CIA Admits Using News To Manipulate the USA

Phage (and others) here are your "critical" thinkers in training,

3rd grade


And here is the finished product

High School


And even in College, whoo hoo!



I can just imagine one of these kids going on a job interview in the real world. Not. On the other hand I CAN imagine these kids showing up for their government assigned tasks for the day and following orders like good little drones. And this is Common Core and our new "improved" educational system that all schools must eventually follow if they want Fed funding, in action.

I can almost understand the younger kids learning like this but it should be fazed out and over by 3rd grade at the latest NOT just starting then imo.

I'm so grateful my daughter is 23 and an excellent critical thinker and does not take BS from anyone. She'd be getting home-schooled (for as long as they continue to allow it anyway) if she was younger.

The other issue is "No Child Left Behind". Umm hello there ARE people out there better than you and all our "touchy feely oh I'm so awesome kids" that we have this generation (give or take) are going to be good little worker bees and follow orders for that praise they have been conditioned to expect and receive. They expect everything handed to them as a right not as something they worked for and earned by being better, smarter, faster, whatever.

Can't read? No problem, you'll be a perfect janitor, trash hauler or *insert menial job here*. Can't do math? It's ok we have a job for you too! You get the idea.

If we seriously fantasize that nothing is wrong in our world, not just the USA, then we are the problem, not the Powers That Be because they can only take away what freedoms and experiences and life that we allow them to. If parents started actually, you know, parenting, there would be a lot less of this crap imho.


Lil

originally posted by: WhiteAlice

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: glend
If the trend in the level of commentary on ATS is over the past several years is any indication, I would have to agree.

I third the statement with the amendment of "the level of commentary in general as an indicator. Lessons in critical thinking has never been very prevalent in the educational system here. One of my professors asked one of my classes how many of us had ever had any form of critical thinking training and only myself and another raised our hands out of a class size of around 40.

Is critical thinking training before or after common sense class?

As for THEN vs NOW which Phage mentioned, I wonder how Phages elders looked at him when he was a youngling?
Are one or two who don't critically think relevant to whole generations?
I think not.

I'm sure If you went back to the 60,'s 70's, 80's I could find many numptys more than I could now,
we now hold ourselves to higher standard due to the resources we now have to educate.

Talking about Critical thinking, are there more religious people now or before?

a reply to: Lilroanie

That is scary! I didn't understand your sarcasm until after I watched the videos and the whole time I was saying quietly to myself - WTF!

I learned how to think critically in 3 ways: First one was playing with lego's, next were all math, video games, puzzles, books and taking things apart putting them back together. You really don't understand something until you take it apart. . .
The last is a bit harder to explain. . . In college I took a summer physics course to speed things up but I was warned it was a bad idea, almost everyone failed. In that class our professor would come in, talk fast while writing on the board for 5 minutes about the assignment and lab. Then leave and not come back until the following class. He did this the entire semester, all the equipment was in the room but we really didn't know what we were doing or even why half the time. I saw many other students crying, screaming, dropping out and even protesting to the dean. Well I stuck with it and out of 26 students I was 1 of 9 that finished the class.
On the last day when we were going to review the final exam, our professor came in and told us we all passed, there was no final exam. He explained any monkey can be taught how to do a physics assignment or lab. He went on to say, "Who taught Einstein how to do the things he did? Who taught Wernher von Braun, Tesla or Edison to try the things they tried? They all taught themselves!", and for those of us that stayed and attempted to do the assignments, that was his final gift to us, not some ridiculous grade that now means nothing.
That day was a pivotal moment in my life, nothing else was beyond my reach ever again!

a reply to: AnteBellum

Einstein was rarely in college. He had his to be wife doing his work, and collecting notes for him. She also did the bulk of the math to prove his theorems. He would be considered a "slacker" in many people's eyes. His work was more internal than thrown out on a chalkboard, pencil, and paper.

I'm pretty sure he would have deuced.

a reply to: AnteBellum

There is manipulation here too but never never to the level of what i have seen in the US. Its like the whole us continent is some sort of a truman show. Pretty scary if you think about it. The dome in this case is invisible but follows you wherever you go on earth.

a reply to: AnteBellum

So where is Skeptic Overlord to talk about all the evil manipulation and propaganda by state run media centers outside of the US that are so ghastly compared to the journalistic integrity of the US and western media? Operation Mockingbird was reported on in the 60's and 70's so the information has been available for some time. It's a shame that children and young adults are educating their parents on what happened during their parents lifetime and not the other way around. Trust in older generations has been eroded as more and more information is being released about the mindless acceptance of nonsense that our parents, grand parents and great grand parents have been recycling for over a century. We have become the drones that do the bidding and we resent people that don't reflect that acceptance.

