean up areas where the infected are. There is a reason they searched so hard for the man who was in the ambulance after Duncan. Any "thing" that came in contact with his bodily fluids was infectious for at least some time.

Infected surfaces include surfaces in a bus.

a reply to: BlueAjah

So... someone is sweating with a fever, touches the handrails or seat on a bus. Then the person next to them or behind them touches the same surface, especially if they have a cut or then touch their face, they will have a good chance of catching the virus.

^^^^^

This needs to be highlighted !!

a reply to: BlueAjah
Yes, yes, yes! Thank you, Blue. Let's further set the record straight, please.

1. This is not a "circle jerk" thread.
2. I do not believe a single thing that our idiot-in-chief says. Nor do I necessarily trust the CDC. I'm just saying that POTUS is either lying or can't get the story straight.
3. I do not believe that he caused the Ebola crisis.
4. As Blue so aptly stated it is, indeed, possible to catch Ebola from the sweaty guy sitting next to you & brushing your arm or coughing on you on the bus!!!

'Love the comments about the golf cart and Nancy Pelosi.

originally posted by: sheepslayer247
a reply to: xuenchen

Opinion is one thing, facts are another.

Obama's statement, although stupid in your opinion, is factually correct.

It's totally not factually correct. So stop with that BS. If the ebola guy next to you on the bus sneezes on you, or projectile vomits on you, there's a better than good chance you can become infected too. So it's totally not even close to be anywhere near fact.

a reply to: BlueAjah

I believe Obama did say how ebola can be transferred to others.

His comment, "cannot get [Ebola] through casual contact like sitting next to someone on a bus", may be a bad example, but it's just like saying you cannot catch it from walking past someone with ebola....etc.

Simply sitting next to someone with it will not cause you to catch it. You have to come in to contact with bodily fluids, correct?

originally posted by: Bilk22

originally posted by: sheepslayer247
a reply to: xuenchen

Opinion is one thing, facts are another.

Obama's statement, although stupid in your opinion, is factually correct.

It's totally not factually correct. So stop with that BS. If the ebola guy next to you on the bus sneezes on you, or projectile vomits on you, there's a better than good chance you can become infected too. So it's totally not even close to be anywhere near fact.

Can you catch ebola just by sitting next to someone without transfer of fluids?

No, you cannot. Like I said, bad example, but factually correct. That was his point.

a reply to: graceunderpressure

Sadly Obama was just another bubble head, his intelligence was just an illusion of popularity.

He was never "that bright" we just thought he was.['b]

One would reasonably think that during his years as community organizer he would have served on a few "disaster readiness" committees in which communicable diseases are discussed and plans are made for dealing with same. I make no claims to being a professional "community organizer" but I sat on those committees and participated in those drills for more than a decade---long before ebola hit the spotlight.
Perhaps all those years of planning and preparations for disease outbreaks makes me more cautious because I've been presented with the worst-case scenarios. But then again, maybe our head community organizer didn't attend those sessions because they took away from his time on the golf course. I don't know. I don't know why he would say such an utterly stupid thing about a virus that has been shown to be constantly mutating and is very deadly. It just seems to be more of his magical thinking.
Hmmm---wonder what his reaction would be if it were proven that the dude who jumped the fence was full-blown ebola when he entered the WH?

Just going to point out that the CDC recommendations also specifically point out to avoid public transportation If you traveled to other countries AND If you are symptomatic:

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), however, advises humanitarian aid workers from the United States who travel to countries currently experiencing Ebola outbreaks to “avoid public transportation” if they develop a fever or experience other Ebola-like symptoms while on their trip.

Yes, you are relying on people to exercise common sense, but I still will continue with public transportation in my city and exercise common sense (avoid use when it would be that crowded....it's flu season after all).

Lead by example, either Obama himself, or a member of his administration should travel to Liberia, and ride busses with the locals there. Lots of smiles, hugs, handshakes, all captured in images and video.

Would be a great public relations event.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

There is a thread here with the WHO statement on ebola contamination on surfaces.

originally posted by: ausername
Lead by example, either Obama himself, or a member of his administration should travel to Liberia, and ride busses with the locals there. Lots of smiles, hugs, handshakes, all captured in images and video.

