Now they can run us over too!!!

Can't create new threads in Possee Comitatus, so here ya go:

www.dailymail.co.uk... related-email.html

Zero charges for KILLING a cyclist while distracted driving.

I certainly hope that the family wins their wrongful death suit. Seriously. The fact that this can't be a punishable offense boggles my mind. I don't care if it was an email that said the whole town went up in flames. That was not this man's fault nor his family's. Now his family has to suffer their loss without complaint because the email obviously couldn't wait.

I'm just almost speechless really. There was no email important enough that this man's life was worth risking to look at IMO. NONE. PERIOD.

How many other people get important work related email and wait to read it so they don't kill somebody? Better yet, it's a law in most states that you can't look at your important email while driving, but obviously the police have a different set of rules (as usual). How many people would wind up in jail had they done the same thing? There would be no arguing this in court for anybody else.

This is wrong.

If this is true, this family deserves some sort of restitution for their loss and the whole incident should be looked at by the PD's to see that they should follow the rules of the road for safety like everyone else does. Their policy needs to change if for no other reason than it's the right thing to do.

What makes this any more ridiculous than a non police officer hitting and killing a bicyclist and not being charged? It happens all the time.

really....they have laws here that you have to have your phone cradled,if not you get fined...fined for driving and holding a phone etc....god forbid if you ran someone over whilst on the phone you would be done for murder...and these idiots get to drive around reading emails....and get away with running people over....wow....and i didn't think it was possible to think any less of law enforcement and lo and behold ......

a reply to: 8675309jenny

I thank God for cops.

We have in them, and many of their applicants, essentially, a psychological demographic, a composite, a list of persons who should be prohibited from bearing arms, since their brains are damaged from conditioning. These are the ones who the masters are relying on to exact their vengeance on their political enemies, who willingly signed up for the deed, and I shudder to think what will transpire once all the cops have cameras. I assume 'they' will be watching, from the get go, and orchestrating arrests, before you even leave the house, and giving their henchmen instructions on how to terrorize and terminate us, on a blow by blow, individualized basis. Yeah. The masters need the cops to stay on top. I think that much is obvious. These are the guys that will take down America, one closet at a time. Looking for flash drives, light bulbs, hate literature, whatever policy dictates.

I expect that the cops will increasingly be comprised of illegals, and finally, robots. They'll do anything, won't they. The lure of getting back at whitey, the land that was stolen etc…. The masters know just how to tilt the table so to get their way. Of course, it is labeled 'hate speech' to say anything about them, because their very essence is loathsome. There's no way to 'lovingly' depict the essence of our hijacked government. I've seen more snuff footage this year than I have in decades, and all of it at the hands of the 'good guys', the ones that you cannot win against. When dealing with 'criminals', at least you have a chance. Not so with cops. When you see cops, whether you are a professional criminal or ordinary Joe blow, you are at death's door. Their heads are not right, and this selection is by design.

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This happened in Jacksonville, Fl when I lived there. More than once.

If I recall correctly the cops didn't face any charges.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

In 2010 there were 4,000 people on bicycles hit and killed by motor vehicles, and as many as 70,000 injured to various degrees. The number of those drivers that were charged with anything more than a moving violation can be counted on one hand, and leave you most of your fingers left over.

What makes this case any more outrageous?

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

In 2010 there were 4,000 people on bicycles hit and killed by motor vehicles, and as many as 70,000 injured to various degrees. The number of those drivers that were charged with anything more than a moving violation can be counted on one hand, and leave you most of your fingers left over.

What makes this case any more outrageous?

if these events are happening this often i guess it does not make it any more outrageous...are you able to provide any info on these 4000 odd deaths by distracted drivers...or drivers in general.....?

a reply to: Zaphod58

well it would appear this happens here as well...and like you are saying not many people are getting into trouble...

www.theaustralian.com.au... c227f3ae8a01737fa04947

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Op-Ed in a biking paper and multiple stories of no charges.

www.bicyclepaper.com...

boston.cbslocal.com...

ktla.com...

Its not always easy to find distracted driver cases because they usually just say no charges, but bike groups all over the country are pushing for tighter laws, because if you kill a cyclist, and aren't blatantly drunk, you're going to get away with it. There are even cases where the driver left the scene after hitting a cyclist, and didn't even get cited. At least one driver killed a cyclist and got a verbal warning.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

In 2010 there were 4,000 people on bicycles hit and killed by motor vehicles, and as many as 70,000 injured to various degrees. The number of those drivers that were charged with anything more than a moving violation can be counted on one hand, and leave you most of your fingers left over.

What makes this case any more outrageous?

What makes this more outrageous is these are the people enforcing traffic laws. It's kind of like IRS employees not paying their taxes, while trying to collect yours. In California, they can talk on the phone while driving if it pertains to police business, but who enforces that?

