Feds Spending $ To Study Why Obese Girls Get Fewer Dates

a reply to: Domo1

well....

Plenty of girls begin to gain weight in their teens. I suppose the theory was that they magically lose their social skills.

I have seen the opposite effect, where girls who were awkward or just average through their school years suddenly find themselves in demand in their 20s because they are thin. They do lack the social skills and confidence that the ever-popular girls have.

a reply to: Domo1

The only study I'm interested in is the one that investigate how much money is thrown away every year on pointless studies.

originally posted by: Domo1
Please. Like it or not being obese is not seen as attractive by the vast majority of people. Is that a bad thing? I don't really think so. There are a number of reasons why biologically we would not be attracted to obese people. The health issues, the mobility issues, the mental issues...

Incorrect. For the majority of human history we have associated obesity with wealth, power, and attractiveness. Obese people have financial means which makes them attractive mates. It has only been more recently that obesity has instead been associated with poor self control and an inability to make responsible decisions.

originally posted by: Domo1

“Mounting evidence demonstrates that weight influences intimate (i.e., dating and sexual) relationship formation and sexual negotiations among adolescent girls,” the study’s description says.

The researchers posit that obese girls just don’t have the social skills that non-obese girls do, and that — not their weight — is what causes the differences, and they aim to prove it scientifically.

Please. Like it or not being obese is not seen as attractive by the vast majority of people. Is that a bad thing? I don't really think so. There are a number of reasons why biologically we would not be attracted to obese people. The health issues, the mobility issues, the mental issues...

I think it's very sad that people struggle with weight and the shame that goes along with it, but what is the point of this study? It just seems so blatantly obvious that the problem isn't about social skills but what's attractive. Sure people who are overweight probably are going to tend to be a little more shy and self conscious, but lets not just gloss over the fact that in Western society skinny and fit are considered the beauty standard.

I also fail to see how spending almost 500,000 dollars on this is a good use of our money. Or anyone's time. What about short men? I'm guessing short guys get fewer dates. Doubt that's because they lack social skills.

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It's not a biological thing but social conditioning. There are cultures where fat women are considered attractive, hence girls are force fed high fat foods from around age 9 and up so that they can be obese by adulthood. Futhermore, hundreds of years ago when the majority of people were starved, being fat was a sign of wealth, and thus deemed attractive because it ensured the well being of potential offspring.

The reason we find fat people so unattractive has everything to do with our culture and social conditioning. Basically, being fat means you have access to a excessive supply of food. Of course, in America just about anyone can have access to a ton of disgusting, fattening foods, so the sexual importance of being fat is lost on us. Instead, obesity becomes a sign of poor health. It doesn't help that fat people are portrayed as lazy, unmotivated, etc, either, as that conditions us to dislike them more.

Growing up in the midwest, both of my sisters top 300 each.
Our homecoming queen maybe 200 pounds,
Some I feel bad for, others they created their own problem.
My wife is 98 pounds wet.
Can I have the study money?? 😊
The mechanics and hygiene alone at the larger size are just ridiculous.

originally posted by: merka
The only study I'm interested in is the one that investigate how much money is thrown away every year on pointless studies.

I would not be surprised if there was perhaps a study on that study as well; Though the question remains as to whether or not it is funded.

a reply to: Domo1

It is pretty common these days for science and academia to merge in how they both react with political attitudes to things relating to our society. It's either a subtle agenda, or just they way people roll naturally. Going along with popular themes and sensitivities is especially how the media proceeds, keeping race an issue for decades when people would have learned themselves the right path to take, and we hear in the media right away when someone overweight takes up the middle of a 747, or 2 seats, then self centered airline personnel complain and the media is notified and it gets covered more then a presidential announcement, (but that isn't really a surprise anyways)..

It's an example of the many flaws inherent in people, and shows in most cases they aren't getting ahead of these little tests in life. Failing grade is the normal score for many.

Also, it is the government leaders who love this sort of spending because it advances the current agendas of secular humanism, just like Stalin, Marx, and many more have done in the past, using these long term methods, they take away any other powers that people look toward and turn their attention to the king for deliverance, just like our government is now attempting to convince us they can solve every problem and make us sager, but do the opposite.

All that from making obesity a side show sit com in the news, and when science conducts studies about it? Yes, that is where each pass is started, with agendas to change people's views over time. At least it seems like it could be, and has been true whether or not many involved are unwitting participants or not. Those they just call useful idiots and stick it in some NSA file.

Taking control of your body once you've neglected it until you're suffering the consequences can be the most empowering thing in the world.
To be told that all the pain you're feeling is because you are carrying extra weight, weight that your own bones are telling you is too much. To be shown the damage that was already beginning in my spine was enough to wake me up and make me take control of my health.
I'm eternally grateful for the doctor that told me, "You are the only one who can control how much you weigh. You must learn to eat to live rather than living to eat."
To some that may sound harsh but it was delivered with such love, kindness and understanding that it really made me stop and take stock.
If this study could somehow magically cause every obese person to recognize that their condition is a direct result of their own behavior....it would be a good thing. It would mean that people would no longer have to undergo those awful stomach removal/stapling surgeries.
Whatever the government's purpose in funding this study, I'm doubting that it with the intention of empowering people to take charge of their own health. At present government seems to want everyone's health controlled by insurance and pharmaceutical companies.

As much as I, too, did a massive head slap when I saw the title, I must admit there is something to consider here- like why people become obese.

Yes, thereeare all kinds of reasons, but often it is very sensitive people who become obese.

Sometimes if sensitive individuals are lacking in effective social skills, they not only could turn to food for emotional comfort, but that fat becomes a sort of protective wall from the outside world and others.

For boys, the mass can give them an immpressive image , turning away many potential attackers, and for girls it can keep boys away avoiding heartbreak). For someone emotionally vulnerable, it is NOT better to have loved and lost).

My best friend in high school was cute and thin, until the day shr was attacked by a stranger and raped. A terrible juridic system accused her of provoking the attack because she was wearing shorts and tennis shoes. It was traumatising.
Within a year she became obese and stayed that way a long time.
worked for her. No guys tried to rape her and no one accused her of being sexually provocative.

a reply to: Domo1

They really needed a study?

Being FAT myself, 390 and going down =), used to be 450. Just look at any fashion magazine. Any movie from 90's. People have been conditioned to see thin as attractive. Its not absolute as there are plenty of couples when one is overweight(by alot). Personally i would not want to date a fat person. Unless i was gay, then i would go for William Shattner. Hence, i am not trying to look for a relationship until i drop below 280. Then i can more or less start to look as i go down even more. My logic here is that if i don't want to date a fat girl, why should i assume a fit girl would want to date me, unless she has a thing for fattmans(thank you japanese comics).