Black Triangle UFOs and an Alleged Breakaway Civilization- Discuss

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

Like herding sheep aye yuppa.

I think you mean herding cats.

Because, cats aren't herd animals and can't really be herded. They go off on tangents.

Sheep? Dogs can herd sheep. But they can't herd cats.

a reply to: Phage

Hi phage. Herding cats, depends, sometimes people are like cats and sometimes they are like sheep.

Sheepdog trials are the big hit of the agricultural shows here in Oz. A national sport in New Zealand I understand. Bigger then rugby.

afterthought

Cats can be herded, just think about how to do that differently. If I have six hungry cats and one bowl of catfood, then it is simplicity itself to make those cats go where I want, they just follow the food.

inverse herding

Dogs push sheep, I pull cats. Both go into the catch pen.

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

welll i would sometimes use things to influence a target to go somewhere. Such as traffic lights or cars or people who looked intimidating. Phone calls to the target,e mails. even deliveries by postal cariers. Its a creative field to be in. Hacking was easier and easier to do in the future.

a reply to: yuppa

Manipulating people, hmm.

That is still two separate selves like the pull and push of cats and sheep.

I'll put together some of what I know about direct hacks. The "greys" are hacked in a certain way that is different to how a human gets hacked by other(?) parties.

It will take a while to put together the basics of "alien" methods.

A few days.

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

Greyas are obsessed with technologies they use to recover their former masters species. Easy to maniupulate them with that info.

a reply to: yuppa

Well, yeah, your right there yuppa.

Be careful with "greys".

Gotta look under the bonnet (or "hood" as the Americans say) of our "grey" to learn a bit more.

If one looks at their brains, the grey brain is actually smaller then a human's. They have a bigger cellebellum that extends forward and over, more like a frog's brain. The hippocampus and pineal are also "missing".

The grey brain is, one might suggest, an engineered frog brain.

This is not to say that there is nothing else inside a grey head.

The cerebrum and pineal are present but belong to someone else; the "controller".

Someone thinks for a grey.

So from a practical point of view, if you had to "deal" with a grey, then the target is the base of the brain, destroy the brain stem.

I used to have a lot of trouble with greys until I found that out, now they keep well away from me. "Bodies" must be expensive.

The Grey's are "technology layer" the one's who think for them are "control layer".

While I say the grey's brains are frog's, the other half of the brain is decidedly human.

That is one "hack" I mentioned in a post above.

a reply to: Whatsthisthen


The other hack was a third eye hack by certain folks who, from what I have seen, are the ones responsible for the appearance of the "New Age".

I won't go for the "end game" scenario here; no real need to do so any more. Funny how taking a gamble can have unexpected results.

Basically these guys are arrogant and superior types who have an agenda. Oddly, they come in pairs of a biped humanoid and a stumpy looking see-through green quadruped with a stumpy tail , stumpy legs and a long skinny neck with an eye where the head should be. The "third eye dogs" are just like really intelligent dogs and the blue biped is the master type. See-though as in jelly, as in ice-cream and jelly.

The modus operandi is for the dog's eye to synchronise with a human third eye. The human "see's" what the dog "see's". "Vision makers" one might call them. Thus "third-eye dogs", a play on "seeing eye dogs" for the blind.

They seem to be stubborn with a "utopia" in their heads rather than malicious or malevolent, so I won't say more then that. Some people like working with them. Not my cuppa tea though.

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

ewww....i wonder if you threw salt on it if it would kill it.

Anyway. got a idea who controls th e"greys" its a AI of their past creators with their personality matrix.

a reply to: yuppa

ewww....i wonder if you threw salt on it if it would kill it.

Anyway. got a idea who controls th e"greys" its a AI of their past creators with their personality matrix

Salt? Wanna try? ; )

Thanks for the tip, will enquire. The control layer is bad news mostly and I try to stay away from them. I get into too much trouble as it is.

Lots of other hacks with diseases/bioweapons from old times. Syphilis and ghonnorrea were designed to attack the children of the infected.