This is just another example of people in positions of power, using their power to enforce their position on you.

a reply to: MarlinGrace

But that's just it, the outage is because he killed a cyclist and isn't facing charges. That's no different than others have faced. Yes he's supposed to be upholding the law, but the sad fact is that if you kill a cyclist, you're going to get away with it whether you are a police officer or not.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

In 2010 there were 4,000 people on bicycles hit and killed by motor vehicles, and as many as 70,000 injured to various degrees. The number of those drivers that were charged with anything more than a moving violation can be counted on one hand, and leave you most of your fingers left over.

What makes this case any more outrageous?

That's a total bulls#t statistic. People are prosecuted for vehicular manslaughter, negligent homicide, wrongful death and a slew of other charges. Even at a rate of 1%, I don't have 40 fingers, do you??


As for what makes it more outrageous??? Did you notice the black&white car with funny lights on top?

Just like I find it even more unacceptable when a cop blazes past me at 70mph in a 35. These are the people who should be EXAMPLES to the rest of us, not examples of what NOT to do!

a reply to: 8675309jenny

If you look into it, you will find that the number of drivers prosecuted is a tiny fraction of the number that hit cyclists, which was the point. Obviously it wasn't literal.

Yes I noticed the lights on top. I also noticed the fact that everyone is supposed to be outraged over this case, while totally ignoring the reality that cyclists are killed and ignored on a daily basis.

www.wnyc.org...

Last year, 21 cyclists died in vehicle crashes in New York City. But only two drivers were arrested and local district attorneys are hard pressed to cite convictions for cyclist deaths. Instead, they say, cyclists and their advocates don't understand how tough it is to call a traffic crash a crime.

2 in 21 makes it almost 10%, but I'm coming across a lot of articles that seem to indicate this is far worse than I ever imagined!!

Maybe the state only brings charges in FEW cases, but I bet there are civil cases in many more cases, or the family simply settles with the driver's insurance.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
What makes this any more ridiculous than a non police officer hitting and killing a bicyclist and not being charged? It happens all the time.

cops are held to a level Jesus couldn't touch.

we must all move on. don't dwell in the past.

a reply to: tsingtao

No, fix the damn problem. Make it a crime for ANYONE to kill a cyclist, instead of verbal warnings or citations for moving violations.

originally posted by: tsingtao

cops are held to a level Jesus couldn't touch.

we must all move on. don't dwell in the past.

OK Gandhi!


Accidents happen, I get it. I have pulled up to blind junctions and nearly taken out (an irresponsible) cyclist flying across the intersection without a care. (on the sidewalk I might add!) I've also gone over the hood of a car when I was a kid in the reverse situation.

The key factor here is TEXTING/TYPING while driving.

People get serious CRIMINAL charges for that routinely. Seems to me a police officer should be no different. Need to type?? Pull over or get a voice-to-text program.

I get business texts and emails all day, but if I'm in the car, I use voice-to-text exclusively. It's not perfect, but if it needs to be typo-free, then it waits until I'm not driving.


These people faced charges:

www.dailymail.co.uk...

JAILED:
www.dailymail.co.uk...

JAILED:
www.dailymail.co.uk...

JAILED:
www.adelaidenow.com.au... 2983dc90ea2684767af

JAILED:
www.westernmorningnews.co.uk...

JAILED:
bikinginla.com...

JAILED:
urbanmilwaukee.com...

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: tsingtao

No, fix the damn problem. Make it a crime for ANYONE to kill a cyclist, instead of verbal warnings or citations for moving violations.

I agree. I'm amazed this happens as often as it does. I truthfully had no clue. I live in the boondocks, so I rarely see a cyclist and I can't remember one ever being killed in my 37 years here.

Anyone distracted to the point of costing another their life should be charged. Cop or civilian. I stand by what I said though.... This is wrong. It's wrong that more is not being done to prevent this. It's wrong that it's not a priority for someone to try to and find a viable solution, whether it be stricter punishments/penalties or something else.

I realize accidents happen. That's why they are called accidents and not on purposes. But when a life is lost one would expect a little more than verbal warnings or moving violations in so many cases. All cases can not possibly be the cyclist's fault... With so many cases there would have to be quite a few that were caused because of distractions like texting or talking on your phone. That should be met with much stricter punishments than a moving violation or a verbal warning. It's almost like cyclists don't matter and taking out one or two is kind of acceptable. It shouldn't even appear that way truthfully.

The officer should lose the civil case and if he wasn't an officer.... he should still lose it IMO.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: tsingtao

No, fix the damn problem. Make it a crime for ANYONE to kill a cyclist, instead of verbal warnings or citations for moving violations.

was the f'ker on a path?

was he drunk?

too bad he was mushed.

my friend was crushed by a cement truck. his own GD fault!!