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Obama Wants New ISIS War Plan ASAP

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posted on Aug, 27 2014 @ 11:31 AM
Leading U.S. officials now believe that America has to expand its air war against ISIS into Syria, but nobody knows yet how we can do it… or what will happen next.

So Obama is going to bomb a sovereign country, Syria, to fight ISIL, without getting permission from that sovereign country.

So he won’t form an alliance with Syria, who has a fighting army on the ground, and wants to increase the aid of the terrorist ridden Free Syria Army rebel group fighting Assad?

If Obama does that he truly is the most ignorant president in history and aught to resign but first fire ALL his advisors.

Here he has a willing alliance partner in Syria to fight the greater enemy ISIL (the enemy of my enemy is my friend approach) and he refuses that for political correctness sake.

What this will do is increase the time of the war against ISIL and worst possibly draw ISIL and Syria themselves together (though unlikely).

Is he afraid of allying with Syria because of his own propaganda and lies against Assad?

President Obama wants to decide by the end of the week whether or not his war in Iraq against the Islamic State will expand to the group’s haven in eastern Syria. But nearly everything about the potential military campaign is still in flux, administration officials tell The Daily Beast—from the goals of the effort to the intelligence needed to carry it out.

One huge unanswered question is whether the president will order the attacks, or whether he will ultimately balk, as he did this time last year after preparing for limited strikes against the Bashar al-Assad regime. One administration official working on Syria policy said the purpose of the meetings Tuesday was “to convince one man, Barack Obama,” to follow through on the rhetoric and widen the aims of the war to include destroying ISIS in both Iraq and Syria. While Obama and his top officials have said they will need to address the threat of ISIS on both sides of the Iraq/Syria border, Obama has not said specifically what that means.

Absent direct guidance from the president, officials can’t even be sure what the objectives of airstrikes would be beyond retaliation against ISIS. Officials are also trying to game out how both ISIS and the Assad regime would react. The State Department on Tuesday denied reports it was considering coordinating on ISIS with the Assad regime.

The United States has conducted drone and airstrikes in Yemen, Pakistan, Iraq, Somalia, and Afghanistan. But in all of these cases the host government has requested them. This week, Syria’s foreign minister warned the United States not to enter Syrian air space.

Obama and his aids are idiots. There is historical precedent of allying with countries who are nominal enemies of the US such as WWII when it was Russia as a US ally who virtually won the Second World War.

Also there is the precedent of the Chinese communist allying with their sworn enemy Chang Kei Shek the leader of the Republic of China to fight the Japanese empire who had attacked China in the years leading up to the 2nd world war.

So all Obama has to do is swallow his pride and make Assad an ally against ISIL and tell the FSA, the leading “moderate” group fighting Assad to stand back.

The problem may be that Obama doesn’t have the ability and wisdom to be a real leader with the know how to form and lead such an alliance.

edit on 27-8-2014 by Willtell because: (no reason given)

posted on Aug, 27 2014 @ 11:47 AM
The same can be said about Russia and Iran! Why the hell don't we work WITH these countries instead of making enemies. Can you imagine that alliance? Iran, Russia, and the USA? We could much better control Iran through alliance and teamwork instead of alienating and making them our enemy. I'd much rather embrace Persians than Arabians and SA. We could strike some amazing resource deals with Russia and Iran.

posted on Aug, 27 2014 @ 11:50 AM
a reply to: Willtell

Iran ,Syria and Iraq with help from the Hezbollah can beat ISIS's ass as far as to another galexy,but the problem is the US want's to do it his way, long and boring...not to mention the credit involved in doing so which belongs to the mighty US for having their pit bull bite a whole lot of people and then one day putting it to sleep.

posted on Aug, 27 2014 @ 12:17 PM
a reply to: Willtell

If Obama does that he truly is the most ignorant president in history and aught to resign but first fire ALL his advisors.


At least his actions would lead us to believe that he is very ignorant.

Like he would ever resign or fire anyone. He hasn't fired anyone yet, has he?...... Ooops, I guess he has fired some high ranking military men.

posted on Aug, 27 2014 @ 02:16 PM
a reply to: Willtell

So I was just wondering why ISIS is not attacking Israel?

posted on Aug, 27 2014 @ 02:17 PM
First of all the US and other countries have recognized the Syrian National Coalition the legitimate representative of the Syrian people. They also hold Syrias seat in the Arab League. So legaly anything the US does in Syria it must do with their permission not Assads. The US and company do not recognize Assads authority over the Syrian people. Seperately the US also supports the Kurds in both Iraq and Syria. While the Kurds in Iraq will work with the Iraqi gov to a point to push ISIS out they are also powerful enough to keep what they have from Iraq. In Syria the Kurds have even less trust for Assad and will at best avoid fighting him for a time. The same for the Free Syrian Army who was winning until ISIS and Assad stopped fighting each other and instead double teamed the FSA.