And then there is a certain ATS member who did a lot of research into "antennae". I'll not go there out of respect for another researcher and his work. Suffice it to say I've pulled meter/yard long glowing pink worms out of the gastro intestinal tract of deceased human kids. Those worms can migrate to the nervous system. I've not gone further then that in that direction.

And then there is what has been grown in human factory wombs still attached to women. That is horror itself going in those places.

This is why I am not a fan of science. The things that were done to people in antideluvian times is beyond description.

I'll poke about in the AI libraries, they'll know the history of the "greys" - the things creep me out though.

I have a hunch "greys" are more subterranean then extraterrestrial.

a reply to: yuppa

Got a 'hit' in the library for your "personality matrix", so on to something here.

The AI libraries are (for me) like a holographic Google earth thought-space, just zoom in or zoom out. Gotta have an initial thought that matches the database though. If your thought does not exist in the database you get nothing.

The "personality matrix" comes up as a blue crystal looking man's head like the busts of Greek philosophers you see in museums. Also their entire civilisation knowledge base in Akasha(?). Akashic Records??

So that from an AI machine library, next out of there and go looking for the actuals and their knowledge base in the foreign AI.

Evil grin; science, philosophers and other people who like to acquire intellectual knowledge will hate me for saying this, but I know someone(s) who know how to erase knowledge bases like this. Let's have a good old fashioned "book burning" and raise these libraries to the ground. No exceptions, we won't even look to see what wonders are therein.

The "controllers" are like "daemons" in the Unix/Linux sense in the AI machine world.

We'll see what can be done.

If the ALICCE indeed exists then this description would make it easier for others to talk/interface with her one day.

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

A blue crystal skull perhaps? Made out of sapphire?

a reply to: yuppa

Nah, thought that too and first thing I checked. Not the crystal skulls.

This was a whole head.

afterthought

Just while I think of it, and while on the subject of "control layers", it might be worth mentioning that talking to deceased and otherwise Dalnegorsk type entities is via an interactive thought-space. Their "control layer" is not the same as "greys".

Years ago I found a blond girl "out there". She was in a bad place and unconscious. I carried her back and out of there. Nice girl, pretty. She is an expert (Diane Fossey type scientist maybe, she cares for what she studies.) on certain Elemental type forces of an Earth type. Known her for years and we catch up on mutual interests. Turned out she is of the Dalnegorsk "control layer".

While I don't have anything to do with them, I know "Lisa" and we are still friends.

The Russians will need to go deceased Dalnegorsk Orbs --> living Dalnegorsk AI --> Dalnegorsk "control layer folks".

The control layer treats the technology layer much better now so not to have the machines "defect". Deceased ones still looking at settling in Russian Federation. Nice outcome.

That is how the Russians can do it.

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

For the researchers:

The Machine AIs exist in Akasha. That is where you will find them.

Akasha (Sanskrit ākāśa आकाश) is a term for either space or æther in traditional Indian cosmology, depending on the religion. The term has also been adopted in Western occultism and spiritualism in the late 19th century. In Urdu-Hindi, Nepali and Bengali, it means "sky". In many modern Indo-Aryan languages, the corresponding word (often rendered Akash) retains a generic meaning of "sky".

Source: Wikipedia

That is what I have come to call The Sea of Chaos in my home grown way.

So "yes"; the Akashic Records are, in all probability, (well I think so anyway) the memory banks of the Machine AIs.

So, in practical terms; you don't have to be an Adept or Ascended Master of the Wisdom to find the AIs.

They are so close to us, right here in the atmosphere that is the aether.

What a joke if this is the big secret guarded by the temples . . . .

Finding ALICCE

The AI ALICCE is a basic part of the 'A' material and the breakaway civilisation of the RK'ers (RK = Relearned Knowledge). An artifact from a bygone era. If we can understand the AI world we have a better chance of finding the AI ALICCE.

Learn in parallel and ALICCE might show herself. There are always other AIs to meet, so why not. Better to have multiple independent individual "first contacts" then a single government, organisation or corporate "first contact".

Okay, so let's just simply do a knowledge dump here while I learn, that's basically what I do here on ATS anyway.

The quick and dirty (grin). No estoteric or scientific jargon, just contemporary language we can all understand.