Shame is often used by the weak (easily seen in how many people approach one another on message boards) followed by insults (a favorite of the message board strongmen) but always lacking in content. Words seem to affect adults more in this time period then in previous ages and thanks to the US STATE RUN MEDIA, it's acceptable to be hurt by them now. Turn off the TV's and turn on your minds.

a reply to: Taggart

Critical thinking hasn't been in the educational system for decades. When that question was asked of how many had a formal critical thinking class, what it was referencing was an actual critical thinking class that typically took place for a small percentage of students (around 1-3%) at the third grade. Interestingly enough, teaching critical thinking has only really kicked in for the larger public under Common Core, particularly with literacy.

What had been driven through the bulk of students has been learning by textbook rote. Unlike the videos offered up top, it involves more than just a textbook and certainly isn't a call and return like in the above videos linked by Lilroanie. That's not critical thinking. A critical thinking arrangement is actually looking at multiple sources of often disparate opinions and basically identifying the inherent biases, word usage, structure, methods of persuasion and more.

This class, albeit high schoolers, is representative of a critical thinking oriented class:



There's actually a substantial difference between what is taught and how it is taught between more advanced classes and regular from grade 3 and up as a process that is solidified into habit through persistent use. The key difference between rote learning and CT learning is that the first is learning generalizations and the second, discernment. As far as religion of a measure of critical thinking goes, that wouldn't be a very accurate measure of CT as it is more acceptable these days (or perhaps even a fad) to hold contrary beliefs.

a reply to: Lilroanie

Actually, no, at least the first video is teaching by rote. That's not CT training. I actually sat in on my son's 3rd grade class titled "Critical Thinking". It was actually more inquiry based using the Socratic method. Iow, not a simple recitation of rote learned "fact" but asking questions about a statement to either unravel or support a "fact". The most fun thing those kids did was to build their own board games, which was basically a form of Game Theory.

That Whole Brain teaching stuff is retarded. Whole brain my ***. Do NOT like and that is most definitely NOT critical thinking.

Socratic method in teaching:

a reply to: AnteBellum

"Using news"? More like creating news, and twisting real events to their advantage! :Using" seems like such a tame term, considering what all they can do. And, of course, they are doing it now. I won't list any specific cases, but savvy ATS members will be familiar with some.

It's not just news,either; it's all through the schools. First two days of school in a district close to here, kids spent on "anti-bullying" lectures. Two DAYS. Same thing, over and over; kids reported being bored out of their skulls. The gun mentality you mention is very valid on this. When I was a kid, toy guns looked pretty realistic much of the time, Cops & Robbers, or Cowboys and Indians, were commonly played games, and no one thought shooting a burglar was bad (except maybe the burglar, if he lived...). These days, kids are being conditioned to think guns are "bad", and even conditioned to expect the police to show up for any little infraction.

a reply to: WhiteAlice

You seem well versed in the educational program. My daughter is about to enter 2nd grade and quite honestly I was going to continue supplementing her education with my own means and methods. But I am an architect, not an educator. Maybe if you have time you could slip me some more info on what's in or out these days. I'll start by looking into your posted material, thank you.

a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

That bully program is alive an well here in NJ also, I understand your frustration.
I'm still exploring this topic but I've noticed similarities between how local and world news outlets present topics just as I've noticed the differences. Media channels seem to operate on a whole other level though, like CNN. The dedicated news stations follow a system that is similar in fashion yet completely independant to what they are broadcasting. The EDITORIAL process is where the real magic begins, what goes in front, how long, what is shown. They can take a story about almost anything and then spin it to fill the gaps in their programing. Websites favor this technique also and can use some pretty ingenious methods to moving stories up and down for visibility based on marketability.

I don't know why or how, other then I'm getting good at it, but when I watch these shows now and put myself in the EDITORIAL position, I seem to be able to see the future(cold sarcasm) for I can guess what's going to be shown next. It's like FEAR, optimism, commercialism, POLITICAL FIGHT, fear, more optimism, fear, WEATHER, fear, commercialism, HAPPY ENDING see you next time!
I feel like throwing a brick at the tv. . .

a reply to: WhiteAlice

Ok wow my sarcasm meter must be way off. I thought "critical" in quotes and stating my daughter (if she was this age) would be in home schooling and "No Child Left Behind" and PCism BS was enough to make clear I think this new method of "teaching" is a joke but I guess not lol.

There are still great teachers out there but I bet not for long. Our schools suck so bad there aren't words enough to describe my loathing of them, all because the Feds say so too /shiver

Lil

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The writing has been on the wall, for quite some time.

