US failure to see Saudi role in 9/11 contributed to rise of ISIS – ex-senator

Former Senator claims failure to expose Saudi involvement of 9/11 has helped The IS to grow!!!


Former Senator Bob Graham, 9/11 inquiry co-chairman has stated that failure to shine a light on Saudi involvement on that notorious day has helped the rise of The "Islamic" State!!!

Failure by the US to investigate Saudi Arabia’s connection to the 9/11 attacks is among the factors that led to the rise of ISIS, Bob Graham, a former senator and co-chairman of the official inquiry into 9/11, told The Independent in an interview.

Graham has expressed doubts about the US’s reliance on Saudi Arabia as an ally in fight against Islamic State (also known as ISIS or ISIL). Earlier this week President Obama announced a plan, according to which Saudi Arabia is supposed to provide training for moderate Syrian rebels, who are expected to fight both the ISIS and Assad's forces.

Despite Saudi Arabia being a Wahhabist State...

The former senator said it was not the best decision to rely on the country which has often been accused of sponsoring “the most extreme elements among the Sunni.”

Some think that...

Some light on the Saudi role in the 9/11 tragedy could be shed if the 28 redacted pages from the inquiry were made public. Graham has been campaigning for that.

Obama promised to release the censored documents during his first presidential campaign, but haven’t yet delivered on the promise.

Not an unsurprising stand point to some of us...
Many here believe that Saudi Arabia was involved in 9/11 for many different reasons...

Could have put this into 9/11 forum but this comes from a politician...
So political conspiracies it is!!!

If mods wish to move it across to 9/11, please do!!!

Interesting .. however the problem still remains of removing them .. regardless where they started they are a threat that needs nuetralizing ...

a reply to: Expat888

I agree IS need to go, sharpish...

If it's found that IS were funded by the Saudi Snake...
Cutting off the head may be more economical than engaging IS in an all out war!!!

The former senator may be right and I wasn't very surprised to find out many of the 9/11 conspirators had saudi backrounds.I've felt for sometime now that we have made a deal with the devil (Saudi Arabia).And there was just a thread here about a group of Christians being arrested there for of all despicable acts, praying.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

I don't think it was, so much, a failure to see it. Rather I think it was a failure to acknowledge it. Anyone who paid any attention at all were aware of the 9/11 conspirators national origins.

We should have sent Colin Powell into each and every Middle East country with a message: Clean up the bs terrorism in your back yard or we will remove you from leadership, by virtue of bombs, if necessary.

It has been my thought that most of the ME countries were funding terrorism as a way to conduct war against the west without direct confrontation. If the countries confronted us directly they would not stand a chance. Going the guerrilla warfare/terrorist way allows them to have their cake and eat it too.

I believe that it's not only the Saudi involvement with 9/11, but with all kinds of nefarious things since, that have deliberately been overlooked. Oil, money, back slapping, corruption, oil money, and their merry go round continues this circular movement. The Sauds are deeply involved with funding IS and rebellious movements. However western countries will avoid pointing fingers in that direction because of corruption, oil, money. Everyone knows it but the silence of TPTB on that issue is deafening.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

The Saudi connection was all there for everybody to see, read and decide on. Nothing to be sour on - 13 years later on.

However, when the mood is now building up, to go for a final solution at the Arabian peninsula, why not whack Saudi's along with ISIS gangs. Thing is, Saudi mufta agrees petty much ISIS interpretation of Islam, which pretty much labels Saudi Arabia religiously "welcome ISIS".

Which brings us back to the fact, the IRAN is not the boogey man there. Its the Wahhabis, & extreme sunnis.

It's a shame you're not getting more responses.
I guess it's apathy and general agreement that the 28 pages just confirms what those who can discern already know. The $2-3 BILLION the Saudis spend to spread Wahabism in the Islamic world, isn't just paying for books and madrasas.

The Spice, or in this case oil, Must Flow!!!

The closing statement in the link is one that should shed light on just how out of control the US Government is every party. The former Senator is "surprised" the Obama administration hasn't been more forthcoming...just ask the Kennedys what "peeking behind the curtain" can get you.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: Expat888

I agree IS need to go, sharpish...

If it's found that IS were funded by the Saudi Snake...
Cutting off the head may be more economical than engaging IS in an all out war!!!

While on the surface that might sound like a good idea, it would never happen because of the US dependence on oil. Saudi Arabia was the largest exporter of oil in the world a couple of years ago, and I imagine that this still holds true. If not, they are definitely in the top 2 or 3. So many countries have a vested interest in keeping Saudi Arabia stable. Why not create instability and then move in and take over their oil reserves? This perhaps could be feasible, but it would be extremely difficult considering the funding that Saudi Arabia has, which could be used for defense. They could hire mercenaries for years and years to come, and their stockpiles of money and gold means that it would likely be too difficult to achieve such a task via conventional means.

