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Respected German Journalist Blows Whistle on How the CIA Controls the Media

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posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 02:23 PM
No big surprise to most here.

Some readers will see this and immediately dismiss it as Russian propaganda since the interview appeared on RT. This would be a serious mistake.

Whether you want to admit it or not, CIA control of the media in the U.S. and abroad is not conspiracy theory, it is conspiracy fact

If you want to skip the history lesson and go straight to the interview, here it is:

Here is the link to the article:


What I would really like to know is where all the disinfo agents on here get there marching orders from. I'm sure its a mix of government agencies, corporate interests, religious institutions and maybe even a few secret societies.

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posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 02:40 PM
Think the five eyes document released by Snowden .Lots of dots run threw that and that they have to have agents here .This is a social media site and they work hard within our walls . a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 02:48 PM
That's why they are afraid of the internet and censor so many uploaded videos on youtube. They understand the quiet weapons for silent wars. People are waking up. The media is bought. Every judge is bought. Every senator paid for. Those that can't be bought are blackmailed. Those that can't be either are killed.

posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 02:52 PM
a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

I have not watch much media in years, just once in a while, I got enough with the bubble heads, the play bunnies wanna be the winos and modeling, is just pathetic how the news medias this days is nothing but a fashion show of bull crap.

Hardly any news at all.

posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 02:54 PM
I'm actually amazed that some people dismiss these types of claims as wacky conspiracy theories and truly believe that they get the real, cold hard facts from their evening news. As with anything, it's a constant sell job and i think more and more people are waking up and no longer buying it.

The part that gets troubling is where laws start to get passed that suppress the free flow of information and allow for the persecution of those who distribute this type of information that the government has deemed false.

The true fight is for the freedom of the internet from the same type of censorship that goes on in all major media outlets and the mere fact that the government is fighting against that idea, and that they desire to control the flow of information on the web should be a huge red flag to people.

posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 02:57 PM
I wonder what the title of the book is?

posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 03:00 PM

Whether you want to admit it or not, CIA control of the media in the U.S. and abroad is not conspiracy theory, it is conspiracy fact

I haven't trusted any media outlets/News sources for quite some time now, Be they Foreign or Domestic.

Some readers will see this and immediately dismiss it as Russian propaganda since the interview appeared on RT. This would be a serious mistake.

I don't dismiss it at all, When will RT do a report on how they themselves are owned by and dictated to by the Kremlin as well?

posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 03:03 PM
a reply to: kicked

"it's a constant sell job and i think more and more people are waking up and no longer buying it."

Reading many of the posts here on ATS - I think many people *are* buying it. And these are 'skeptical' people on ATS; Imagine the general public.

Then there are those who deep down know exactly whats going on, but play along and put on a good act (and maybe they don't even know they are doing it at a certain level of awareness). They play along because they know that something is in it for them and it is their team after all.
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posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 03:10 PM
He's obviously suffering delusion


posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 03:10 PM
Democracy, Human Rights and common sense serve no purpose anymore - there's no money to be made. Conflict, polar idealism and war is business, and business is good.

Whether this is being conducted by one group or many, and whether it is intentional or not, has no bearing on the morality, or decency of it all. Only through massive depopulation and destruction will the world wake up.

WWIII started many years ago and we are currently living it. The only end will be the mass destruction of all human endeavors, which will force the "strong" (the oligarchs) to bow to the "weak" (the people).

Take care of yourselves now and fight/hope for the best. We've got some bad years ahead of us, no matter how the "enemy" is painted or defined to each culture.

posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 03:23 PM

originally posted by: kicked
I'm actually amazed that some people dismiss these types of claims as wacky conspiracy theories and truly believe that they get the real, cold hard facts from their evening news.

It is precisely these people who keep intelligence agencies afloat. The way they operate in non-official ways all around the world, makes claims about their professional methods impossible to prove. Our society is one that takes more stock in visual images than actual substance. Why? Because it's easy to prove what you see, rather than what you hear. Remember the beheading video's? It was the visual aspect of those that got everyone's panties in a ruffle. Beheadings go on over there all the time, but when we SEE it.........oh my, the outrage.

Agencies like the CIA know this is the way most Americans will react and use this naive and childish way of living to their advantage. Like the interviewee said, war does not materialize from itself. You need people to push for it, and the people who are pushing for it are the people whose jobs depend on war: Agencies like the CIA.