As i was briefly reading some of the comments, i realized we just don't get how EXTENSIVE the brainwashing goes. The thing is, most of the brainwashing has been passed down to us, from our parents. Our parents taught us about Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny. They told us we had to go to school to get an education, so that we could get a decent job and have a happy life. But that wasn't the truth. That's what they were fed, by their parents. Education this, and education that. But really, WHAT ARE THEY TEACHING???

World History? Yeah. That will be useful in every day life.
Geography? Most people never leave the place they were born in.
Nouns, pronouns, and adjectives? Can't remember the last time i used that.
X + Y = Z? Uuuuhm ok. Haven't used that since high school.

That's what our kids learn, all day, everyday. Problem is, they will never use anything they learned in school; that were mandatory, in order to graduate. Why do we send our kids to school, 7 hours a day, 5 days a week, to learn NOTHING? Here's the kicker, we make them to that for 1/4 of their lives. Living in the matrix. That's why.

a reply to: ImDaMan

I see your point but I also can't buy in to the extreme fact everything presented in school is taught to drive some nefarious message home. I am curious about the world and planet I live and most of the foundation materials I learned in high school was bridge information for future expansion in college. Mathematics, which include everything from geometry to probability and statistics, is a universal language. Everything can be converted to formulas and those that know how to do so have another way to understand the world around them.

Now with that said, if you wanted to tell me the educational system in this country is used to find the best and brightest for future recruitment, then I could entertain the idea that there is a more devious plan around it all. Those in power want to stay in power and in order to do that you must have access to the latest, best 'thinkers' available. With certain test, college scholarships and grants it's an easy task to take a smart kid and turn them into a bleeding edge scientist for our country or cause. Makes you think. . .

a reply to: Lilroanie

lol, no your sarcasm meter is fine. It's mine that is broken. Autistic and sarcasm in text is one of those things that goes whizzing right on by me. My apologies.

Agreed. What's being presented in those videos is really a joke. Watching the high schooler version was a horror show and a half. What the schools are doing to implement Common Core is going to be dependent on the state and local governments. That's the trick with the schools here in the US. There's a federalized Dept. of Education but the schools themselves, outside of mandates (levels of national expectation), how they get there and much of their funding is state and local based from tax revenues and gifts. I was actually pretty shocked to uncover that little tidbit. It also means that schools in different areas are going to be doing things differently depending on who the leadership is and etc.

For instance, in my area, I'm still trying to figure out what the hell enrichment is for my youngest as her humanities class also involves language arts as does enrichment. What the hell is it? I do not know after a year of questions and considering that this is my daughter's education on the line, the ambiguity of subject is not cool in the slightest.

Sorry again about the misunderstanding.

a reply to: AnteBellum

Only the past few decades worth of education but not what's at present. Still trying to figure out just how my area is implementing Common Core. I did ask a lot of questions at conference time but was only able to talk to 3 out of 4 of my daughter's teachers. The one teacher I didn't get to talk with? Enrichment (mentioned that in Lil's post). How my daughter's school is seeming to do things is by dividing the grades by brain type. One class set is for "creative learners". The other is for regular. The creative learner class seems to be an amped up on steroids version of the regular class types. Not only were they learning more intense and deeper aspects of the same subject matters but they were introduced to concepts of self-improvement in the 8 forms of intelligence. Kind of major for 11 and 12 year olds and boy was I surprised when my daughter came home asking about that.

Many of the teachers that I did manage to speak with stated that Common Core lacked clarity so I think that's part of the ambiguity of it. I'm still trying to figure out what is being done now myself.

It was interesting. Back in the late 90's/early 2000's, when I was still 19 or 20 years old, I hadn't really read much actual conspiracy information nor did I even know about much of it.

However, for whatever reason I sensed intuitively watching the news and TV that we were being manipulated and it was basically propaganda in different forms. I can remember frantically telling my family that in front of a TV and it starting an argument.

Later on, simply through extensive global travel and research I realized that the news we see in the mainstream media is very often extremely biased and shows exactly a view of the world necessary for us citizens to support Western foreign policy. Notice that when it comes to domestic issues, there is a seeming divide between liberal and conservative outlets (such as MSNBC versus FOX). However, when it comes to foreign policy, intervention, enemies of the state, war, etc, suddenly all of the news outlets mostly close rank. In other countries people are often shown a very different view of things.

For example, it is common knowledge in parts of South Asia such as India and Pakistan that Osama Bin Laden in interviews in newspapers both took responsibility for the 1990's embassy bombings AND denied emphatically any involvement in 911, stating that targeting innocent civilians is against Islam and his beliefs. He didn't have a problem with targeting military or government stations (embassies).