Would be a great public relations event.

Shhhhh!!

Don't give Hollywood any ideas.

This is serious.

originally posted by: sheepslayer247

originally posted by: Bilk22

originally posted by: sheepslayer247
a reply to: xuenchen

Opinion is one thing, facts are another.

Obama's statement, although stupid in your opinion, is factually correct.

It's totally not factually correct. So stop with that BS. If the ebola guy next to you on the bus sneezes on you, or projectile vomits on you, there's a better than good chance you can become infected too. So it's totally not even close to be anywhere near fact.

Can you catch ebola just by sitting next to someone without transfer of fluids?

No, you cannot. Like I said, bad example, but factually correct. That was his point.

How silly are you for attempting to argue what is a horribly incorrect statement? You want to argue the definition of "is" all over again too? We're not talking about having intercourse on a bus where bodily fluids are exchanged, but people spread germs all over by having poor sanitary habits. How do you think germs spread?

Keep arguing your silly point. If the guy left his snot on your seat, or sneezed into his hand and grabbed the handrail and then you did afterward, you'd probably catch it too. If he didn't wash his hands after using the bathroom before getting on the bus, you'd also have the potential for contracting the disease. So yes you can catch ebola from riding the bus. His statement that you cannot is totally and dangerously false. Defending it is idiocy.

originally posted by: sheepslayer247
a reply to: xuenchen

Opinion is one thing, facts are another.

Obama's statement, although stupid in your opinion, is factually correct.

"Factually correct" is up for debate at this point imo and i think a lot of people agree. Just because the CDC wrote it doesnt mean it is the end all truth for this virus. Virus's mutate, people make mistakes whether they're a smart doctor or a president who is apparently so smart he now says everything he means in reverse (Effin really guys?).

How many people have we seen saying "You literally have to bathe in their bodily fluids to get it, literally". Like, yeah im so sure everyone whos caught this disease took a long hot bath in some ebola patients bodily fluids, sounds plausible. Every time someone says it i wish they could have my perception of it so they could realize how absolutely ridiculous it sounds. "Yeah them damned Liberians no wonder they got ebola, ya know with the common practice of bathing in bodily fluids". What, is liberia full of porn stars?

a reply to: Bilk22

You may find it silly, but it is still factually correct.

Have you done any reading in to why Obama made that particular video speech?

He made the speech trying to calm people's nerves and inform people. From what I have seen, there are a lot of people beginning to panic because they are not educated on Ebola.

Part of his message was that you CANNOT get Ebola just by being around them....UNLESS you come in to contact with their bodily fluids and it is NOT AIRBORNE!

Isn't that what you and everyone else is saying? But Obama's a moron for saying it?

Like I said before, it may have been a bad example, but he is trying to inform people, put a stop to some disinformation that is going around, and give them some facts about Ebola to help stop panic and possibly prevent more infections.

You know when you watch someone say or do something so foolish that you experience transferred embarrassment? Where you actually feel what they should be feeling but aren't because they're so blissfully unaware of their own stupidity. That's how I feel reading this thread.

The level of ignorance here makes me ashamed to be an ATS member.

You cannot catch Ebola by sitting next to someone on a bus. Ebola is transmitted via contact with bodily fluids. But facts don't matter in this thread so I'm probably just wasting my time.

originally posted by: Lyxdeslic
I'll totally agree with you there. It's an "Omg. Ebola is Obama's fault" thread.

originally posted by: xuenchen

Obama's not wrong. Yes, it is another Obama-bashing circle-jerk thread. Take his quote out of context and ignore the realities of the virus.

Never mind, you're all right, we're all going to die from ebola and it's Obama's fault. Continue.

originally posted by: muse7
You cannot catch Ebola by sitting next to someone on a bus. Ebola is transmitted via contact with bodily fluids. But facts don't matter in this thread so I'm probably just wasting my time.

Don't waste your energy trying to introduce these clowns to concepts foreign to them like logic, science or facts. It's like trying to reason with a cat.

a reply to: muse7

I've been trying to say that all along, but apparently I'm just a moron.