Politician who wanted to drug-test welfare recipients busted for drugs.

a reply to: Sublimecraft

Considering his father's history with Zapata Oil Company, the Clintons and their powdery noses I wouldn't be a bit surprised.

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: Yeahkeepwatchingme

Good point, for instance, I could have sworn Bush was on crack with half the tripe that came out of his mouth.

Seriously - crack.

Wait?! Was George Bush involved in this scandal or is this a cheap shot by a political tool?

ETA: I would support drug testing for politicians and welfare recipients. Why the heck do we want to subsidize someones drug habit? Duh.

a reply to: Metallicus

It's Bush's fault anyway.

a reply to: cuckooold

Flag, Star, Test and.... Action!
Oh the 9 irony. I couldn't be happier about this for the
sake of another high paid legislator we may be able to
wean from the dreaded weasel dust!

You mentioned lastly in the OP a question that has troubled
me since we lost that original 13th Amendment. It really
DOES seem that the privileged classes are given a pass when
found for even the most heinous infracking.

I propose a sliding scale of enforcement almost directly to the
inverse to what now exists; for the sake of the public good
and safety. It may even fix our upside-down legal world of
SMBS. That's alphabet-agency for Smoke Mirrors and You Know.

For example if one is apprehended for possession of a certain
static quantity of contraband, poverty level income offenders
with no oath of public service should be penalized for the first
offense a fine of the street value of the product and released
with the admonition to sin no more.

In the other extreme for an elected public servant with the
same quantity-- he/she should be penalized for the estimated
multiple of the quantity's cost times the total number of known
users within his constituency... up to and including a judgement
of half the servant's wealth and earnings until his demise.
No jail time, no deals... but you WILL work for us one way or the
other, won't you? Oh yeah, no commutation of funds either. It
goes back directly to the IMF so dese guys get the full cut.

There, that'll straighten them out... screw up and pay da capo.

a reply to: derfreebie

Just so I am clear, you are advocating different penalties, based on your own distinction of classes, for the same crime? If you believe in the constitution, surely this is not what you mean. Please, set me straight.

originally posted by: TycoonBarnaby
a reply to: derfreebie

Just so I am clear, you are advocating different penalties, based on your own distinction of classes, for the same crime? If you believe in the constitution, surely this is not what you mean. Please, set me straight.

I had to return quickly and apologize for not putting a
sarcasm caption around the class struggle. You were
straight, and I was attempting some twisted humor.

With there being no humor whatsoever to a caste
system, we are none the less injured by it, as the
people who are creating the laws are more often than
not protected from their enforced punishments.

I advocate equal protection under the law, surely:
and the same sting of the whip for those breaking it.
Ergo, the percentage of one's time/wealth. As
unfair as it may seem, we all have a finite time... so
may the onus be equitable as I advocated,
regardless of standing .

a reply to: derfreebie

Fantastic.

I like to think I can pick up even written sarcasm most of the time, but I missed that one. Thank you.

Edit: On point, you are spot-on when it comes to a caste system (acknowledged officially, or most often [now] not.)

originally posted by: Yeahkeepwatchingme
Why aren't politicians drug tested? People working with things as simple as dishwashers are often required to be checked. So why aren't those "in charge of the laws" being tested too? Someone working a dishwasher has to be cold sober but a politician doesn't have to be? Sick country.

S + F

I agree with that and I think they should need a license to practice politics too. You need a license to do something as simple as cutting hair but not to make laws that affect every one of us.

originally posted by: TycoonBarnaby
Just a question: If someone who was not paid by tax dollars, and was not receiving government aid paid for by tax dollars, and was a proponent of drug testing welfare recipients was then found to be using drugs, would anyone care?

The reason I pose this is that I only partially agree that this is complete hypocrisy. I for one think if you earn your own way (and yes, that does include politicians... they "do" a job and receive compensation for it,) you should be free to spend your money as you see fit, so long as it isn't hurting anyone else directly.

They're still breaking the law, and that is hypocrisy at its finest, seeing as how they are the ones who make, alter, or abolish these laws on a federal level. These people have watched as hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people have been jailed on petty drug charges, and all the while they are using them, or at least some of them, and they do not care one bit. That is the more important issue, and we should be focusing on that as opposed to how he voted on the drug testing for welfare bill. Although that is also hypocritical. I maintain that most politicians, who all are paid by tax dollars, do not deserve the salary they receive for the job they do.