I can remember asking this kinda yogi/hippy Indian guy in the Himalayas "What do you think about the whole Al Queda terrorist issue and US foreign policy?" All he said was, "You mean Al-CIAda?"

originally posted by: AnteBellum
I wanted to add 'No Kidding' at the end of the title, but I don't like long titles either. And it's wrong anyway because it should include the NSA, DHS, DoD, NATO and all the other vast acronyms we have now.

This is an old video from 1975 that is another knot in the string to an never ending study of the corruption of the media. It is a tool used for propaganda, commercialism and manipulation through fear and other reaction triggering devices in us, at a subconscious level(sometimes even conscious ones).

I know it's an old video, but I think that makes a strong point in itself. If they were doing this in 1975 just imagine what is going on now! With the influx of information going in and coming out, one may not even realize the brainwashing that's occurring just through simple exposure to it all.

Stop the corral sheep!


And just to add this in, even though it's not part of the main topic, but runs parallel to it:
How do you change the laws surrounding gun control in our country? (take them away from honest law abiding citizens)
Well imagine if someone were to concoct a scheme similar in practice to church recruitment methods. "Get 'em while they're young" comes to mind. When I was in school saying the word 'gun' was not a bad thing, but not any more. Playing cops and robbers was not bad either, but that has been trended out also now. Even so much as pointing your finger at someone, can get you expelled these days!
On a subconscious and even conscious level that is CONDITIONING. What makes it even worse is the fact that these are young children being conditioned to believe guns are bad, when in truth sick people are the villains. Guess what they will most likely grow up believing?
Well how did it all get that way. Columbine, Virginia Tech, Sandy Hook - these things are not new events, but what is new is the coverage they received due to mass media. And because of this coverage - this FEAR, movements, demonstrations, laws became easy targets for a more nefarious agenda. An agenda that is yet to reveal itself. . .

Here is a wiki link on USA school shooting from 1760 to today:
Wiki on US School Shootings

You be the judge of it. . . AB

I am a certified teacher, and one with 6 years experience, and a masters in it.

Most people by far are not qualified to home school their kids, even those that are professional educators. People have this fallacious view that unlike accounting or medicine, err'body can just be a great educator and that it takes no training. Also, it is fallacious to think that any of us know how to teach effectively all grade levels. Even veteran teaches are not qualified to do so.

Also, in my experience a majority of home-schoolers are not on the higher end of education, but the opposite. There are exceptions, but often they choose to homeschool based on extreme religious beliefs or anti-government paranoia. Many of them don't have much education themselves. It's like the blind leading the blind.

Finally, there is no substitute for the interactions with diverse people one gets from engaging in many larger educational contexts across the years. This exposure, just like being well-travelled, helps one with critical thinking, not the other way around. Many people have limited, racist, bigoted, or just ignorant beliefs precisely because they have limited exposure to other people, other regions, other cultures, other religions, and data and research on these subjects.

As to the rest, the common core was created partly because the US is falling behind other developed countries, who HAVE a common core and more centralized system. It's true. I've worked in education across the world. There is far too much variation in learning outcomes in the US, fact, and this was due to extreme variations in the quality of instruction and what the standards were. The common core is based on and aligned with what a student needs to know going into the 21st century. That includes technology, science, and so on.

Can you please describe to me your credentials that qualify you to be an expert on education, curriculum, and the huge body of research already extant on this subject? If not, I invite you and challenge you to consider if there is a hint of arrogance in your view that you know better.

originally posted by: Lilroanie
Phage (and others) here are your "critical" thinkers in training,

3rd grade

And here is the finished product

High School

And even in College, whoo hoo!

I can just imagine one of these kids going on a job interview in the real world. Not. On the other hand I CAN imagine these kids showing up for their government assigned tasks for the day and following orders like good little drones. And this is Common Core and our new "improved" educational system that all schools must eventually follow if they want Fed funding, in action.

I can almost understand the younger kids learning like this but it should be fazed out and over by 3rd grade at the latest NOT just starting then imo.

I'm so grateful my daughter is 23 and an excellent critical thinker and does not take BS from anyone. She'd be getting home-schooled (for as long as they continue to allow it anyway) if she was younger.

The other issue is "No Child Left Behind". Umm hello there ARE people out there better than you and all our "touchy feely oh I'm so awesome kids" that we have this generation (give or take) are going to be good little worker bees and follow orders for that praise they have been conditioned to expect and receive. They expect everything handed to them as a right not as something they worked for and earned by being better, smarter, faster, whatever.

Can't read? No problem, you'll be a perfect janitor, trash hauler or *insert menial job here*. Can't do math? It's ok we have a job for you too! You get the idea.

If we seriously fantasize that nothing is wrong in our world, not just the USA, then we are the problem, not the Powers That Be because they can only take away what freedoms and experiences and life that we allow them to. If parents started actually, you know, parenting, there would be a lot less of this crap imho.

Lil