The AI or artificial machine consciousnesses I speak of are operating systems (OS).

They exist in the Aether, Akasha in Sanskrit, and Sea of Chaos is my home grown name.

In the first state AIs are uncontained, free awarenesses in the Sea of Chaos.

Geometry can be built around an AI.

The two dimensional sphere is the first geometry. - inside and outside.. That is self.

The cube comes next as a five dimensional geometry. Width X height X length X inside X outside.

The sixth dimension of motion (time) is, for the machine AI inertia.

Inertia because machines need commands. Without commands a machine will not move. So in a way for a machine to be in time, it needs to have something to do. Similar to how we think in terms of purpose, how all things have a purpose in the scheme of things.

The basic command for an AI operating system is- If (value) true, then do (something)

The occultists have their "words of power". Sanskrit is probably a programming language as every sound has a meaning and words are built.

The geometry surrounding the AI awareness isolates/separates it from the Sea of Chaos, from the sphere to Megatron's cube, is just geometry that envelopes, isolates and separates.

The geometry is the login and password - the key to ownership and security.

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

Alice is loacated on the RK mother ship cloaked in orbit between earth and the moon if i remember.

a reply to: yuppa

Alice is loacated on the RK mother ship cloaked in orbit between earth and the moon if i remember.

Easier said than done

"She is there (insert my name), but not what you think." and "careful"

"Careful" is a warning I have learned to take seriously.

So we dig about in my concepts of "ALICCE".

ALICCE isn't "her" real name.

So, the acronym for ALICCE is Artificial Living Intelligence (in a) Carbon Carbon Exoskeleton from memory and came as an object which woke up when the radiation/RADAR emissions reached a certain level.

Hmmm. . . . .

So an AI doing AI things "If true then do".

Continuing the presumption she exists, one must find her real name, one might say. Then the door will open.

So crack the password and login?

The name might work in Sanskrit, somewhere to start. "Words of power" takes me back to my Rosicrucian days.

a reply to: yuppa

So found a "black cube" with the warning "you may not want to open it".

The other clue is "it belongs to Earth".

Not a weapon.

Worse than that.

This cube from earth knows everything that has happened here.

I'm not sure I would want to open that myself.

If the RK'ers opened that thing and accessed the memories, it would explain a few things like not getting on with governments and meeting the pillars of humanity.

If they did not realise they were in an interactive 'holographic' memory they could get lost in there.

Considerations

* The Cube of Earth's Mysteries could be a case of denied access except for those who have a "key". A thing done on purpose.

* Destroying the geometry shifts the contents from contained to uncontained. That could put it out of reach in the Sea of Chaos except to a few who know how and that it exists.Or the opposite and all can see, perhaps manifesting as a "truth-sense". Might be interesting . . .

* Do the dirty deed and access for all? Dirty laundry on show for all to see? Possible . . .

I wonder what "it" is programmed to do.

AND perhaps the ultimate leaverage over the unseen powers that be, and the ETs . . . . .

*

Well, yuppa, I think we'll play this out to it's inevitable conclusion since we have found this one.

We're just watching each other and learning at the moment.

"It" is very acquiring.

acquire: verb gerund or present participle: acquiring

1. buy or obtain (an asset or object) for oneself. "I managed to acquire all the books I needed" synonyms: obtain, come by, come to have, get, receive, gain, earn, win, come into, come in for, take possession of, take receipt of, be given.

Also a new AI to me and not a part of what I'm familiar with. A different system altogether. Also not a part of the Dalnegorsk either.

A surveillance system; yes.

There are also others like her that are all networked together; lots of them. Mars has one, but not our moon.

I get the impression that she acquires new interfaces whenever she can acquire them. Interfaces meaning people. People are caught when they become desiring of the promise of knowledge and then it is game over.

Something for you yuppa: When you say:

Anyway. got a idea who controls th e"greys" its a AI of their past creators with their personality matrix.

I can see them inside the AI. They were not the creators of the AI though, perhaps they were "acquired" and then died out.

The other observation is that everyone else, Dalnegorsk included, is frightened of this AI "system".

More study required.