It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Ebola: "Don't Help" Campaign Promotes Pandemic Depopulation Strategy

page: 1
11
<<   2  3  4 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 08:28 AM
link   
If we don't stop the Ebola epidemic in West Africa, it WILL go pandemic. It WILL muate and evolve to become truly airborne, and incredibly easy to transmit. But it's not really airborne now, and it's not yet fully transmissible.

So why is there such a major fear-mongering campaign saying, "Any doctor who goes to West Africa to fight Ebola is going to die there," and things like that. It's Bushwa. Pure BS. But what's the game?

Well, it's about making the Pandemic Depopulation Strategy a reality. If this Ebola epidemic is left to percolate in West Africa, the virus will mutate and evolve - become easily transmissible, spread 'round the world - and wipe out half this planet's human population.

That's why. That's the plan. And the window for stopping the epidemic -and preventing a pandemic- is closing fast.

Doctors Without Borders (MSF) has been fighting Ebola for decades - and hasn't lost one of their people. Why? Probably because they're fully trained, take appropriate precautions and don't try to cut corners. Unfortunately, many other health workers in the region do NOT have the same level of training, and do NOT have access to the same protective equipment and resources - but try anyway. Big mistake.

Right now, Ebola is a problem for the world - and the world needs to respond. That means help.

This is the first Ebola epidemic - but it's not yet spreading in new ways. Just like other Ebola outbreaks, there are two modes of spread: health care, and burial practices.

The solution to this problem is to provide more and better healthcare - NOT ensure its removal!


Global health officials warn that window for bringing Ebola under control is closing fast

Leading international health officials said Tuesday that the Ebola epidemic in West Africa is accelerating and the window for getting it under control is closing.

“Six months into the worst Ebola epidemic in history, the world is losing the battle to contain it,” Joanne Liu, international president of medical charity Doctors Without Borders, said in a briefing at the United Nations. She faulted world leaders for failing to recognize the severity of the crisis sooner and said charities and West African governments alone do not have the capacity to stem the outbreak.

….“There is a window of opportunity to tamp this down, but that window is closing,” Frieden said. “We need action now to scale up, and we need to scale up to massive levels . . . I cannot overstate the need for an urgent response,” he said.

…. “[Doctors Without Borders] has been ringing alarm bells for months, but the response has been too late, too little.”

….Health officials said the outbreak can be contained and order restored in West Africa — but only if the international community acts quickly and cooperatively.

“We have no other option but to act urgently,” said Margaret Chan, director general of WHO. She called for increased help from governments and aid groups. “The whole world is responsible and accountable to bring the Ebola threat under control.

…….“Only by battling the epidemic at its roots can we stem it,” she said. “We cannot cut off the affected countries and hope this epidemic will simply burn out. To put out this fire, we must run into the burning building.”


World is ‘losing the battle’ against Ebola, warns aid group

Médecins Sans Frontières President Joanne Liu says her organization is completely overwhelmed.

MSF President Joanne Liu said her organization is completely overwhelmed as it treats Ebola patients in four West African countries. She called on countries with biological disaster response capacity to contribute civilian and military medical personnel.

“Six months into the worse Ebola epidemic in history, the world is losing the battle to contain it,”
Liu said at a United Nations forum on the outbreak. “Ebola treatment centres are reduced to places where people go to die alone....”


Ebola response lethally inadequate, says MSF

A global military intervention is needed to curb the largest ever Ebola outbreak, according to the medical charity Medecins Sans Frontieres.

In a damning criticism of world leaders, it says the global response has so far been "lethally inadequate".

The charity said countries were turning their back on West Africa and merely reducing the risk of Ebola arriving on their shores.

In a speech to the United Nations, the international president of MSF, Dr Joanne Liu, said repeated calls for help had been ignored.

She said: "Six months into the worst Ebola epidemic in history, the world is losing the battle to contain it. ….


edit on 3/9/14 by soficrow because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 08:33 AM
link   
a reply to: soficrow

You are right it isn't airborne and how do you know it will go airborne? .
I don't think it will get over here and I hope they control it over there.



posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 08:38 AM
link   
a reply to: boymonkey74

...I hope they control it over there.


"They" can't do it alone. "We" have to help.




