A Riddle and A Mystery for ATS to Solve - The Dark Goat

what is the flaming sword?

Fear I think.

The yoked leader of the house gathers the inhabitants to the entrance to reveal the secured nourishment in the wilderness, contained in righteous work, allowing passage bound to the Shepard across chaos, continuing to protect the seeds and knowledge toward the stronghold trail, the origin of light on the horizon, where the first two were marked by darkness...under the shade of knowledge.

We are to journey with the Messiah, bearer of all sins, who will protect us along the path back to the origin of sin, Eden, where Adam and Eve ate of the Tree of Knowledge. The Messiah will restore Faith in the Garden by repenting the Original Sin, this made possible by bearing all of Adam and Eve's + descendant's sins, holding everyone witness, asking for forgiveness and re-entry into the Kingdom. The mark will be lifted, sins forgiven, Heaven shall rejoice, Man has come home.

We must become clean through penitence, return the pure knowledge to its origin, and release our Savior from bondage.

a reply to: WarriorOfLight96

52 “Woe to you experts in the law, because you have taken away the key to knowledge. You yourselves have not entered, and you have hindered those who were entering.”

Remember the bushel of grain and then think of it being hidden under the Thet. Research the Thet from the mystical meanings pdf.

"The tet is the initial letter of the word tov, “good.” The form of the tet is “inverted,” thus symbolizing hidden, inverted good–as expressed in the Zohar: “its good is hidden within it.” The form of the letter chet symbolizes the union of groom and bride consummating with conception. The secret of the tet (numerically equivalent to nine, the nine months of pregnancy) is the power of the mother to carry her inner, concealed good – the fetus – throughout the period of pregnancy."

Luke 11

52 “Woe to you experts in the law, because you have taken away the key to knowledge. You yourselves have not entered, and you have hindered those who were entering.”

The keys are the letters (seed). Today, science hides what they know about DNA from the public. It's the same story. The evidence is there and they have not revealed it to humanity.

a reply to: WarriorOfLight96

Could it be Christ is the tree of life?

The Hebrew Kabbalistic interpretation are the Ten Sephirot. They are really describing the characteristics of Christ.

Colossians 1

15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

I would say the letters of the Father make the Word. A tree grows from the acorn, or letters inside the shell. The first seed was broken into male and female. The world corpus means body and the word religion is the rebuilding of the corpus.

Leaves from the tree of life are not its fruit. The leaves heal the nations. Considering a fig tree, the fruit is hidden by the leaves because the leaves appear as the figs. The fruit must be searched out. Leaves protect the fruit, or the thing that grows from the tree of life. DNA is the tree of life and we are the fruit. What heals the fruit and keeps is hidden and safe?

The tree of knowledge is language. What parallel do we see between language and DNA? DNA is the other tree, or tree of life. The book of life records the fruit, which is what we must produce to use the water of baptism. We must be born again.

Matthew 3

7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to where he was baptizing, he said to them: “You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath? 8 Produce fruit in keeping with repentance. 9 And do not think you can say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham. 10 The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.

11 “I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me comes one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. 12 His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor, gathering his wheat into the barn and burning up the chaff with unquenchable fire.”

If you have been studying the letters from the PDFs I provide, you see there the Mem (Water), the Mattock (winnowing fork), the seed and so on. The letters become the framework for you to then see the words by the story they tell. Healing the nations is fixing babel. There is a hint here of the Ghah in the eye. What parallel does babel have for DNA? What is fixed along with the language?

Like a cloud, the leaf of the tree covers from the light. The veil is a good clue to this. The material world is a type of leaf so to speak. We imagine an actual tree with leaves on our tongue, healing our injuries. In fact, the leaves are symbolic of the filter diffusing the light.

Too much heat and the fruit withers from the sun. The same sun that melts wax hardens clay. Fruit hangs on a tree and brings the limb low to the ground. It's a burden for the tree, but then allows the fruit to safely drop on the ground to release the seed. I am getting this all from the Lexicon and the other document. It's endless. I could keep going because it is all connected and tells you what is actually going on.

originally posted by: AlephBet
a reply to: WarriorOfLight96

52 “Woe to you experts in the law, because you have taken away the key to knowledge. You yourselves have not entered, and you have hindered those who were entering.”

