Meanwhile In Hong Kong "Tonight Is Going To Get Messy"

Meanwhile In Hong Kong "Tonight Is Going To Get Messy"

While overnight the massive student protest crowd swelled to as much as 200,000 according to eyewitnesses as today's deadline for their demands that HK Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying resign arrives, the gathering was surprisingly peaceful. That may change at any moment.

BREAKING: Hong Kong police warn of serious consequences if protesters charge government buildings — The Associated Press (@AP)

October 2, 2014 As Bloomberg reports, student leaders yesterday said they would escalate the protests and may surround Leung’s residence, which overlooks Central, if he didn’t resign today. This morning, about 100 police officers guarded the road outside the office, a rectangular low-rise block that’s part of the government headquarters complex in Admiralty, facing about 200 protesters wearing black T-shirts.

AP adds that the Hong Kong police have warned of "serious consequences" if pro-democracy protesters try to charge or surround government buildings.

The wall the police are sandwiched against belongs to PLA barracks btw. They're looking down at the crowds.— Bryan Harris (@bryanhimself) October 2, 2014

Should the protest turn violent again, with tear gas and/or water cannon, keep a close eye on what the PLA will do: so far they have stayed out of it, but if the Police start losing control of the situation, things may escalate very quickly.

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Thanks to daaskapital this feed :

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Let`s wait and see what`s going to happen.

If anyone has other live feeds please post them ?

Live feed says different types of bullets are shipped to CE office (confirmed)...?

a reply to: BornAgainAlien

You really have to hand it to some populations... When they get pissed the do more than just complain.

If China lowers the boom on these people (and they just might do it) you have to wonder what lasting effect if any outside of Hong Kong it will have ?

After Tiananmen Square it was back to business as usual except for the rounding up of many of the dissidents.
I wish them well ... but China is not a democracy ... Talk about being ran by an elite cadre...

a reply to: 727Sky

Yeah, it seems China braces itself with different types Bullets now being brought to Chief Executive`s office and students planning to occupy those buildings.

Both sides are saying they are going to act, good change things will happen.

Here is the Reuters live feed to be seen in big format :

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Sorry got the wrong HK Apple link, updated now in OP.

a reply to: BornAgainAlien

In the next couple of days, Hong Kong’s authorities may suffer a loss of trust and credibility in the eyes of the public. But the government must never yield to the unreasonable political demands of the protesters. These include calls for the resignation of the Chief Executive and senior officials and the rescinding of the decision of the Standing Committee of the National People Congress (NPCSC). The government should not even hold a meeting with the protesters to give them any legitimacy. The outcome of the protests will ultimately depend on the patience of ordinary citizens and how long they will tolerate such disruption.

The protesters have not achieved their real aim of regime change in Hong Kong. They know very well this would never be allowed by the central government. They might use their confrontations with police as a way to get more sympathy from the citizens and to encourage greater participation from naive young people. As the government has ignored their demands and the police have exercised considerable restraint then what is the point of occupying parts of the city and disrupting public transport? How long can they continue with such tactics? In a few days the protests will surely have to stop.

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These protests could ultimately make the city ungovernable. They will also stop it developing into a full democracy. The true motives of the protest leaders are clearly destructive. They are not concerned about the welfare of ordinary citizens and young people in Hong Kong. They are actually part of an international political struggle to defend the power of the US — the so-called bastion of world democracy — but in reality a country which protects the vested interests of a privileged few.

The mud slinging and propaganda wars are being ratcheted up a notch IMO.
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China warns Hong Kong protesters of ‘unimaginable’ consequences

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Protesters hand out surgical masks, and police are gearing up with rubber bullets and riot shields. And more and more people coming in.

Press conference :

- CY not stepping down

- Will be meeting with student leaders about reforms

- CY not going to be at the meeting

- Protestors got warned not to charge by police

- Police will do nothing if not charged

- Protestors not happy

- Principals are trying to calm things down and say discussion is a beginning

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Surely the protesters have not forgotten what China's bottom-line attitude to dissidents and protesters is - just thinking back 25 years or so. Perhaps they're too young to realise the likely outcome of all this and it's all likely to happen again.

It`s getting more and more restless with violence erupting occasionally between pro and anti groups now.

They are slowly removing occupiers by having anti-occupiers attacking them and then police acting as protectors to lead them away...that`s one way to do it.

You can wonder what happens this weekend when now working occupiers are starting to pour in again, can get explosive this weekend.

originally posted by: Pilgrum
Surely the protesters have not forgotten what China's bottom-line attitude to dissidents and protesters is - just thinking back 25 years or so. Perhaps they're too young to realise the likely outcome of all this and it's all likely to happen again.

Very very true ! However sometime you have to sacrifice a few peaches to make a peach cobbler.

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Just as the US admitted shortly after the so-called "Arab Spring" began spreading chaos across the Middle East that it had fully funded, trained, and equipped both mob leaders and heavily armed terrorists years in advance, it is now admitted that the US State Department through a myriad of organizations and NGOs is behind the so-called "Occupy Central" protests in Hong Kong.

IMO a one sided hit piece with just enough innuendo and rumors to make it interesting enough to be filed into the Hummm file..

a reply to: BornAgainAlien

KONG KONG: -- Hopes of finding a resolution to a week of pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong collapsed Saturday as students scrapped talks with the government over violent attacks by Beijing supporters and suspected triad members.

Police said they had arrested eight suspected members of triad criminal gangs over ugly clashes at ongoing pro-democracy protests Friday, with demonstrators saying the violence was orchestrated by paid thugs to stir up trouble and discredit the movement.

Amnesty International blasted police, saying officers "stood by and did nothing" to protect protesters, whose rallies have led to much of the city grinding to a standstill for the past week.

But China Saturday pointed the finger again at the democracy campaigners, accusing them of "daydreaming" over the prospect of change.

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But China Saturday pointed the finger again at the democracy campaigners, accusing them of "daydreaming" over the prospect of change.... Well at least they did not mince words !

originally posted by: Pilgrum
Surely the protesters have not forgotten what China's bottom-line attitude to dissidents and protesters is - just thinking back 25 years or so. Perhaps they're too young to realise the likely outcome of all this and it's all likely to happen again.

you do realize that hong kong is not china right ?

Ultimatum : All protestors have to be away by Monday, "all things necessary will be used" according to Hong Kong leader Leung Chung Ying during speech on television.

It can get indeed very messy if the protestors stay.

Ustream ended badly enough, but here are HK Apple Daily updated, ABC and CBC News stream:

CBC Live Feed, disable pop up blocker if needed, it`s on the left side

ABC Live Feed

a reply to: BornAgainAlien

I am surprised this thread has not gotten more replies.. Over there not here so who cares.... I suppose.. People are putting their lives on the line for change. Many countries and their people could learn from some of the protesters present and past who want change IMO.