So if we cannot invade them, and cannot cut them off, the only option left is to appease them. This basically appears to be what the US has decided to do, considering they didn't talk about Saudi involvement in 911. If it had been a country that the US thought they could exploit, they would have used the information of their involvement to further US interests. I would definitely not consider Saudi Arabia a US ally. No way. The Saudis don't care so much about angering the US in my opinion, as there is nothing the US can do. Too many countries depend on Saudi oil, and they hold the stick. I would be very surprised if two things occur: first, if the redacted pages are released...and second, if anything is done about it. The people might pressure the US to take action against Saudi Arabia, although I doubt it, and the government will never do that in the near future. Unless the balance of power changes I continue to see Saudi Arabia exerting much influence.

The only reason they wouldn't make it obvious that they are not US supporters is because they don't want to do anything to force the US into action. They are not dependent on the US considering they can export to anybody. They would take an initial financial hit if they stopped selling to the US, but they would quickly recover. It would be a drop in the bucket considering the money they've got over there. There is also the possibility that there are uber-wealthy individuals within Arabia and not the entire government body that is supporting ISIS or other terrorist organizations. Personally I do not see the US ever being true allies with a Muslim nation. I would consider a true US ally to be a country like Britain. Or perhaps I should say England, considering what is going on with Scotland, although I don't know if this would affect the term Great Britain. Most Americans don't know the difference in England and Britain anyway, lol. I personally consider England to be England and Wales, although that is not correct.

Anyway, they are a country that the US will always aid and be loyal to, and one of the countries with the longest-standing ties to the US. France would be another. I just don't see any Muslim nation holding the same ally status with the US anytime in the foreseeable future. Of course there can be temporary alliances, much like that the US has with the current Iraqi government, but I don't see that being long-lasting. There are certain countries that I never see the US fighting against. Britain, France, etc...Unless something happened to upset the government of one of those countries, and I just think that any Muslim nation runs the risk of becoming any enemy of the US, more risk than a non-Muslim nation has of becoming an enemy of the US. Part of why I think this is because the US interest in oil and their willingness to exploit the region, but it also partly has to do with the instability of Islam in general. Whether the religion teaches it or not, it is a fact that Islam breeds extremists. When you have so many extremists coming out and claiming that their actions are based on their religion, it is pretty obvious that religion is the main motivation...Again, whether the religion teaches this or not. Apparently Islam is way too open to interpretation if it is birthing this many extremists.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Whats this? Another massive security failure by the biggest, best resourced, be equipped and best trained security force the world has ever seen? How can that be possible ??

Yeah! It was all the doing of those sneaky Saudi's.
Of course, all of this coming out right now has nothing to do with SA slightly souring relations with the US.
Let us not forget there are those blamed for suicide hijackings that are still alive and well. Let us also not forget Israeli ties to 9/11 - the dancing Israelis, the Odigo messages, the ZIM shipping company breaking it's lease and getting the hell out before it went down, the Urban Moving spy op...etc...etc!
Not to mention the absolute farce that was the US military response on the day, with both indications in some circles of foreknowledge, and deliberate stand-downs.

The inquiry was a whitewash, even admitted so by those tasked with producing it.

This whole "Blame the Saudis" stuff all of a sudden is just another deflection, nothing more, and is another attempt to lead the people along by the nose and keep them well away from asking awkward questions.

a reply to: Britguy

A little something I think should be noted regarding the Saudi's is that they are putting mosques into a lot of countries and sending inh their own Imams to 'teach their kind of Islam to different countries. This is a stealth exercise and I think should be watched very hard as I don'[t doubt Saudi, bored out of its bonce because of too much money is on a religious push.

It should not be forgotten how many unemployed men and bored people turn to religion and especially the more hard-line seems to suit them.

I do believe that Saudi is a treacherous country towards the West and its alignment with Israel only complicates this unholy union further. We all know of both these country's involvement inthe manipulation of the mass media. One only has to follow the money and the technology to see who is involved and look at their immediate circumstances to see who has dirty hands.

I also think that IS as it is formed on an ideology is ultimately incapable of being controlled by Saudi or any other country because kids, which it recruits are still learning figuratively how to make the wheel, so they will go with what they think their God wants and not the financial and power brokers - which is why its so dangerous. I also don't believe until many of these kids get into their 60's that they will mellow in their beliefs and so pose a threat to any Western or affluent Arab state.