Remember the bushel of grain and then think of it being hidden under the Thet. Research the Thet from the mystical meanings pdf.

"The tet is the initial letter of the word tov, “good.” The form of the tet is “inverted,” thus symbolizing hidden, inverted good–as expressed in the Zohar: “its good is hidden within it.” The form of the letter chet symbolizes the union of groom and bride consummating with conception. The secret of the tet (numerically equivalent to nine, the nine months of pregnancy) is the power of the mother to carry her inner, concealed good – the fetus – throughout the period of pregnancy."

Luke 11

52 “Woe to you experts in the law, because you have taken away the key to knowledge. You yourselves have not entered, and you have hindered those who were entering.”

The keys are the letters (seed). Today, science hides what they know about DNA from the public. It's the same story. The evidence is there and they have not revealed it to humanity.

I KNEW it related to a woman and childbirth....

OK, following that trend of thought, the Bible does say that in the Garden, it would be the seed of the WOMAN that would bring redemption and then in the book of Revelation it makes the statement, "the whole world groans, like a woman that travails in child birth".

The double stranded helix of females is XX. But where are you leading this idea toward?

Eve, the mother of all living. Eve is Chava, or life. There can be no life without the mother. The father can spew his seed wherever he wants, but without her there is no continuance.

a reply to: Boscov

That's actually a nice version in some respects. Do research on the Thet and the purpose of creation, then realize there are many opposites being joined. Heaven and Earth are upper and lower waters. When a child is born, what breaks? What is the flood by comparison, or beasts in an ark traveling to the safety of dry land? Joining heaven and earth is like saying the ultra holy and wicked finding a mean. Righteousness often becomes self-righteousness, which is as bad as wickedness. Each seeks to rise above someone in pride. The true sage knows the destination of the pendulum. What is the Neutron by comparison? The neutral. God keeps no records of wrongs. He desires Mercy and not sacrifice. The righteous and wicked must be united. Pathos is the key to changing the authority to unity with multiplicity. Before multiplicity, unity was alone. Truth is the thing that sets it all free.

When the Tzadikim is revealed, this hidden goodness unites all opposing forces into one unified multiplicity. This is the state of being that is in the world, but not of the world. It transcends the world, yet still retains the capacity to be in and affect the world. A truly good person does this by suffering for others.

originally posted by: WarminIndy

originally posted by: AlephBet
a reply to: WarriorOfLight96

52 “Woe to you experts in the law, because you have taken away the key to knowledge. You yourselves have not entered, and you have hindered those who were entering.”

Remember the bushel of grain and then think of it being hidden under the Thet. Research the Thet from the mystical meanings pdf.

"The tet is the initial letter of the word tov, “good.” The form of the tet is “inverted,” thus symbolizing hidden, inverted good–as expressed in the Zohar: “its good is hidden within it.” The form of the letter chet symbolizes the union of groom and bride consummating with conception. The secret of the tet (numerically equivalent to nine, the nine months of pregnancy) is the power of the mother to carry her inner, concealed good – the fetus – throughout the period of pregnancy."

Luke 11

52 “Woe to you experts in the law, because you have taken away the key to knowledge. You yourselves have not entered, and you have hindered those who were entering.”

The keys are the letters (seed). Today, science hides what they know about DNA from the public. It's the same story. The evidence is there and they have not revealed it to humanity.

I KNEW it related to a woman and childbirth....

OK, following that trend of thought, the Bible does say that in the Garden, it would be the seed of the WOMAN that would bring redemption and then in the book of Revelation it makes the statement, "the whole world groans, like a woman that travails in child birth".

The double stranded helix of females is XX. But where are you leading this idea toward?

Eve, the mother of all living. Eve is Chava, or life. There can be no life without the mother. The father can spew his seed wherever he wants, but without her there is no continuance.

Mother and Father are the Strong Nuclear Force. Both Neutron and Proton. Electrons are free. Compare the Prodigal Son to the Electron. Compare a dual strand of DNA to a single strand. Two become one (transcription / chirality) and come together. It's a quantum event, like the two halves of the brain working in unison. What happens if it is not a duality, but a trinity?

Ecclesiastes 4 (under the sun or over? In or out?)