PS. Yes, I know I'm right, and it's not airborne - I have been monitoring that particular aspect since the end of March. No one knows exactly how Ebola might evolve, but given that the virus can infect human lung cells it's a bit of a no-brainer to consider it just might go in that direction.










edit on 3/9/14 by soficrow because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 08:38 AM
link   
Apparently there are other more pressing issues that a spreading pandemic. I don't feel like listing any other pressing matters, but I imagine the politicians are more concerned about what they are doing during their vacations breaks.



posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 08:39 AM
link   
a reply to: soficrow


So why is there such a major fear-mongering campaign saying, "Any doctor who goes to West Africa to fight Ebola is going to die there," and things like that.

Just my take on that…

The resources there like suits and medical supplies are gone. Even if you brought your own environment suit you have to change it daily. What are you going to do with a dirty suit every morning? And what to do with the patients filling the tents you are working in?

I'm not sure we need to cry foul, Ebola is the foulest natural depopulation bomb I know.

Thats right, natural. its from there.

Doctors have an extreme desire to help and so are being directly warned.

Thats a bad sign.

Further: Even an airborne plague can't fly across whole oceans by itself. It need a host.



posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 08:45 AM
link   
a reply to: soficrow
S&F
And meanwhile, the world is fretting over this and that--all legitimate and fearful things, to be sure--when the
only true global threat is about to break loose and change life as we know it. As you stated, Doctors Without Borders have been banging the drums, and continued to bang them, even when few were listening. Just today, Obama spoke in Estonia and promised that the US and allies would "be there" to let freedom ring, so to speak. That's well and good...but IMHO that ring may be heard by a depleted population, not just in Africa but 'round the world.



posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 08:46 AM
link   
Hi , here is an article i read a few days ago

http://www.thehealthsite.com/news/ebola-virus-is-mutating-rapid ly-say-scientists/


A recent research related to the Ebola virus disease (EVD) states that the Ebola virus is rapidly mutating, making it difficult to diagnose and treat. A study conducted on the initial patients being infected with the virus in Sierra Leone revealed more than 400 genetic modifications of the Ebola virus, which might prove detrimental for the ongoing treatment measures but also to the vaccines that are under clinical trials for future treatment of the Ebola virus.



armakirais



posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 08:48 AM
link   
a reply to: intrptr
I also wonder if the present scarcity of Lactated Ringers in the US is meaningful, that the solution has been shipped and shipped to affected regions, and represents just a preview of the shortages to come?

Aren't airports filled with potential hosts?



posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 08:49 AM
link   
a reply to: armakirais

Wow…

Hundreds of mutations…

Maybe it will jump to migrating sea birds, or fish.

Those can cross whole oceans with ease.



posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 08:58 AM
link   
a reply to: drwill


Aren't airports filled with potential hosts?

Yep. I think the Bubonic plague made it to Europe originally by ship? Thats how that spread back then.

I Can imagine a scenario where a private pilot flies his sick family out of the Ebola Quarantine Zone under the radar.
edit on 3-9-2014 by intrptr because: redacted portion



posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 09:02 AM
link   

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: soficrow


So why is there such a major fear-mongering campaign saying, "Any doctor who goes to West Africa to fight Ebola is going to die there," and things like that.

....The resources there like suits and medical supplies are gone. .....And what to do with the patients filling the tents you are working in?

.....Ebola is the foulest natural depopulation bomb I know. ...Thats right, natural. its from there.

.....Further: Even an airborne plague can't fly across whole oceans by itself. It need a host.



Yes, there's a dearth of needed resources. Nations -and the global corporations getting rich there- need to get on board and start donating equipment AND trained personnel. That's why MSF is calling for a military response too.

Yes, Ebola is natural, but there's a good possibility this strain was tweaked - maybe accidentally with a failed vaccine. A US group has been researching viral hemorrhagic fevers in Sierra Leone and Nigeria since around 2003 - and their contracts specify "No Ethical Oversight." Shtuff happens. See What are US Biological Warfare Researchers Doing in the Ebola Zone?.

Do you honestly think it's possible to quarantine West Africa? Or are you suggesting quarantining Africa is a solution? fyi - Our planet is interconnected in myriad mysterious ways - and Ebola is a zoonotic disease. So besides the "grasshopper effect" spreading bacteria and viral particles around the world via wind and rain, once new Ebola strains start jumping back and forth between animals and people... well, most anything can happen. Like it could start infecting birds and fish. Other viruses have.





