Sanitizing crew turned away at Ebola patient's residence in Dallas

Just when you think that you have heard it all with how this situation is being handled, I find this gem:

As concerns grow over how many people he may have exposed to the deadly virus, a plan to sanitize the apartment was delayed late Thursday. Brad Smith of the Cleaning Guys, which was hired to sanitize the apartment, said his company does not have the proper permits to transport hazardous waste on Texas highways.
The company specializes in hazmat and biohazard cleaning services.

Smith said authorities sent his crew away late Thursday before they entered the apartment and told them to come back with proper permits. It's unclear how long that will take. "The permit is being processed through DOT (the Department of Transportation) because it is a special permit," Smith said.

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How inept are the people that are handling this situation, I mean really? They hire a crew to clean up the apartment, and they can't even have their permits expedited so they can do their job? What the hell is going on in Texas? Now the apartment will have to wait to be sanitized until the proper permitting is in place?

I seriously don't know what to say.......

a reply to: SpaDe_

As long as nobody goes in there or comes out why does it matter how long it takes them to sanitize it?

The ebola won't grow a pair of legs and walk out of there.

a reply to: Bovah

There are still 4 people quarantined inside of that apartment! This is how they are getting supplies to those quarantined people:



There are your legs!

a reply to: SpaDe_

Well, I'm not sure how I feel about it..

On the one hand I'm glad not just any yahoo outfit can show up to clean a hazmat situation...On the other hand I'm shocked that some jackass contracted a company that is not permitted properly to do the job.

As an ops specialist myself, I think the first questions an operations manger should have asked are: "Are you licensed, bonded, insured, permitted, certified/trained, etc?"

a reply to: SpaDe_

I'm pretty sure that's one of the quarantined persons handing another quarantined person a bag of goods, they cannot go past the stairs, apparently, according to news reports.

a reply to: SpaDe_

Never thought I'd hear myself say this, but thank God for the media. They are the real investigators, for once, and the only ones who seem interested in informing the public. We are only getting half-truths from our government. I can only presume they are trying to hide their incompetent methods and information.

Seriously, are they simply lazy? Or just stupid? Which is worse, I don't know.

Like the Secret Service! If it weren't for the media,, we would think Hernandez was unarmed, only made it the front door, and none of the O'Bama's were in the residence!

It's infuriating.

it seems like, once again ,the govt is doing everything in its power to help the spread of ebola. not gunna stop flights coming from the "hot zone", not tellinh or checking on the paramedics that transported the patent untill after the public announvement.......the govt has become entirly useless....thier actions seem to be purposely trying to spread it ...is this the 2012 that everbody was waiting for

They must have not done this legally before otherwise they would have permits. Sweet deal, illegal operation getting government money. Is daddy or an uncle in the legislature? More profit when ya cheat.

Is the HVAC unit and cycling air or heat into and out the apartment quarantined as well as plumbing being blocked or diverted

a reply to: kosmicjack

This is from Reuters twitter feed this morning:

Four people close to the U.S. Ebola patient are quarantined in a Dallas apartment:

Twitter link

originally posted by: clearmind
it seems like, once again ,the govt is doing everything in its power to help the spread of ebola. not gunna stop flights coming from the "hot zone", not tellinh or checking on the paramedics that transported the patent untill after the public announvement.......the govt has become entirly useless....thier actions seem to be purposely trying to spread it ...is this the 2012 that everbody was waiting for

Could be! When I do watch the news I have to remind myself I am not watching some disaster movie.

In 1992, after a successful career in law enforcement, CG Environmental – Cleaning Guys owner Erick McCallum recognized the need for an innovative emergency response and haz-mat service that municipalities, federal and state agencies, regulatory agencies, and insurance companies could depend upon. He founded Cleaning Guys with a sincere desire to provide the highest quality service and professionalism in the industry. This attention to excellence has earned CG Environmental – Cleaning Guys an exceptional reputation.

cleaningguys.com...

"attention to excellence", yeah right.

Ex cop not getting permits which is breaking the law - shocked.

Despite putting huge amounts of money into the CDC, they still turn around and hire someone to do their work. USA USA USA

originally posted by: SpaDe_
a reply to: Bovah

There are still 4 people quarantined inside of that apartment! This is how they are getting supplies to those quarantined people:

There are your legs!

I wonder why even risk that much, why not call say I am here set it by the door and leave before they open it.

I do not know if the clean up crew was from the apartment complex, or a contracted cleanup crew. If it was a crew from the apartment they would have assumed that no special permit would have been required. If it was a contract cleanup crew the contract would have been between the apartment management and the cleanup company. The DOT just inserted themselves into the situation. This would have created the confusion. At least that is my opinion, until more is known.

originally posted by: Ceeker63
I do not know if the clean up crew was from the apartment complex, or a contracted cleanup crew. If it was a crew from the apartment they would have assumed that no special permit would have been required. If it was a contract cleanup crew the contract would have been between the apartment management and the cleanup company. The DOT just inserted themselves into the situation. This would have created the confusion. At least that is my opinion, until more is known.

A contractor hired by the CDC to clean up the hazard. Not by the apartment. In business for over 20 years, hazmat permits should be nothing new. Typical cheating business, I would say.

a reply to: Char-Lee

That's a good point! Why have any contact at all? It isn't necessary. As you pointed out, all they would have to do is leave the supplies on the doorstep and knock to let them know they are there. No contact and no possibility of becoming infected.

a reply to: roadgravel

Perhaps they've just never had to deal with a level 4 biohazard before.

a reply to: SpaDe_

My guess is someone in that house is/will get sick. Hell they may know they are sick and that's why they turned away the cleaning crew (not wanting to infect anyone).

My guess was that the GF or whoever was taking care of the Dallas patient would become sick (i'm sure they kissed or had some affection on his arrival - maybe not though if he was worried about her safety).

I think we will see a few cases from his household, but after that, I doubt it will spread further.

Personal anecdote. I briefly, recently dated a girl who was half mideastern/north african and she worked in the exact kinda place I would expect an outbreak to occur if it did in the US. A packaging factory in a big city with lots of immigrants. She was often helping people with their english (her mom is white and she was born and raised in the US). I mentioned it to her once and she said none of the African workers had traveled home recently. I am not as susceptible to fear mongering as most, and I don't think Ebola is much of a threat to the US, but I will say I thought about it once after some affection haha - that's pretty sad huh?

Remember how Texas wanted to be their own republic again? Lets pull the border patrol from Mexico and put it around them.

Remember the Alamo! Or whatever...Texans are as bad as New Yorkers for name place dropping. Followed by South Carolina.

Let Ricky take care of it. He thought he could be president. Looks like he knows how to handle ebola quarantine.

a reply to: SpaDe_

Looks like the diarrhea has begun, in need of TP. I know a big bag of TP when I see one.

What a tragic picture that is, just horrific in every way.

May be she thought that she would be treated when contaminating herself? Perhaps the authorities are punishing her already for her actions and choices.

If they were actually on top of this, she and more importantly her children would be taking all the meds ahead of the sickness, on IV liquids and close monitoring.

I wonder if she has a cell phone?

If she does, what is she blogging, texting, emailing? If not then sneak one in for social media!!!

I guess I'm not getting this. Are the health authorities waiting for one of the people in the apartment to get sick, and then they can take them to a hospital for full treatment? I would guess that if one of them is sick and showing symptoms that American law would not force them to stay in the apartment, and would allow them to seek the needed medical expertise and material.