7 Again I saw something meaningless under the sun:

8 There was a man all alone;
he had neither son nor brother.
There was no end to his toil,
yet his eyes were not content with his wealth.
“For whom am I toiling,” he asked,
“and why am I depriving myself of enjoyment?”
This too is meaningless—
a miserable business!

9 Two are better than one,
because they have a good return for their labor:
10 If either of them falls down,
one can help the other up.
But pity anyone who falls
and has no one to help them up.
11 Also, if two lie down together, they will keep warm.
But how can one keep warm alone?
12 Though one may be overpowered,
two can defend themselves.
A cord of three strands is not quickly broken.

Triple Strand. Bringing Heaven (God's Image of Father and Mother) into the Son in unity. Trinity. Not only does the groom and bride join together, but the family is reunited as one. Mother, Father, Son (daughter). Just as Mankind includes both male and female, so a Son complete is both male and female (image of God). Holy Spirit is the last to appear on the radar of mankind's eye.

-Adam to Abraham - Age of the Father (2000 years / 2 days)
-Issac to Jesus - Age of the Son (2000 years / 2 days)
-Church (resurrected body of Christ) to Today (2000 years / 2 days)

Mankind showed up on day Six. New mankind will as well. Not before Catharsis. You see the Father, the Son, then the mother recovering from birth. She is the Holy Spirit, or the next to be revealed in us.

The image of God is BOTH male and female, or the original state of Adam before Eve.

Matthew 22:30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.

We will all rest for 1000 years.

Isaiah 26

19 But your dead will live, Lord;
their bodies will rise—
let those who dwell in the dust
wake up and shout for joy—
your dew is like the dew of the morning;
the earth will give birth to her dead.

20 Go, my people, enter your rooms
and shut the doors behind you;
hide yourselves for a little while
until his wrath has passed by.
21 See, the Lord is coming out of his dwelling
to punish the people of the earth for their sins.
The earth will disclose the blood shed on it;
the earth will conceal its slain no longer.

Bearing fruit is seed for the next life.

a reply to: AlephBet

And is the mother Hockmah? The goddess of wisdom? Or wisdom herself, justified of her children, her voice cries out in the streets for those to come and learn of her?

You know wisdom is given female aspects in the Bible

originally posted by: AlephBet


When Pythagoras used a monochord to find the nodal points on the string, he then deduced the mathematical ratio to find the 8 steps of a major scale and the 12 steps of the chromatic. If you play a guitar, then you have heard harmonics when a finger is held lightly over a nodal point, then the string is plucked. Nodal points are the result of physics acting by law through the vibration of a medium. All music results from this relationship of law as restriction on matter. The same holds true for movies and expressions of the mind in a medium. There are patterns governed by law and fractal mathematics.

A: 2AB over A+B = A+B over 2 :B

The harmonic mean
2AB
----
A+B

The Arithmetic Mean

A+B
----
2

Ratio: 6:8::9:12

6:8 is a fourth
6:9 is a fifth
8:12 is a fifth
8:9 is a tone
6:12 is an octave

This is the foundation he found that then suggested the rest. Your soundtracks, while intelligently designed, are codependent on the law that governs them. Creation is the same from God's image. It is invariant, just as great music moves the soul. A good movie does the same when it is constructed with good theory. Music theory is the understanding of laws governing the performance.

Arrange it as you like, but you get the same result by ratio. Creativity is yours guided by the Spirit you are given. That's so amazing to contemplate. The closer we get to the foundation, the more mastery we gain. He makes us work for it for sure.

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This is incorrect .The Pythagorean tuning is based on stacked intervals of a perfect 5ths which is the ratio of 3:2.For the most part Pythagorean tuning isn't used much any more because it does not calculate to a 2:1 ratio octave .The "equal tempered tuning" began it's use around Bach (1700's)time and is used in the majority of music so compositions can be played in relative tuning in all keys and octaves without "sounding" out of tune.

As usual you are rambling in gibberish about things you know nothing of and acting like you do know.Music is NOT mystic cosmic vibrations it is music.Your "theory of music composition(as all your false belief theories) are more of your gibberish that has no meaning.

originally posted by: Rex282
double post

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a reply to: Rex282

I guess for him, music is the food of love, so play on.

