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originally posted by: MarlinGrace
a reply to: OptimusCrime
I have never been to Philly but I can tell you Los Angeles is about the same. There are many on ATS that talk about a race war, and I can't speak to other states and their cities but it So. Cal. it will be black and brown not black and white. In my 53 years there I to have many experiences that you speak of, now in a retirement area of Williamsburg VA. for 3 years things are vastly different. Different planet kind of different. I am surprised you haven't been attacked here yet for speaking the truth. Often times it doesn't matter what the truth is, some just don't want to hear it.
originally posted by: OptimusCrime
originally posted by: MarlinGrace
a reply to: OptimusCrime
I have never been to Philly but I can tell you Los Angeles is about the same. There are many on ATS that talk about a race war, and I can't speak to other states and their cities but it So. Cal. it will be black and brown not black and white. In my 53 years there I to have many experiences that you speak of, now in a retirement area of Williamsburg VA. for 3 years things are vastly different. Different planet kind of different. I am surprised you haven't been attacked here yet for speaking the truth. Often times it doesn't matter what the truth is, some just don't want to hear it.
I understand where you're coming from. I've traveled all over the U.S. and Philly is by far the worst. I was LA but never inner city LA but I've heard stories. I'm prepared to be attacked by what I posted but it is 100 percent true. I plan on moving as soon as I sort some things out. It will be hard to go but I'm not sticking around to see my hometown destroyed, like my grandparents had to, as the chaos is moving in from all sides.
originally posted by: OptimusCrime
originally posted by: ArchPlayer
I would go as far as race baiting. It's no different or more antagonizing than the Old Glory Pic. Old Glory
But he is definitely making a statement about the treatment of blacks in Philly. Before you guys chew my head off I'm playing devil's advocate here. It is no secret that Philly has had its fair share of issues with their urban black population. The MOVE Organization and the Philly PD/FD has had a turbulent history that led to the burning of Osage Ave. complex, and shooting anyone fleeing the burning building. That is not including the mess they went through with Rizzo back in the 1970s and the bulldozing of their original house before they became "nusiances". Philly has also had some riots back back in the day as well. Then there was Gary D. Heinick holding the 4 black teens captive, forcing them to have sex, and then killing two of them and forcing the other 2 to eat them. All under the premise of blind eye neighbors. All under the girls being missing and the cops not really bothering to find out about their kidnappings.
Could he have made a better choice of locale, well, it depends on who his target demographic is. He wanted it around a certain gentrified demographic and obviously tourists and he got it. I doubt the same message would have come across in a black hood noted for shootings.
Not a Philly Native. Previously lived there for a minute for academic endeavors.
I know a lot of white cats were scared to walk through West Philly at night, but maybe its because they were with a multicultural bunch they didn't get stuck up or robbed over there, or at least didn't say anything to us about it visiting. Can't speak on Chester and Camden, though.
I'm not acting like blacks are innocent, and any race crime against another race is plain wrong. But I will say considering the attitude of the not so long ago past of Rizzo against blacks back in the day, it isn't a wonder racial tensions haven't improved and have come to that. The mentality I saw there was similiar to Chicago's mentality of whites in the city MUST be rich, so let's get them type thing. Just my observation. And yes, per capita I saw more cases living there of black on white crime than any city I've lived in in the states, and that is quite a few (hell, worse than Atlanta by far).
I have no idea what his motivation was, nor his intended demographic. I am theorizing that him being around a landmark would perhaps allow him a broader audience to get his point across. Which, technically it did since it trended pretty heavily to predominately white sites.
And yeah, them Italians there are pretty etched in stone on how they feel about certain behaviors of folk, lol.
originally posted by: skalla
a reply to: ArchPlayer
When fatally shot, do black people reach out for their baseball-cap as some kind of aid in the afterlife, like Vikings and their swords?
originally posted by: Fylgje
a reply to: ArchPlayer
What does playing GTA(a video game) have to do with reality. Video games are fantasy.
This is "art"??? This is just race baiters trying to make it seem that everybody is just innocent little kids who get killed by cops for no reason. Blame white men!!!! The message was lost on stupidity and inaccurate assumptions. sorry. That's just where I stand on displays such as this. Lets be real and talk about what's REALLY going down in cities with a large black populace. It's happening in a city near me(Huntington WV) and now Dog The Bounty Hunter is coming here to try and help because the mayor doesn't know what else to do!!! He doesn't understand why the city has crumbled and fell to a high crime lawless place. Lets talk about what's real.
originally posted by: squittles
a reply to: ArchPlayer
I think the guy standing there with the "Call us by our names" sign" was a give away - the whole scene was obviously staged, and no one thought "Huh, a dead black kid; hope he doesn't ruin my photo."
