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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: citizenx1
The difference? British military personnel are not, and have never been, a part of an organisation which PROMOTES and ADVISES its members to execute unarmed, shackled detainees, rape torture and kill women, string people up in the street, kill children with specific and clear intent to do just that...
I am not saying our lads are perfect, but they are subject to military law, and to a code of ethics. We know they have failed to keep to those covenants in the past, but their breakage of their oaths in that regard, is counter to the codes of military practice to which they are beholden, and can land them in serious hot water. ISIS fighters are told to be barbaric, to slit the throats of people on video, with the intention of publishing that video to the entire world and threatening the entire world with that same treatment.
Comparing the modern British Military to ISIS in terms of ethics, is like comparing Sir Gallahad to Charles Manson.
You're right, "our boys" aren't saints - many are just thugs in uniform who behave in just as despicable a way as those we're being told to hate right now.
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
This makes total sense.
I find it quite perplexing that people are surprised by this or are trying to call it out as some kind of political move.
We have over 500 British nationals who we know are going off to groups like ISIS to receive training. Guys like Jihad John. Now think about it if Jihad John and his other British Chums over in Iraq and Syria are prepared to cut of the head of a American what makes you think they won't us their UK citizenship get on the next BA Flight out of Karachi to London to go build some bombs and cause some mayhem, get a ticket up to sit about with those 72 virgin's.
Of course JTAC are going to recommend raising the threat level.
I sort of agree as an other comment also brought up the change in UK force logistics with a threat level upgrade but part of me thinks this would be exactly what you would do to show how we're Better Together, or in this case, all in it together
I do not trust the Gov of the UK they are and have been shown to be dishonest and if loss of leave and a few extra quid on defense budgets, I think if they could they would. don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting there is no threat just the timing of said threat.
Because the threat is very real.
originally posted by: ArchPlayer
Cameron trying to make that money, shut the Brits down into Martial Law ala Children of Men, and still emerge the victor while playing all sides against each other. Ol Iron Crotch Thatcher must be dancing a jig from hell!
Business as usual looks like and eerily reminiscent of Bush's color coded fear tactics daily.
originally posted by: TrueBrit
If their citizenship is removed in absentia, then they could be detained as foreign terror suspects, and that distinction would expand the law enforcement options available to the police and indeed make it possible for them to be tried as enemy combatants.