But AlephBet isn't asking the spiritual force he is connecting to on the other side just what it is. Jim Morrison seemed to tap into a spiritual force, I have to say that after seeing his possession on stage that he did break on through to the other side. Was it the music? Was it the lyrics? The message is very clear in what they are saying, but music has historically been used to push someone into a trance and they become possessed. It happens on a small scale to everyone, but through the lyrics you are taking in the worldview of someone else but to never question just what spiritual force you are connecting to, that's the tragedy.

There are many people who think the whole spiritual side is all good, but on that side, there is good and evil, but people don't want to think they can be carried away by those forces. Does music affect people? Absolutely. As a filmmaker and fil reviewer, I know this basic concept.

Look at it this way, suppose you have just shot a house and the lighting is normal for the daytime, but with that same shot, if you played a happy, jingly tune, then the audience is going to think it is a comedy, but if you take the same house and play sinister or dark music, then the audience will know it is going to be a horror film.

These are simply constructs the director uses in creating a film. The end product is the result of the director's choices in what music to play, how to set the lights and what angles the camera operator should use. Everything works toward one product and that is what you see on the screen. Music does have the power to influence, that's why it is used in film.

Haven't you ever felt a little pumped up when Rocky runs through Philadelphia to the strains of Gonna' Fly Now or do you feel a little creepy when you hear the duuuuum dum..................duuum dum............duuumm dum..dum dum dum dum as Jaws gets just a little closer?

You know music evokes emotions in you.

Just a quick question, when you die are you being born again and is that why people see a light at the end of the tunnel as if your being born into spirit. This has been floating around my head lately and feel like why Yeshau was feeling a little troubled when he knew what was to come and why he said the flesh is weak but over came it.

originally posted by: WarriorOfLight96
Just a quick question, when you die are you being born again and is that why people see a light at the end of the tunnel as if your being born into spirit. This has been floating around my head lately and feel like why Yeshau was feeling a little troubled when he knew what was to come and why he said the flesh is weak but over came it.

No, being born again means of your spirit, in this life. What you are thinking is reincarnation. Of course He overcame the flesh, that means He overcame every base temptation and passion that all flesh is subject to. The flesh doesn't mean your skin and body, it means those things that cause you to attempt to satisfy lusts for whatever you think you need but you don't.

a reply to: WarminIndy

I don't mean reincarnation but being born to the spirit, when you don't need the flesh or the shell but what is inside of you the soul. Th soul being born through death to another plain of existence not back into this world and so we everything comes to an end.

originally posted by: WarriorOfLight96
a reply to: WarminIndy

I don't mean reincarnation but being born to the spirit, when you don't need the flesh or the shell but what is inside of you the soul. Th soul being born through death to another plain of existence not back into this world and so we everything comes to an end.

You already have a soul, which is what Jesus was reminding Nicodemus. Jesus said "Art thou not a master in Israel?" meaning "don't you already know this?" Born of the Spirit and of water, in this life. That's what the Bible means, to repent and come out of sin, then being born again of the Spirit of God, that new creature in this life.

What is the purpose of redeeming mankind from sin if man isn't required in this life to turn away from sin? It is about a life lived in holiness and that's what people don't want in this life. Their idea of holiness is just being a good person without considering deeply what is within them and that they are not really the good person they thought they were.

Could you say right now with 100% certainty that you are a good enough person to stand before a holy and just God with the condition that you are in if you die? That's what Jesus reminded over and over, it doesn't matter how good you think you are, how many sacrifices you offer, how many laws you keep, if your heart isn't changed toward godliness then all your efforts are in vain. That's the teaching that has escaped people over and over, they follow what they think is godliness without knowing or understanding that at this present moment, as God is everywhere, they cannot be in the presence of God in fellowship.

Remember what God said to Cain "Sin lies at the door and desires to have rule over you". When you understand that as Cain was, you are. Cain became a man most miserable because he choose to flee and never try to overcome the wickedness of his heart. God even put a mark on Cain that no man would kill him, which only added to his grief because he had a lifetime of guilt to live with. Cain could have repented but he didn't and his descendants fell into the same life.

