Spray and Pray

I guess when you have a home intruder throwing a lot of lead down range is required this little bad boy does the job.

Thats a sweet gun, this gun wasnt designed for home intruders, although its a very good deterent.

a reply to: SLAYER69

That thing is F'ing BAD ASS!!!

a reply to: SLAYER69

And when the police comes, you'll have alot of explaining to do. Like, How come the guy you shot had a dozen of bullets in his body and is bleeding like hell, and why you're standing there with the gun.

I'm all for self-defence, but self-defence must look like self-defence - and not like planned murder.

a reply to: OptimusCrime

That thing is F'ing BAD ASS!!!

I'll second that.
(definitely want one of those!)

a reply to: swanne

So, if I blow the intruder away with a shotty....10 or 20 small holes from one round....I have "explaining to do" because the guy is "bleeding like hell"?
ummm....that was kinda the intention. You know, STOP the threat.
I lay my finger on the trigger and he takes 10 rounds in a split second, how is that any different from the shotgun blast?

I fail to see how you equate it with "planned murder"....

a reply to: SLAYER69

If there ever was a gun that could cut out a door in a wall like you see in cartoons, this would be it. Until it overheats and/or jams

There's a reason the military uses multi barrels for high rates of fire lol.

originally posted by: swanne
a reply to: SLAYER69

I'm all for self-defence, but self-defence must look like self-defence - and not like planned murder.

Of course it's planned murder. And that's what the law provides for.

If you've ever seen someone hit with buckshot at close quarters, this thing isn't any different. Mangled is mangled.

originally posted by: Jakal26
So, if I blow the intruder away with a shotty....10 or 20 small holes from one round....I have "explaining to do" because the guy is "bleeding like hell"?
ummm....that was kinda the intention. You know, STOP the threat.

Oh, really? If to stop a threat, you feel like you have to rig a person's body with multiple wound and haemorrhages, I suggest you see a psychiatric and/or lay off the Rambo movies.

I personally observe that a n electric fence is more than enough to dissuade most intruders. And when this doesn't do the job, I like to keep a series of layers for the intruder to go through. Security dogs, trip wires, you name it. You know, kind of like an obstacle course on steroids.

That way, even when I'm not there, I know no one is going to rob my house. The beauty of passive defence is that it works even when you're not there. I personally have a life, and walking around holding a gun, constantly in fear of an intruder, is not my idea of life.

originally posted by: swanne
a reply to: SLAYER69

And when the police comes, you'll have alot of explaining to do. Like, How come the guy you shot had a dozen of bullets in his body and is bleeding like hell, and why you're standing there with the gun.

I'm all for self-defence, but self-defence must look like self-defence - and not like planned murder.

That tactic works for the police in ferguson.

originally posted by: swanne
...walking around holding a gun, constantly in fear of an intruder, is not my idea of life.

Who says you have to?

Just keep a shotty in a stand by the door.

And I've got at least a sidearm in pretty much every room. That's not counting the rack in the house, or the safe in the storage room.

I'm not in fear of an intruder AT ALL. The poor bastard that's intruding, he's got everything to fear.

Close enough range with that thing and your sweeping up confetti... Me likes

originally posted by: Bedlam
Just keep a shotty in a stand by the door.

And I've got at least a sidearm in pretty much every room. That's not counting the rack in the house, or the safe in the storage room.

And you never thought that an intruder might get his hands on one of them?

Letting guns laying around in the house is probably the stupidest idea I have ever heard. Intruder will simply grab the gun, rendering him even more dangerous.

And imagine he gets in when you're not in the house, or you're sleeping at the second story?

But I see that no amount of reason will shake your common attraction for guns and your common fantasies for blood. You all look tome me like a bunch of teenage hungry for blood and waiting for any reason to express your repressed anger.

originally posted by: jaynkeel
Close enough range with that thing and your sweeping up confetti... Me likes

My service "sidearm" followed me home:



Break in. Go ahead.

originally posted by: swanne

And you never thought that an intruder might get his hands on one of them?

Intruder will simply grab the gun, rendering him even more dangerous.

"Intruder" won't know where to look until it's too late. And so far, it's been two intruders, zero, Tom, 2.

Look, it won't be the first person I've shot. By a long shot. I'm quite competent at it, sad to say.

a reply to: swanne

The beauty of passive defence is that it works even when you're not there. I personally have a life, and walking around holding a gun, constantly in fear of an intruder, is not my idea of life.

I believe you are dancing around your issue with guns....but that is just my opinion and I don't know you so.....who knows. (I honestly don't really care).

Oh, really? If to stop a threat, you feel like you have to rig a person's body with multiple wound an haemorrhages, I suggest you see a psychiatric and/or lay off the Rambo movies.

Oh....there it is again.
"Lay off the Rambo movies".....What the hell are you talking about?
Where did I say one MUST "riddle the body of the intruder with multiple bullets"?

What if the intruder darts into a room and locks a door/or is hiding in some manner?
With this thing (or a good shotty) I could blow that door apart and THEN take him out. I'm not going to wait 30 to 45 minutes (minimum in my neck of the woods) for the cops to show up. I am ELIMINATING the thread...period!

There are no games to be played when there is an intruder in your home.
Like someone else said, mangled is mangled and if one intrudes inside my home.....if that one doesn't get me first, that one IS getting mangled. No if, ands, buts....consequences be DAMNED.

Sometimes, one must stand by their inalienable rights and quit worrying about what the bleeding heart media or the pigs think. (People have become pushovers)

.......P.S. Your post is so passive-aggressive I don't know what to make of it

originally posted by: swanne
But I see that no amount of reason will shake your common attraction for guns and your common fantasies for blood. You all look tome me like a bunch of teenage hungry for blood and waiting for any reason to express your repressed anger.

Or, I'm a salted serviceman with a lot of trigger time, and a badge. Well, I had a FSO/CSSO until I was away too long. Now, I'm merely a FSO, but that's still a federal agent.