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originally posted by: InTheLight
originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: 00nunya00
Your statute doesn't meet what we are talking about. I'm not talking about drugging a woman and raping her. I'm not talking about a man raping an incapacitated(passed out) woman. I'm talking about a woman that had a damn good time. Probably more than she was used to and did things she later regrets. THAT is not rape. And WHEN does "no" come into play? After you've been grinding your butt against his junk for 20 minutes? Hey, when I turn a key in a car I expect it to start. What the hell would you expect?
I think you missed the key word 'incapacitated', therefore there can be no consent.
originally posted by: InTheLight
Date rape drugs are fast-acting with or without alcohol - keep informed.
www.womenshealth.gov...
originally posted by: intrepid
originally posted by: InTheLight
originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: 00nunya00
Your statute doesn't meet what we are talking about. I'm not talking about drugging a woman and raping her. I'm not talking about a man raping an incapacitated(passed out) woman. I'm talking about a woman that had a damn good time. Probably more than she was used to and did things she later regrets. THAT is not rape. And WHEN does "no" come into play? After you've been grinding your butt against his junk for 20 minutes? Hey, when I turn a key in a car I expect it to start. What the hell would you expect?
I think you missed the key word 'incapacitated', therefore there can be no consent.
Didn't miss it at all and I agree. Not only women. Anyone that would take advantage of an incapacitated individual. Sick.
originally posted by: Teeky
originally posted by: InTheLight
Date rape drugs are fast-acting with or without alcohol - keep informed.
www.womenshealth.gov...
Yeah I literally took a few sips from my drink and was wasted in seconds. That was my 1st drink that night. I just think women shouldn't drink around men. Even men you think you know well. The person who drugged me I knew for 2 years. People will only blame the victim even if they took a few sips... it's just the world we live in.
originally posted by: InTheLight
originally posted by: Teeky
originally posted by: InTheLight
Date rape drugs are fast-acting with or without alcohol - keep informed.
www.womenshealth.gov...
Yeah I literally took a few sips from my drink and was wasted in seconds. That was my 1st drink that night. I just think women shouldn't drink around men. Even men you think you know well. The person who drugged me I knew for 2 years. People will only blame the victim even if they took a few sips... it's just the world we live in.
In most of these situations women are most definitely on their guard, but really you would think you could trust someone you knew for two years. I am sorry you had to go through that. I don't allow victim blaming, as you can see, I find it disgusting and that's the world I live in.
originally posted by: intrepid
originally posted by: InTheLight
originally posted by: Teeky
originally posted by: InTheLight
Date rape drugs are fast-acting with or without alcohol - keep informed.
www.womenshealth.gov...
Yeah I literally took a few sips from my drink and was wasted in seconds. That was my 1st drink that night. I just think women shouldn't drink around men. Even men you think you know well. The person who drugged me I knew for 2 years. People will only blame the victim even if they took a few sips... it's just the world we live in.
In most of these situations women are most definitely on their guard, but really you would think you could trust someone you knew for two years. I am sorry you had to go through that. I don't allow victim blaming, as you can see, I find it disgusting and that's the world I live in.
Well if you knew my girls for 2 years that means you know me. They wanna go there? It's their funeral.
originally posted by: 00nunya00
originally posted by: intrepid
originally posted by: InTheLight
originally posted by: Teeky
originally posted by: InTheLight
Date rape drugs are fast-acting with or without alcohol - keep informed.
www.womenshealth.gov...
Yeah I literally took a few sips from my drink and was wasted in seconds. That was my 1st drink that night. I just think women shouldn't drink around men. Even men you think you know well. The person who drugged me I knew for 2 years. People will only blame the victim even if they took a few sips... it's just the world we live in.
In most of these situations women are most definitely on their guard, but really you would think you could trust someone you knew for two years. I am sorry you had to go through that. I don't allow victim blaming, as you can see, I find it disgusting and that's the world I live in.
Well if you knew my girls for 2 years that means you know me. They wanna go there? It's their funeral.
O_O
I just can't even. Condoning the action, then condoning the "funeral-inducing" response.
Scary. Why don't we all just abide by (and ENCOURAGE ADHERENCE TO) the law of "don't have sex with women who are too drunk to drive" and then we won't have to resort to "funerals"?
originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: 00nunya00
IDK what the problem is. Try to take advantage of my girls you're going to get hurt....badly.
If someone goes out and gets tanked of their own accord and then the inhibitions go out the window, no. That's not rape. Though I'm sure there's more than one dude sitting in jail over someone regretting the amount they drank.
originally posted by: SearchLightsInc
The problem that we have here is the "fair game" rule. If i drink so much that i end up passing out, that does not give you permission to put your d**k in me.
originally posted by: 00nunya00
Edit: but seriously, "grinding her butt against you"???? That does not mean she wants to have sex with you.
originally posted by: intrepid
originally posted by: SearchLightsInc
The problem that we have here is the "fair game" rule. If i drink so much that i end up passing out, that does not give you permission to put your d**k in me.
EXACTLY!!!!!!
Having a helluva time and then fingering a guy for rape when he was just following your(not you personally) lead isn't rape either.
originally posted by: theMediator
originally posted by: 00nunya00
Edit: but seriously, "grinding her butt against you"???? That does not mean she wants to have sex with you.
Well if this isn't sign, than what is a sign?
Butt grinding is a sign that means exactly that : I want to sleep with you.
If it isn't, no wonder some men go crazy and don't understand women.
It's like annoying a dog till he bites you and then get the dog killed.
I've slept with girls that I probably wouldn't had if I wasn't drunk, yet I would never say I was abused! It was my responsibility of getting intoxicated in the first place, the concequences are my own. Not always proud but I can't regret.