And for those of you thinking the US should team up with Assad just because we have a common enemy let us keep in mind that was same dumb idea both the FSA and then Assad made with ISIS. And the same stupis mistake the US has made many times. That is what happens when you let short term thinking dominate long term thinking.

Also let us not forget that Assad has a history of releasing radicals for his own use. Thanks to Wiki links we know he let radicals out of prison to be trained and then sent to fight against the US in iraq. Some of ISIS leadership are former Syrian prisoners Assad released hoping they would go cause trouble for the rebels. Which they did and of course now they causing him the same trouble.

The best we do with Assad is ignore him for the moment while ISIS is dealt with and we arm and train the FSA and the Kurds and then we let them deal with Assad.

posted on Aug, 27 2014 @ 02:22 PM
Step 1 call out obama for behing too passive
Step 2 call out obama for behing too aggressive

Rinse and repeat daily

posted on Aug, 27 2014 @ 02:23 PM
The Kurds are worthy and trusted allies....I say we arm them to the teeth.....
The Shia factions are far and away the strongest players but are not really trying hard enough at present...holding back while the US does the airstrikes no doubt....
The longer we fight for them, the longer it will be before they fight for themselves.....

posted on Aug, 27 2014 @ 02:37 PM
a reply to: stirling
The Kurds have the most to fight for.... and against, I think.

They have had enemies in Turkey, Iraq, Iran and Syria.

posted on Aug, 27 2014 @ 02:46 PM
a reply to: Willtell

Here's a plan ..nuke 'um! nuke 'um all!

posted on Aug, 27 2014 @ 02:47 PM
a reply to: Willtell

I knew this was all a ploy, just a way to get into Syria and start bombing them. Shame, shame.

posted on Aug, 27 2014 @ 02:53 PM
a reply to: GreenMtnBoys

Israel and it's agents in US congress WILL NEVER let that happen. But it is what should be, I agree. But then again, why would the US/UK/Israel want to stop the very thing they created to destabilize the middle east? Syria and Iran are next. You look how these very people murdered Saddam Hussein and Gadhafi.

edit on 27-8-2014 by Fylgje because: (no reason given)

posted on Aug, 27 2014 @ 03:49 PM
here is my idea...

the USA should negotiate with Assad of striking ISIS only at the critical airbase in Tabqa, the HQ town of Aleppo, the HQ town of Raqqa and those sites only...

Completely level the cities & infrastructure at these 3 places...

after all ISIS already rid those areas of dissenters, minorities, different faiths other than Radical Jihad of ISIS... so there will be little 'collateral damage' to civilians, because all the people left alive at the airbase/Aleppo/Raqqa
are sympathizers, who are all for barbarous Jihad and will become fighters themselves if pressed into service

taking a Sodom-Gomorrah destruction approach will take away much of the leadership, the weaponry of the armaments ISIS took by conquest from both Syrian & Iraqi forces military Armory

And settle Assad's mind that the USA can be trusted for devastating air strikes on a broader vista of targets...
go one-by-one to each village-town, city the ISIS Took first/killled any opposition in those centers and moved on...
the psychological pressure will devistate the barbaric hordes on being the next target of complete Oblivion by USA air forces fire power

that's a plan in my mind

posted on Aug, 27 2014 @ 04:06 PM
a reply to: Fylgje

I agree with that. The US can’t help but do what is known as charity with harm.

They can never do anything good straight up. The price for doing in ISIL is further stress on Syria the most likely original reason for creating ISIS and the other rebel groups.

The Zionist infrastructure of this country will not forgive Assad as they never have forgiven any Arab leader who was ever against them.

What it will amount to is more US mischief and a longer bloodier war

Maybe it’s just what they want.

posted on Aug, 27 2014 @ 04:07 PM
The areas that were formerly Syria are no longer Syria, they are Islamic State. Unless he flies over Syrian controlled airspace what is the problem?

posted on Aug, 27 2014 @ 04:15 PM
a reply to: TinfoilTP

They are NOT formerly Syria, they are Syrian territories that have terrorists running around terrorizing the civilian population. Rather than saying "Hey, lets go bomb Assad", we would do better to take out the head of the beast - working with the nation of Syria and it's sovereign government as well as Iraq. Giving full consideration to the fact Syria has an entire army fighting ISIS as we speak, rather than seeking further destabilization of the region which is the sole reason ISIS exists with any consequence.

But that would make sense, and we can't seem to manage common sense anymore.
edit on 27-8-2014 by OpinionatedB because: (no reason given)

posted on Aug, 27 2014 @ 04:50 PM
its obvious what happening

false flag or at the very least provoking Syrian forces into attacking first .

posted on Aug, 27 2014 @ 07:00 PM
America, Pick your city...

posted on Aug, 27 2014 @ 07:43 PM
a reply to: DarknStormy

ME! Over here!

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