.



posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 09:03 AM
link   

originally posted by: drwill
a reply to: soficrow
S&F
And meanwhile, the world is fretting over this and that--all legitimate and fearful things, to be sure--when the
only true global threat is about to break loose and change life as we know it. As you stated, Doctors Without Borders have been banging the drums, and continued to bang them, even when few were listening. Just today, Obama spoke in Estonia and promised that the US and allies would "be there" to let freedom ring, so to speak. That's well and good...but IMHO that ring may be heard by a depleted population, not just in Africa but 'round the world.



Thanks. Well said.

S&



posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 09:04 AM
link   
I can't stop thinking of all the companies/people that own land over there that will profit from there no longer being natives in Africa.

Some of the things we have seen give the impression they aren't even feeding people that go seek treatment.



posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 09:06 AM
link   
a reply to: armakirais

RE: "Ebola virus is rapidly mutating, making it difficult to diagnose and treat."

This applies to new tests, treatments and in development. The tried-and-true methods of supportive treatment still work. That's what we need to rely on, and that's why West Africa needs everyone's help.



Thanks. S&



posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 09:14 AM
link   
a reply to: soficrow


I do agree with you .

armakirais



posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 09:14 AM
link   
a reply to: soficrow


That's why MSF is calling for a military response too.

'Bout time. They need to secure a zone, border it with a no mans land and patrol it with gun ships and mechanized infantry. No one goes in our out. Shoot to kill. Let the coming firestorm burn itself out inside there.

Ever read Stevien King's, "The Stand"?

Excellent bit about New York City blocking tunnels and bridges with military personnel armed with machine guns.

Containment failed, of course. By the time such drastic measures were implemented, it was too late. Just a novel, but he did his homework before writing it.



posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 09:20 AM
link   

originally posted by: soficrow
a reply to: boymonkey74

...I hope they control it over there.


"They" can't do it alone. "We" have to help.




PS. Yes, I know I'm right, and it's not airborne - I have been monitoring that particular aspect since the end of March. No one knows exactly how Ebola might evolve, but given that the virus can infect human lung cells it's a bit of a no-brainer to consider it just might go in that direction.











It has--in the Reston strain. Luckily that did not jump to humans though and just infected lab monkies. Although there is not a strain that infects humans that is airborne, the possibility that eventually there may be one is very real .



posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 09:27 AM
link   
a reply to: NavyDoc

I think the longer it is not contained and mutates it is only a matter of time before it will be airborne ! Themore hosts it has the more mutations !

armakirais



posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 09:30 AM
link   
a reply to: intrptr

It's way too late for quarantine. MSF is calling for military help for the manpower - yes, maybe some help isolating patients but more importantly, distributing food, medical supplies, escorting medical workers etc. .....

fyi - quarantine seldom works - and never works with zoonoses (animal borne diseases). The key to stopping this and other epidemics is in isolating infected patients, tracing their contacts and monitoring.



1) quarantine has been historically used to discriminate against minorities;
2) studies demonstrate that mass quarantine is ineffective;
3) a large scale quarantine would be difficult to implement.


An outbreak should meet the following three criteria for quarantine to be a useful measure of disease control:

* people likely to be incubating the infection must be efficiently and effectively identified;
* those people must comply with the conditions of quarantine; and
* the infectious disease in question must be transmissible in its presymptomatic or early symptomatic stages.

The use of quarantine in the Toronto (SARS) outbreak failed on all three counts.





Usually, only elected officials with no medical education recommend quarantine. Just because it sounds good.



ETA PS. This "coming firestorm" will NOT burn itself out - that's the mistaken assumption that rationalized the earlier cover-ups, and look where that got us. ....At best, new strains will just keep jumping back and forth between animals and the survivors - then when the colonial conquerors return for the spoils, look out. The new strain(s) will be unstoppable.








edit on 3/9/14 by soficrow because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 09:37 AM
link   
a reply to: NavyDoc

There's a "fine" distinction made between "aerosol" and "airborne" - and there's no doubt Zaire Ebola -not just Reston- can spread via aerosol droplets, as indicated in the MUCH more recent research cited in my thread, linked above. BUT - aerosol transmission is inefficient compared to the kind of airborne transmission that occurs with viruses like flu, for example.




ETA: So far. But who knows what kind of new mutations might emerge if we don't stop this now?
edit on 3/9/14 by soficrow because: (no reason given)




top topics



 
11
<<   2  3  4 >>

log in

join