You see this throughout the Bible, the choices that men make out of their hearts, and can either heal or destroy others. Over and over again there had been useless sacrifices that people made to atone without really changing anything, which is why Micah cried out against them "Oh man, what hath God required of thee but to love mercy and do justice" Micah knew the problem was within the heart and that men would have rather paid God off than actually knowing God and loving God. He said "Shall I give my firstborn for my sin? Shall I sacrifice a thousand rams or offer ten thousand rivers of oil, the flesh of my child for my flesh?" See, that's what every prophet was saying, these useless sacrifices in this life, God is not pleased with and doesn't accept, what God DOES accept is a contrite heart that is willing to live in holiness, which Paul clearly understood the prophets when he said "Live in holiness, which without, no man shall see the Lord".

Being born again is in your heart. Jesus taught this. When He said to the woman at the well "Woman, I tell you, the hour will come and is NOW when the true worshipers will worship the Father in Spirit and in truth, for the Father seeketh such as to worship Him". It's this life now and what you do in this life now that will determine the fellowship with God. But without holiness, no man shall see Him.

If you are waiting to die to see that great light, you missed it because that great light is Christ who presently works in this world through the Holy Spirit, to call men to be born again. That's the great light that most people don't want to look at, because it means to live in holiness.

Remember, the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaketh, for in the heart lies all unrighteousness and wickedness. sO can you say with 100% confidence that you are good enough? You will never be good enough, but there is a way to God, and that is by allowing Christ to come into your heart and change it. That's what Jesus said "behold, I stand at the door and knock, if any man opens up unto me, I will come in unto him and fellowship with him". That has been the whole message of the Bible, since the fall. If Cain had just repented, he could have had that fellowship with God, but he let sin rule over him instead.

originally posted by: Boscov
The yoked leader of the house gathers the inhabitants to the entrance to reveal the secured nourishment in the wilderness, contained in righteous work, allowing passage bound to the Shepard across chaos, continuing to protect the seeds and knowledge toward the stronghold trail, the origin of light on the horizon, where the first two were marked by darkness...under the shade of knowledge.

We are to journey with the Messiah, bearer of all sins, who will protect us along the path back to the origin of sin, Eden, where Adam and Eve ate of the Tree of Knowledge. The Messiah will restore Faith in the Garden by repenting the Original Sin, this made possible by bearing all of Adam and Eve's + descendant's sins, holding everyone witness, asking for forgiveness and re-entry into the Kingdom. The mark will be lifted, sins forgiven, Heaven shall rejoice, Man has come home.

We must become clean through penitence, return the pure knowledge to its origin, and release our Savior from bondage.

How is Christ in bondage? Are we holding Him there?

The word of God is never bound. Jesus came to set the captives free and he whom the Son has set free is free indeed. He is not in bondage, we are. We can only come out of that bondage when we accept that freedom. A bound man can never protect the house. That's what Jesus said "the thieves can only rob if they bind the strong man of the house"

We are foolish people if we believe that Christ is bound, because Christ can never be bound. That's what He said to Pilate "No man take my life, I lay it down willingly because I have the power to take it up again". That's the kind of power He has. He laid it down willingly and took it back up again.

originally posted by: WarminIndy
a reply to: AlephBet

And is the mother Hockmah? The goddess of wisdom? Or wisdom herself, justified of her children, her voice cries out in the streets for those to come and learn of her?

You know wisdom is given female aspects in the Bible

Most definitely. She is the Sophia / wisdom from philosophy, or the pursuit of wisdom. This is the inner Nous, which is a prize for those who seek it with a pure heart.

a reply to: WarminIndy

What I meant by bondage, was being bound to Christ to know they way. Once we are clean, repent, and return, we are free, therefore our Savior will no longer be bound to those who have become of the light.

Christ is bound to us, by his own doing, to the very last one. He will tend his flock until they are all home, then the bondage of our sins will be broken, and Christ after that? Absorbed as well? I will think/feel on that.

a reply to: WarminIndy

The reason I ask is because a lot of people say they know the way and will deny Christ and say they have another way but you speak for him and that is all I wanted to know, I guess I was testing you and I must have mistaken you for someone else lol.

originally posted by: WarriorOfLight96
a reply to: WarminIndy

The reason I ask is because a lot of people say they know the way and will deny Christ and say they have another way but you speak for him and that is all I wanted to know, I guess I was testing you and I must have mistaken you for someone else lol.

It's all good.