Their work is incredibly easy, and most of them have zero skills. Politicians are the ones with pretty faces, or those who are persuasive and charismatic enough to convince others that they care about them. The system is set up so that politicians appeal to us, and biologically speaking most people are going to vote for these types of individuals, when they are the worst character types we could have in office. And what we are seeing with politicians is a direct result of how they are chosen. What we should do is what they did in ancient times...Have a lottery for public office. I can guarantee you that we will end up with a better person in office the majority of the time, when compared to who we are voting for now.

a reply to: cuckooold

Aaaaah.... that is sweet music.

There is nothing quite as satisfying to my soul, as hearing hypocrites collapsing their own towers of arrogance.

I always think things like this. Its always the biggest criminals trying to persecute average people for their own misdoings.

originally posted by: whyamIhere
If we Drug Tested Politicians...

They would be no one left.

So when do We start the testing???

The original act was authored by Smith-Inverness(R) and then they found out "the real reason".. Remember the Florida "Pill Mills"? They've been closed by Gov. Scott (R) who spent $75M of $$ He defrauded the US Tax-Sucker to get a job that pays $307k/yr. Gov. Scott replaced the 'Pill Mill' w/His own private business venture, Concierge Drs or 'Strip Mall Drs.' for those who didn't want to visit the regular e.r. at the local hospital, Or those who are un-insured and want to pay $$$.

Part of the law was that the welfare recipient would have to pay for their own drug test. At Fl. hospitals the tests averaged $150. At Gov. Scott's business, the tests cost $34.00 Where would You go??

The initial results were 3.4% tested "Positive" and then those numbers were actually found to be 2.9%... Carl Hiassen a Miami area journalist brought this to the attention of other media and a hearing was held. Gov. Scott then signed the business over to His Wife, so no more "conflict of interest" because evidently, Governors don't ever speak w/their Wives??

Mr, Hiassen then offered to pay for the drug testing of every politician in Tallahassee and guess what? They ALL declined and this law was found to be "unconstitutional"...

The question is: How long does Gov. Scott have to work to get back that $75M or How many scams must He run???

namaste

a reply to: cuckooold

Now if this were an opiate based narcotic it would be ridiculous for anyBody affiliated w/the Gov.t to "buy it"... Look at the opium production in Afghanistan prior to 2001 and what it is now.. If You've read this drivel this far, if Your 'personal retirement account' showed the same growth, You wouldn't HAVE to be a "crooked politician" because that would be taking a cut in pay!!!

If I wasn't a computer neophyte that types w/both index fingers, I think the kids call it "hunting and pecking", I'd show a link w/a neat colored graph that resembles a hypertensive male pre Cialis™, pre Viagra™ and then "after"...

But seeing it is Flori-Duh, I'd opine that coc aine is ¢heap. At least He wasn't jamming marijuana cigarettes in His arm...

Y'all think He would've voted Yes on Prop.2?

An this is why we the people should demand drug tests for all politicians. It may explain some of their violent and odd behavior. I also think that school teachers should be drug tested. The last time it was mentioned in my state, the teachers went wild and showed up at the capitol protesting it. They are around our kids, they should be tested. Politicians are in control of important matters, they should be tested.

I don't mind the thought of politicians using Pot or other Psychedelics... they'd make logical and intelligent decisions for a change.

It's the coke-head, tweaker politicians that are using opioids and alcohol that scare me!

a reply to: RunForTheHills

WOW! I imagine you're the kind of person that blames Obama when you get pickles on your hamburger and didn't ask for them.

But in other thoughts...yes, I believe, our politicians should be tested for drugs (other than MJ).

It is not really hipocracy per say. He bought his drugs with money. This whole thing is irrelevant because food stamps do not exist anymore. The paper food stamps of the past, you could take to a grocery store and get 50% of the value. So you give them a 1 dollar food stamp, they give you 50 cents in cash.

Today its on a card and can only be used for food products. Not even TP can be bought on it. So people can be druggies all they want but I do not know of drug dealers who trade some crack for a loaf of bread. I know this sounds like I am taking his side, not at all, he is a piece of chit. Just saying.
Fire

a reply to: cuckooold
Who performs the drug tests? And how much do they get paid? Lots of people to be tested. Could mean lots of dough. Better to give that money to private enterprise doing important work, than to actually feed a hungry kid.

To test Obama first, he'd have to be proven a citizen first. Including HIS husband.

a reply to: RunForTheHills

a reply to: RunForTheHills Obama probably just smokes weed which truly isn't a drug in my book look at how black his lips is., that's a dead giveaway. But Bush does coke. I notice a lot of racist rednecks do coke explains why they so paranoid and delusional racist nuts.