Think about this. The FBI is an internal agency. It deals with domestic issues. The CIA is external. It deals with foreign issues and the most important foreign issue there is that keeps their job relevant, is war. And just like anyone else who has a good paying job, they will do whatever it takes to keep that job. Knowing all the of technology they have at their disposal, coupled with the FACT that without the CIA there would be no divisions between countries that would lead to war, make these people the most dangerous people on the planet.

People say it doesn't affect them directly. This is true. But it affects them indirectly by way of compromising the ways of life of the coming generations. All the money that could be spent on domestic issues to keep Americans in a productive, peaceful and intelligent way of life, are pissed away on the war machine by way way of the non official methods of coercion that the CIA use to keep wars and skirmishes going. To keep their jobs relevant. Trust me, if the CIA, KGB (Who are more alike in methods of operation than people realize) and like agencies disappeared in a cloud of smoke, you would be surprised at how peaceful this world would become.

I wonder if we could handle that at this point. We treat peace as if we're visitors in a foreign country who don't know the language or the customs.

posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 03:42 PM


To get a concise an clear understanding of what Courier Mail have done; you first need to read the article published by ABC below.


An article which gives the following key points which to remember before reading News Corps own fabrication of events.

• An impression that although the man was originally found in his car when police arrived; that for the most part throughout the siege he was within his house. Something which is illustrated by the fact that the police needed to give him a cell-phone in order to speak with him.
• That the police needed to make a split-second decision when the man emerged at 4PM, as he had ‘what appeared to be’ a gun in his hand.
• That in that split-second the police didn’t have time to think about whether or not the gun was real.
• That the residents of the neighbourhood watched the drama unfold from a nearby park
The reason I have illustrated these couple points to you is because it is the police themselves giving you the important understanding of the fact that; it was only when the man emerged at 4PM that they saw ‘what appeared’ to be a gun. And that from their other comments regarding it being a split-second decision; we are given and understanding that the gun only came into the events which unfolded, at those seconds when the police chose to shoot him.

An understanding that (by ABC’s claim) came from the Police themselves.

So now we move on to the Courier Mails fabrication of events. Where they give a completely different ‘spin’ on events.


I am sure you are a highly intelligent man, and that you will be able to see the many holes in their story when it is held up to the ABC version; but I am going to put the holes into as much detail as I can for you; in case you miss something.

The Courier Mail article starts by use the emotionally confronting article heading;


An outright lie within the very heading of the article.

It first states that;

HE STRUGGLED with relationships. To read and write. To hold down a job. And it was a struggling Shaun Kumeroa who pleaded for his daughter while ‘BRANDISHING A HAND GUN FROM THE FRONT SEAT OF HIS CAR’ on Monday.

This stands out as interesting after reading the earlier article, when you consider that the OFFICIAL POLICE STATEMENT said that they were unsure if WHAT APPEARED to be a handgun was real or not. And they needed to make a split-second decision.

The second interesting thing here; is that police stated that he had EMERGED with a hand-gun.

Yet somehow, Courier Mail seem to have a more detailed version of events to offer us then the police on scene; one in which he is BRANDISHING a hand-gun!

Next their story claims; “Neighbours have recalled how they told Mr Kumeroa “Don’t do it, mate” as he slumped in his car clutching a gun.”

Neighbours claim? Convenient unnamed neighbour? We are lead to assume that this neighbour is the one who gave them their information about a gun being brandished. But more to the point; that the police had allowed this unnamed neighbour to be part of the negotiation process. Which gave him the opportunity to be able to tell him ‘not to do it’.

Was this neighbour the specialist negotiator they got in? If so, no wonder it ended badly.

The next interesting thing I noticed with this story; was that in their version he stayed in his car the whole time.

The only reason I can think of that they would now say he was in his car; is to cover their asses if they were asked why they thought he had a gun. Because it would have been rather hard for a news report to substantiate ‘Brandishing’ of a gun when he was inside the house and they couldn’t see him.

OK, so he’s in the car. Let’s go with that. What other reason could there be for him to now be in the car the whole time?

The article goes on to say; “Nigel Butkowski said he spoke to the distressed man from his bedroom window about 20m away. “I said, ‘Don’t do it, mate, don’t do it’,” he said. “He wasn’t erratic; he was basically sitting there looking straight ahead.””

Ahhhhhhhhhh!! THERE WE GO! Because being outside in the car also presented the opportunity for the reporters to name their witness and how they obtained their source of information.

