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'm beginning to think you just hate America and Americans with the way you word some of your responses.
What are you really here to talk about?
You shouldn't stereotype everybody, even if they disagree with you.
I have no idea who you are, where you're from or what color you are.. But that doesn't change my opinion about you. I just view you as a fellow human being and we disagree on this issue.
originally posted by: finitedualities
Why do people claim the Civil War was fought over slavery? So funny how deep the propaganda and re-writing of history goes...
originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: James1982
And I guess modern day people who are upset with an overreaching federal government are all just racist wannabe-slave owners too.
There is no need to take what I say personally, though if the cap fits, by all means put it on.
If it was about slavery why didn't slavery get abolished in the North until after the fact?
Hang on a tick. Can I answer that along with this?
Yeahkeepwatchingme: America's first slave owner was a black man if I'm not mistaken. So why aren't most black people upset about that?
Do you both realize that, simply by knowing and stating these obscure and actually quite irrelevant facts, you are simply providing more evidence that the OP's contention is correct?
OP I would say it is because TPTB and MSM feed the racial divide, most Americans could care less what color you are. But you wouldn't know that with the way MSM paints the scene.
America is not unique in it's class/race issues.
You keep trying to make it an issue of "whites have a problem and they need to stop being racist"
When it's really an issue of "Humans are xenophobic and irrational with a tribal mentality" and whites are no different than other races in that regard.
ALL humans have a race problem. Until you are honest and admit that, how do you expect any progress?
Then you simply deflect the question by implying I'm a racist in several clever ways.
How is it irrelevant, that a group of people supposedly against slavery, wouldn't immediately abolish it?
Since when is a fact's value determined by how commonly known it is?
You have refused time and time again to actually discuss anything. You just make statements, and then disparage anyone that disagrees with you.
Can I ask you a few straight questions? Actually, I'm really wondering, will you give me a straight answer if I do?
Do you think white people are more racist than other races?
Do you think black people have no control whatsoever over their situation in this country?
I will gladly answer anything you ask me, in the spirit of discussion I'd kindly ask you to at least answer a few of mine.
originally posted by: Astyanax
How is it irrelevant, that a group of people supposedly against slavery, wouldn't immediately abolish it?
Slavery was abolished in all the northern states of the USA by 1800. The Civil War began in 1861.
Since when is a fact's value determined by how commonly known it is?
Since it isn't a fact, the point is irrelevant, but if it had been a fact, your knowledge of it suggests a particular sensitivity to a related issue. Since it isn't a fact but a falsehood, your bringing it up suggests something rather different, doesn't it?
I can imagine that Africa and other parts of the world had white v black issues for longer periods of time.
If I was a racist, I personally would not share my bed with a half Pakistani woman which is what I'm currently doing.