Thing is, while the "artist" carried his own baggage, the worst commissioner of race-baiting was, a bit ironically, the Asian author who fabricated, uh, "wrote" the story.
You have to wonder, what reaction did they want? What reaction would have moved them to say "Oh, this restores my faith in humanity?" More to the point, what, exactly, would have moved the author to write a narrative *other* than one where she repeatedly asserted that white people don't care about dead black men? (and notice her own racism, where every single actor was defined by their race.)
It's a rhetorical question, really - we all know the answer to that - nothing would've changed her conclusion.
While she's at it, perhaps she should've mentioned that, by far, the group most responsible for killing young black men are other black men. And I shouldn't mention that stat in isolation - the biggest killer of white men, of which there numerically more victims of homicide (at least in 2010) than blacks, are other white men.
(Italics mine - while the rate of murder among blacks is far higher than whites, it's clear most people don't realize that in volume, there are more white victims of homicide than black.)
So, perhaps that demonstration would've carried more weight - and appropriateness - in a black neighborhood.
What I saw was a populace completely desensitized by violence that it was just another day.
originally posted by: OptimusCrime
I'm going to add to what you're saying as I live in Philly. Here are some facts:
and OP, this is for you, I'm going to play devils advocate here. I'd love to hear your response.
My grandparents used to live in Darby, Pa and would go to Chester, Pa at night for dancing and drinks with friends back in the 50's before those areas became predominately black. I hate to say it, but since the blacks moved in, both of those towns are torn to pieces with trash all over the streets and beautiful Victorian houses, and most newer houses, are destroyed with wood over the windows. A beautiful cemetery in Darby has gang signs and graffiti on headstones with some kicked over and the crime rates are through the roof.
It does not cost money to keep your town and cities clean and nice. It doesn't cost money to treat others with respect.
Not but a few years ago a white Widener University student was walking a bit off campus and was robbed and murdered for the less than $10 is in pocket by a black and left for dead on the sidewalk. You didn't hear that make national news and there were no riots.
Arrest in Widener student's death One suspect is held as police search for the man they think pulled the trigger.
Furthermore, blacks were playing the "knockout game" and knocking old white people out left and right in Philly this past summer. I bet you didn't hear that in the national news and when they were caught, they weren't charged with hate crimes.
Dangerous Knockout Game Hits Philadelphia Transit
Another instance happened at temple where a group of black teens almost killed a white girl over no reason. Hitting her in the face with a brick multiple times.
Temple Student Attacked With Brick Wants to Return to Classes
These are just a few of the crimes committed against whites that happen in Philadelphia and the surrounding suburbs every day. I could post about a few hundred more but I think I've proved my point. It's getting to the point where I'm seriously considering get my L2C because I don't want to end up a victim, and that's becoming the mentality in and around this area.
The crimes against whites are so brutal and they're thought out, these are not just occasions where a black had to defend themselves and killed a white person. They're planned attacks. They never make the national news and when the news speaks of the crimes, if the culprit is black, they never say it, but when the culprit is white and does a crime against a black it's always "A white male has assaulted 2 black males . . blah blah blah"
Not one of these instances did any white burn down a store, rob anyone or cause a mass riot and destroy their own towns.
This gentleman in your OP is doing nothing but dividing the races and he is race baiting. I don't care what you say or how you want to spin it. The crimes against whites are just as bad, even worse, but they never make the news. So quit it with your idea that blacks are the victims in all this.
originally posted by: MarlinGrace
a reply to: OptimusCrime
I have never been to Philly but I can tell you Los Angeles is about the same. There are many on ATS that talk about a race war, and I can't speak to other states and their cities but it So. Cal. it will be black and brown not black and white. In my 53 years there I to have many experiences that you speak of, now in a retirement area of Williamsburg VA. for 3 years things are vastly different. Different planet kind of different. I am surprised you haven't been attacked here yet for speaking the truth. Often times it doesn't matter what the truth is, some just don't want to hear it.
originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: ArchPlayer
What I saw was a populace completely desensitized by violence that it was just another day.
I didn't see that.
What I saw was a populace completely desensitized to B$.
Its hard to believe anything that you see or hear anymore with all the false advertising, gorrilla advertising, and numerous other commercially and not commercially motivated false marketing schemes to get attention.
originally posted by: ArchPlayer
originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: ArchPlayer
What I saw was a populace completely desensitized by violence that it was just another day.
I didn't see that.
What I saw was a populace completely desensitized to B$.
Its hard to believe anything that you see or hear anymore with all the false advertising, gorrilla advertising, and numerous other commercially and not commercially motivated false marketing schemes to get attention.
Refer to my post to Optimus. That is why I see it that way.