So was Nigel Butkowski the unnamed neighbour from the previous paragraph? The one who may, or may not also be a police negotiator? I raise this point again because of the fact that they claim he was close enough to the victim to be able to talk to him. A man who was supposedly so dangerous that he ended up being shot and killed by the police. Dangerous enough that heavily armed police locked-down the neighbourhood for four hours …

Yet, somehow … In the middle of the neighbourhood being locked down … There 20 metres away talking to the victim, having a good ‘ol yarn was Nigel Butkowski! News Corps named witness; come to save the day by telling him not to do it. Go Nigel!

But it wasn’t only Nigel allowed to be there assisting the police in the siege. His partner Shelly Redding was also there! ‘Keeping watch’, until the Police told them they were in the line of fire.

In the what? What fire? He hasn’t emerged with a gun yet!

So what Shelly is basically saying; is that the police allowed a couple of civilians to ‘keep watch’ and hold the fort while they went and locked down the neighbourhood; which they did from their bedroom window 20 metres away; until the bedroom was deemed to be in the line of fire.

Does this mean the police went straight from; letting anyone in the neighbourhood ignore their lock-down so they could go have a chat with the victim … to setting up snipers in the neighbours bedroom?

I guess setting up in the neighbours bedroom 20 metres away would give them a nice clear shot if they needed to shoot him. Heck it’s close enough to have a chat. But wouldn’t it then also be close enough that they could have clearly see whether the guy had a gun or not??

OK, so now News Corps witness Nigel has police snipers in his bedroom …

“They were saying to him, ‘Get out, get out, drop all weapons’,” Ms Redding said. “He was off with the fairies somewhere.”
She said the man appeared to be asking for his daughter. When they rolled a bottle of water to him, she said he replied: “You could have brought it down — I’m not going to shoot anyone.”

Off with the fairies? This must have been what made him seem so dangerous to them! I know that every time I see someone lost in thought, or off with the fairies. It makes me fear for my life! Telling him to drop all weapons? The other report said they didn’t even know he had a gun til they shot him; now he has multiple weapons?

But because he’s off with the fairies; they forget about demanding him to get out of the car, and instead roll him a bottle of water.

Though the ‘off with the fairies’ line is very subtle; I’m sure you know this lie has been cleverly crafted into the story for the very distinct purpose of further developing the ‘he was suicidal’ impression upon any member of the public reading the story; which had its foundation laid in the previous story.
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posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 03:42 PM
It is a very clever tactic for publically assassinating the character of a victim; by gradual inclinations of perception towards the persons emotional state. Firstly; ABC included some quotes in their story from a mental health professional, promoting ‘support for suicide’. Something which, within the body of the stories facts; had absolutely no supporting relevance to the story. But it did plant an ‘inception-style’ thought in the back of the mind; “This guy must have been suicidal”. Then Courier Mail took this and ran with it.

Here, within this story they added a little more to this to remind you that he was suicidal; a small lie here so you will believe it.

“He was off with the fairies.”

The man appeared to be asking for his daughter. The wording here is fairly clever, vague ambiguity which they could then later retract as innocently speculative if their lie gets them into trouble. But the comical element of this statement is ‘appearing’ as if he was asking; is because they were supposed to have been cleared from the scene by now.

The police only took over negotiations from Nigel and Shelly when they set their snipers in the bedroom. So how did they know what conversation was happening between the police and suspect when they weren’t there?

The previous article clearly stated; that residents were made to watch the drama unfold ‘from a nearby park’.

And now they roll him a bottle of water? And from the nearby park; they hear him tell the police “you could have brought it down, I’m not going to shoot anyone”. Good hearing!

NOW! The BIGGEST problem between the ABC version of events and the Courier Mail story? Which I believe is going to be very hard for them to explain??

If the Police can roll him a bottle of water and talk to him; is his car. Then why in the ABC version of events did they need to take him a mobile phone so they could call him and negotiate??

I call you out Courier!

This is where it gets really interesting!

Who is Mr Nigel Butkowski? Or Shelly Redding? Well; you are probably well versed enough in the industry to know that they don’t appear to exist.

Nigel Butkowskis two blank facebook pages have one friend between them; a ‘Sarah Maree Butkowski’,but a quick investigation into her and she appears to be a very well-constructed fake account. One that’s been used for a while. And quite comical to me, scrolling through the list of friends for Miss Butkowski is that a lot of them seem to be fake shell accounts as well.

The fake witness network!

It doesn’t really matter though if they are real or not(though I doubt they could ever prove that they are) because either way; there is probable fabrication taking part on their behalf here. Falling outside of police reports of what took place.

“Mr Kumeroa’s Queensland relatives told The ¬Courier-Mail they were in mourning and did not want to speak. But his New Zealand-based family described him as a hard worker who had had “some struggles”.
“He was certainly a nice guy (but) like anybody had his problems. He had some personal issues,” said one relative, who did not want to be named.
“On the occasions I have spent with him, he has always been a hell of a nice guy … and he’s obviously had some struggles there.””

As I’m sure you’ve seen done within the industry; here it appears that have used a 3-step progressive perceptive conditioning of the reader, towards the character assassination of the victim.

The Queensland family of the victim didn’t want to comment. The New Zealand family of the victim described him as a hard worker, who had had ‘some struggles’.

If someone asked you to describe any of your family members that had just passed; which you are supposed to love; would your defining character statement about their life be, “They worked hard”?

It’s the first of their self-created quotes; one aimed at being non-objectionable to any family member who might read the story. Then for the second-progressive step; at the end of this they added that he had had ‘some struggles’.

Another non-objectionable quote delivered in their gradient repetition towards destroying his character.

Everyone in life has ‘struggles’ so it should be an innocuous enough statement that no-one will ever question its source within their family.

For the third stage of their gradual increase, the throw the family behind the ’suicide by cop’ angle. Stating a family member said “He had some personal issues.” The family member who DOES NOT WISH TO BE NAMED!

It was my understanding of this which prompted me to write this to you; as I believe such tactics to be disgusting beyond words.

“Any journalist who can’t write a story worth reading, without having to fabricate the depth of its content; should be doing data entry. Not reporting the news.”

And if I am right that the quotes regarding the family were completely fabricated; then the part that really disgusted me, is that it was done projecting them as having moral and ethical virtues, for the fact that they would not give the name; ‘because the family member didn’t want them to’.

And it is from here that they then go on to COMPLETELY assassinate the man’s character. So that by the end of the article they hope to leave the reader with no doubt in their mind; that the man committed suicide!

This is trial; and execution by media!

I actually doubt that this man did much wrong at all; and I honestly believe that they are trying to assist the police in ‘sweeping it under the rug’.

Those who are directly responsible for the compilation and fabrication of this story are;

Thomas Chamberlin: Crime reporter. [email protected]

Kate Kyriacou: Crime reporter. [email protected]

Greg Stolz: Gold Coast Bureau Chief. [email protected]


Teuila Fuatai from the NZ HERALD

I hope that what I have written might be of some use to you.

And may I suggest, if it is; that you make the family quite aware of who it was from the NZ Herald who supposedly got a statement from them.

So that if they want to call the Courier Mail out on a lie; they know who to contact.

posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 03:54 PM
It's all me. I admit it. I'm coming clean.
I am the one in control of everything.
It's been good for some laughs.
I think I'm about ready to retire.
I apologize for any inconvenience.
You may now return to controlling your own reality.

posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 03:56 PM
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posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 04:06 PM

originally posted by: douglas5
posted already

Douglas; you should read my comments above.

posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 05:28 PM
a reply to: BOOKOFTHOTH

i thought you published a book there

ps i have avery short attention span

posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 05:33 PM
a reply to: DeepImpactX

You're spot-on with your comments. The sad thing is that there are many honest intelligence personnel out there, but they don't even know they are being manipulated by the system. They have good intentions, but it's not what they signed up for...

posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 06:01 PM
a reply to: DeepImpactX

I agree with everything you say. A very articulated post, thank you.

Remember the beheading video's? It was the visual aspect of those that got everyone's panties in a ruffle. Beheadings go on over there all the time, but when we SEE it.........oh my, the outrage.

Thats the thing- these types of things are getting massive media coverage and, while they are gruesome, they happen a world over. But what of the fact the the states southern border is completely open to MS-13, and the like, who commit similar and even worse atrocities. It's a distraction from true happenings, hypocrisy at it's finest, and a selective agenda.

posted on Oct, 10 2014 @ 01:06 AM
Truth is supplemented by sensationalism to gain your attention which is the most valuable thing on the planet.

This is a more subtle form of propaganda and the deadliest actually.

A good measure of the world's progress would be to ask everyone who Edward Snowden is.

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